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doppelgangers

Whoops! Sorry, Quarl. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't mess with my article on Earth Age'

If you don't understand it, talk to me, don't move it around and don't redirect it. Thank you.ati3414

I didn't "mess" with "your" article. Please read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, and then comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/How to calculate Earth's Age instead of on my talk page. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 17:22Z

Overdue

Ok, you are very overdue for this. Thanks for your hard work —This user has left wikipedia 19:49 2006-02-01

Awesome, I saw you'd accepted. Dont forget to:

  1. Change the time on your RfA page to indicate the current time.
  2. Edit this page and add the following text above the most recent nomination (replacing USERNAME with your name):
  3. {{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/USERNAME}} ----

Thanks for the nomination! I was so busy reading the various GRFA pages :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 23:53Z

William S. Nicolai

You tagged this as POV but did not discuss why. Rmhermen 00:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the POV tag. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-02 01:05Z

Quote characters

The following quote character display correct:

1. / 2. / 4. / 8. / 9.

P.S. It was nothing major, but I was just a bit curious. Dr Debug (Talk) 12:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

You'll have trouble to get this working w/ many people. Internet Explorer 7 Does NOT display 4, 8, & 9. ~ Cheers —This user has left wikipedia 17:00 2006-02-02
Okay, thanks both for the information. I think « » (U+00AB U+00BB left-pointing double angle quotation mark) might be widely supported, as it is the French quote character. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:40Z

Entries on WP:AIAV

No, sorry, I didn't see more then two when I got there. I banned the users and then edited the page to remove the two entries that I saw. I must have cleared the others without noticing that others had been added since I first went there. My apologies. Oberiko 22:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at User_talk:Oberiko#WP:AIAV.

Date Can & other scritps

I was playing out w/ the Date Canonicalization script, it's great. You didnt give out a summary for those. R you want to write some sort of miniguide to your work on your admin page? (I was thinking you were gonna make it straight through w/ no negative votes, but they're both weak and they might change their mind) —This user has left wikipedia 00:42 2006-02-03

There are a number of reasons I haven't written a HOWTO guide for using my user scripts: (1) The current popular and easiest method of hot-linking is insecure. (2) I am planning a system that will make user scripts easy to install and use, in a secure fashion, with automatic dependencies and updates and such, by non-technical people. (3) The scripts are currently beta quality and I had meant to test them more before advertising them - for example, location_canonicalize.js and date_canonicalize.js seem to be working great, but I wrote them very recently, so I want to test it on more articles before recommending new users use it. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:33Z
As for "Main activity in December and January", I wouldn't argue against that. That is why I had declined the first nomination; I meant to wait 3 months (the apparent de-facto minimum time criterion) after December. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 03:37Z

User:Quarl/unwatch.js

  1. I was including your unwatch script from a known good revision
  2. It stopped working. Turns out you moved the page and redirects get read as "#REDIRECT..." instead of the javascript at the output
  3. In the meantime, I tried using the latest version. I added:
winc('User:Quarl/watchlist.js');
winc('User:Quarl/wikipage.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/util.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/wikiwatch.js'); 
winc('User:Quarl/diffsince.js');

but I get the error:

Error: wikiPage is not defined
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/watchlist.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 46

any idea why? — Omegatron 05:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the disruption. You need to add the wikipage.js include before the watchlist.js include. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-04 05:07Z
Works now. Thanks. — Omegatron 05:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a problem with shortening "diff since" to just "since"? It's a great addition, by the way. — Omegatron 13:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Done. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-05 03:35Z
Thanks! — Omegatron 15:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Peruvianllama

Okay, this is perhaps a bit overdue, but thank-you for your support in my recent RfA! I passed with a final vote count consensus of (82/1/0), which was a lot of support that I really appreciate. I'll try to live up to the expectations; and on that note, if there's ever something I do wrong (or don't do right), please spit in my general direction. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit) 05:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Admin nomination

Thanks for your considered comments concerning my nomination. The sheer volume and hysterical nastiness of the comments from the opposing editors - almost all of whom I don't know from a bar of soap - and vice versa - makes it clear that the nomination will fail, so no further action on my part is warranted. --Gene_poole 11:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

"Location canonicalization"

I have reverted this edit, as it is completely useless. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:30, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 05:33Z
I'm not sure what you mean by that, as you seem to have a script whose sole purpose is making edits like that. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I prefer "San Francisco, California" to "San Francisco, California", though already-linked articles shouldn't be linked, so the next city in California wouldn't link to California. I have been reverted before on another article so you're not the only person that doesn't like it. It's pointless to argue so let's just leave it at Thanks for telling me politely. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 05:50Z
I queried one of User:Adrian's such edits, and he passed the buck to you. So, here's my post on his talk page (I'll watch your talk page for anyr esponse):
I noticed that, under this rubric, you made some changes to John McCain. Abbreviating "United States" as "USA" seems wrong to me. The MoS calls for "U.S." as the preferred abbreviation. (Actually, in the context of the McCain infobox, I think it would be more natural to identify his office as "U.S. Senator" and omit any other reference to the country.) You also changed Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. My own preference is for the former style. It's easier for the editor to create, so we're more likely to stay consistent, and in most contexts there's little chance that a reader would want to click through to the article about the state just because one city in the state is mentioned in passing. Nevertheless, I couldn't find anything on this point in the MoS. Is there a provision that supports calling this format "canonical"?
Thanks for your consideration. JamesMLane t c 10:28, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
FWIW, while the man may have a point over the MoS issue, I can't see a reason not to wikilink the state. It's helpful to a reader, and ultimately Wikipedia *is* for the reader, not the ease of the editor. Besides, if every page is normalized to that format, we'll be consistent anyway, no? :) Adrian Lamo ·· 10:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't feel strongly about "United States" vs "USA" -- I had assumed "USA" was the best, but I see now MOS says "United States". As for the [[City, State|City]], [[State]] stuff, obviously my opinion is it should be that way since I wrote a script to automate it :) "It's harder to type [[City, State|City]], [[State]]" is not a very convincing argument to me, but there are stronger arguments for and against the format. "Canonical" is only my own word for it; notice it doesn't say "per MOS". I don't mind changing the word "canonical" used in edit summaries if it implies some kind of policy. This was brought up by SPUI on WP:AN/I with all but one admin agreeing with me. I then moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Location Format, which see. One person disagreed and I got tired of arguing with him so I guess the status quo is no consensus (every man for himself). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-12 13:13Z
Complying with the MoS will reduce the ability of others to complain, but apart from that, I don't see any problems. Adrian Lamo ·· 04:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Certification of voting machines (AfD discussion)

I think it is an important subject. Should it be deleted, because it seems that way. I've made a copy at [1]. I haven't made a seperate topic of it yet. Even though that wiki is not active anymore since it was never integrated in the messageboard, I have a personal assurance by Skinner, the owner, that all information will be kept, so your work will not be lost and will still be in google ;) The downside is that hardly anybody will edit it, but it can't be vandalized either :) Dr Debug (Talk) 07:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. Are you saying "it seems Certification of voting machines will be deleted"? It doesn't seem like that to me. Usually when a bunch of people vote "delete, no context" and then someone comes along, adds, context to the article, and votes "keep, per rewritten/added context", the prior "no context" votes can be disregarded. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-07 07:24Z

WP:RFA/Joke137

Hi Quarl, thanks for voting in my (successful) RfA. All the voters who voted neutral or oppose had the same criticism – lack of involvement in the Wikipedia namespace. This is nice, because it is a weakness that I can endeavor to fix. Although I don't think I have the disposition or diligence to be actively involved with, say, VfD, I've recently started to participate in the Featured Article discussions and will start participating in some policy discussions now that I am starting to grasp the way the project runs. –Joke 16:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Cantthinkofagoodname

Hi, just wanted to thank you for voting on my RFA, which went through with a count of (58/0/1), far better than I'd expected. I intend to take things slowly and start using the extra abilities gradually, but if there's anything I can do just leave a message. Cheers, CTOAGN (talk) 13:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Iadipaoligize (AfD discussion)

My article "Iadipaoligize" was not a hoax. I would prefer you check on it before deleting it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mbuc91 (talk • contribs).

Discussion at User talk:Mbuc91.

User:Quarl/auto_summary.js

Here's a script you might find useful in your auto summary thing:

/* When the summary box is clicked, select only the part *after* the section title/place the cursor after the auto summary */

addOnloadHook(function () {
    if (document.getElementById('wpSummary')) {
        summary = document.getElementById('wpSummary');
        function selectSummary() {
            section = summary.value.match(/(?:\/\*(?:.*)\*\/)?\s*(?:«(?:.*)»)? ?/);
            if (section) {
                sectlen = section[0].length;
                end = summary.textLength;
                summary.setSelectionRange(sectlen,end);
            }
        }
       summary.onclick = selectSummary;
    }
});

If you improve on it, let me know. For some reason, onfocus, onselect, and the like don't do anything for me. I guess I don't understand how they work. Ideally, it would select when you click or focus using the tab key. With onclick it only works when you click, and is kind of annoying to work with since it keeps doing it every time you try to highlight something different. — Omegatron 01:00, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Great addition! I used a setTimeout(function, 0) to be able to call setSelectionRange inside the 'focus' event handler. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 03:45Z
Oh, good. Thanks! — Omegatron 17:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, using winc() slows down page load a lot. Do you have the same problem? Lupin suggested including all the scripts as templates so that it kept them in cache and only had to load one file, but it didn't work smoothly when I tried it. — Omegatron 01:03, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is slow, but because they're all cached, it only happens the first time. For editing user scripts themselves, I have User:Quarl/userscript.js which auto-refreshes the single js page after I save it (control-shift-R is slow because it would reload every page). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 03:48Z
Ah, I see.
You've seen WikiProject User scripts, right? — Omegatron 17:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes. I prefer to work on scripts in my own userspace. Linking to them or copying is certainly fine, I just didn't want to toot my own horn. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 04:45Z
Ok. It's just about visibility and collaboration for me. Your page is already linked, though, I see. :-) — Omegatron 15:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Superm401

I want to sincerely thank you for voting on my adminship nomination. Whenever I mess up, please let me know. I want to learn from my mistakes so they don't become patterns. Superm401 - Talk 05:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Bbatsell

Thank you for your comments on my request for adminship. It ultimately succeeded with votes of 52/1/2, but I wish to take any constructive comments into account and to ultimately improve my contributions to Wikipedia. Should you have any questions, comments, complaints, or requests at any point in the future, please do not hesitate to let me know on my talk page or via e-mail.
—bbatsell ¿? 05:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Testb

Template:Testb has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:testb. Thank you. -- Avi 06:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Test4a

Template:Test4a has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:test4a. Thank you. -- Avi 06:57, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Cyberservices (AfD discussion), Philippine Cyberservices Corridor (AfD discussion)

Pls visit again AfD Cyberservices, and see an article created by the same "user" - AfD Philippine Cyberservices Corridor. Pls encourage more well known users to make a vote. I have a suspicion that there will be a flood of posts from anons, and new users in those two AfDs. Thanks. --Noypi380 11:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey there. I appreciate your input, and the tag, but I made a comment. I hope I could change your mind. Thanks. --Noypi380 07:06, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Template talk:Test

Implementing your idea: Please look here [2] -- Avi 15:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Your JS tools (thanks)

Thank you very much for creating and modifying the very handy as well as time-saving functions at Quarl/monobook.

—-- That Guy, From That Show! (talk) 2006-02-08 16:05Z
You're welcome. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:11Z

Congratulations!

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia 22:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Quarl, well deserved! -- Avi 22:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:27Z

Hurrah! Congrats and welcome to the "mop squad" :-) - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 22:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey, congrats :) Never doubted it'd happen. Adrian Lamo ·· 04:07, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I offer this 'late' congrats message to you. I hope you will enjoy your new set of responsibilities as an admin. Keep up the good work and do NOT get stressed up over vandals! Siva1979Talk to me 16:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I know I'm late, but congratulations!! Mushroom (Talk) 11:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

TestTemplatesNotice remark

Hi. I wonder if you could comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject user warnings, in the section about {{TestTemplatesNotice}}. I had noticed that you put that template in {{summary}}, and I am wondering if it is indeed necessary to have it there. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Four Points

WRT Four Points (I ended up on your talk page because I have Fullerton, CA on my watchlist and I was curious about your edits): the complainer was looking for Five Points (Manhattan) so was pretty much completely in the wrong. The only Four Points I've heard of is the hotel chain, too. --ErinOConnor

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info! :) —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-08 22:53Z

monobook.js

Hello Quarl, I took the liberty of "borrowing" your nice function winc(s) from your monobook.js a while back with a view to cleaning up my own monobook. I also added some of your useful scripts from your sub pages and they all work beautifully except for User:Quarl/toolbox_edit_count.js. For some reason, the link just does not show up on my toolbox, although it did for a spell while I was rebuilding the monobook.js. I just wondered if the script itself is still functioning or if I have implemented something incorrectly? Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 08:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Cactus.man, can you see if there are any Javascript errors? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 08:33Z

Hi Quarl, thanks for replying. I am running Firefox 1.5.0.1 and there are a gazillion javascript errors reported in the console. Most seem to be related to extensions or Greasemonkey scripts. The only one I can see that appears to be relevant is:

Error: [JavaScript Error: "illegal character" {file: "http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/summary.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s" line: 1 column: 0 source: "#REDIRECT [[User:Quarl/auto summary.js]]"}]
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quarl/summary.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 1
Source Code:
#REDIRECT [[User:Quarl/auto summary.js]]

My javascript understanding is rudimentary at best and I belong to the copy, paste, offer a human sacrifice and pray to the Gods school of programming. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. --Cactus.man ✍ 12:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Update: I have fixed the redirect in my monobook.js to point directly at User:Quarl/auto_summary.js. Still no editcount link in the toolbox :( There are now no javascript errors that relate to any of your scripts. HTH. --Cactus.man ✍ 12:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, the redirect was the problem (I shouldn't have renamed so liberally back then). Also, if there are any javascript errors, even if they are not from my scripts, anything after the error won't work. If you could identify which script it is from (if you are using Firefox, just click on the link in the Javascript console), then you could remove that one or move the edit count script above it. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-12 13:01Z
I have too many javascript errors being generated by extensions at the moment to fix this properly. I have tried positioning your edit count script at the head of the queue, but to no effect. The strange thing is that the extension errors don't seem to affect the functioning of any of the other Wikipedia scripts. Oh well, never mind, it's not really that big a deal so I can live without it :( Thanks for your help nonetheless. --Cactus.man ✍ 15:21, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Test2b

Template:Test2b has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Test2b. Thank you. -- Avi 14:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

smartsubmit.js

Am I right that it strips math and images, or is there another script I need to include for those to work? Also it would be nice if it moved the page focus to show the preview or diff. Currently, the page stays looking at the edit box while the preview changes, but then you have to scroll up to see it. If there's no page-scrolling function built-in, you could generate an anchor tag at the beginning of the preview and then navigate to it?

If I don't use smartsubmit, the auto diff summary is erased after the preview loads. Couldn't the diff function be programmed to not touch the auto diff summary it generated on a previous incarnation of a page?

Thanks for all of these tools, they're really useful. :-) — Omegatron 15:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any problems with images - are you saying images don't appear after you preview?
Uhhhh... Yes, the other day, anyway. Now it seems to work fine. Maybe there was high server load and they turned off images and TeX rendering and I mistook it as a problem with smartsubmit... Nevermind. — Omegatron 22:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I added code so it now automatically focuses on the preview/diff after it is available.
The reason I wrote smartsubmit was exactly for the diff summary issue :) Yes, autodiff could avoid touching the summary, but I often keep editing after preview/diff, in which case the edit summary because useless without smartsubmit. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-09 22:47Z
I am including my en wikipedia script on all the other wikis (commons, wikibooks, etc.) Everything seems to work well except on en.wikisource.org, smartsubmit gives the error "Smart Submit: Couldn't get wikiPreview from downloaded document!" — Omegatron 22:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I (finally) tracked down the problem to http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning which contains <br> rather than <br /> tags, causing the page to be unparsable as XML. I have contacted someone who will hopefully help fix it. Quarl (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay, the problem is fixed now. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-16 08:21Z
Hooray! Thanks. — Omegatron 15:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I found another similar problem on Commons with mismatched tags in the edittools page. Since any admin can edit these special pages, and therefore we can't rely on the page always validating, is it possible to make it degrade to the regular preview/diff display when the async XML doesn't work? — Omegatron 19:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Good idea, done, and I see you've already identified the specific problem on Commons. For now, by default it will still warn you that it couldn't do the async submit first. The new version is at http://wikipedia.quarl.org/scripts/smartsubmit.js . —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-21 03:06Z
I'm trying to migrate the scripts I was using over to the new site. For some reason I won't accept just including the whole thing, and am torturing myself trying to figure out how to pick and choose just the scripts I want. :-) I've added this to my monobook.js:
/* This function is used to include individual scripts from Quarl's pages in mine. */

function qinc(s) {
    document.write('<scr' + 'ipt type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + 'http://wikipedia.quarl.org/scripts/' + s
             + '.js"></scr' 
             + 'ipt>');
}

/* All kinds of scripts from [[User:Quarl]] */

qinc('module');
qinc('util');
qinc('wikiwidget');
qinc('wikins');
qinc('wikipage');
qinc('wikiedit');
qinc('diff');
qinc('shortcuts');
qinc('diffsince');
qinc('wikiwatch');
qinc('watchlist');
qinc('watchbutton');
qinc('autofocus');
qinc('autosummary');
qinc('smartsubmit');
qinc('newmessages');
qinc('tab_since');

Shockingly, it mostly works, but a few things don't work right yet. The only ones I've noticed not working are the async watchlist button and the diff since button. Do you know why?

If you're going to rename things, can you name them all consistently? tab_since should become tabsince, in other words. — Omegatron 04:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I've renamed tab_diff and tab_since. The scripts now don't add any widgets by default; you need to add the following: $watchbutton.widgetLoad(); $tabsince.widgetLoad();
What makes it slightly more complicated is that you can't reference those directly from your monobook.js because tabsince.js isn't loaded until after monobook.js, so you have to include User:Omegatron/usermain.js and put them in there, or alternatively put them in an onload hook. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-25 06:49Z

Participant alert regarding Wikiproject on Advertising

The Wikiproject No Ads, created as a backlash against the Answers.com deal, has served an important function in providing a space for users to express their disagreement with the Foundation proposal. While the current controversies about userboxes raise questions about political and social advocacy on Wikipedia, there should be greater flexibility regarding advocacy about Wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace. Reported and linked by Slashdot and other press sources as a unique and spontaneous occurence in Wikipedia history, it has apparently had some impact as, despite being scheduled to begin in January, not a peep has been heard about the trial and proposed sponsored link since the deal's controversial announcement months ago. Currently, however, there is an attempt to delete the project or move it off Wikipedia altogether. Since the Foundation has provided no additional information and has not attempted to answer the specific questions that participants in the project raised, it is unclear if the Answers.com deal has been abandoned or simply delayed. Until the situation becomes more clear, I believe the group should still have a place in the Wikipedia namespace. Sincerely, Tfine80 00:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

bot edits

Yes, actually I noticed that, and it's because of the similar format used, but I've increased the complexity of the regex, and that should not happen again. Sorry. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 00:24, Feb. 11, 2006

RFM#age of earth

See Wikipedia:Requests for mediation#External link regarding the age of the Earth. --Smack (talk) 07:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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regex

My bot is written in python, not javascript. I figured I could probably, if I thought hard enough, reprogram my bot to ignore any <!-- foo {{Bar}} etc. --> comments and not attempt to subst them, which would eventually result in counterproductive results like <!-- foo {{subst:subst:subst:Bar}} etc. --> in subsequent runs of the bot. However, I also determined that having the {{curlies}} around it isn't that useful inside an html comment because you can't click on it like you can with a {{tl}} link. Also, to do this would be to assume that everybody else's subst-bots work the same way.

Additionally, my bot has been changing already-substed instances of <!-- foo {{Bar}} etc. --> to <!-- foo Template:Bar etc. -->. For deliberate references to another template within the messages, I have been replacing <nowiki>{{Foo}}</nowiki> with {&#123;Foo}} (read this as displayed on screen, not the wiki-code, lol) to avoid inadvertant attempts to subst these. I assume your comment means you saw me editing the text of some templates, and I think this is the best solution. If you have any other ideas, let me know. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 15:14, Feb. 14, 2006

LOPA and IEC 61511

There are a few safety standards that use common themes. I created hyperlinked stubs for IEC 61508/61511 and was about to create one for LOPA. I'm not too sure that gathering them together will make the subject more readable once I fill them out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ML5 (talk • contribs).

Actually, now that I see all the other stubs, I would rather they all be merged into one article. Perhaps Safety standards ? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-14 19:22Z

Imao blog (AfD discussion)

Can I get you to reconsider your vote on the AfD on Imao blog? Per WP:WEB There are more factors to notability than Alexa rank. The article has been edited to include verifiable evidence of notabliity. FlyingSpaceMonkey 17:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at User talk:FlyingSpaceMonkey.

WP:RFA/Water Bottle

Hello Quarl, thank you for you support in my RfA. I was promoted with a final count of 48/1/0! If you see me making any mistakes, let me know ASAP. -- WB 02:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Merging, I don't know how to make all the links switch over

If we merge we need to point the old links to the new merged larger article. John wesley 14:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Which article? Quarl (talk) 03:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

User talk:62.101.126.208

please note that this is a shared ip (at least 100+ users), so it happens that somebody wanders around wikipedia and posts sh*t, while somebody else does small and legit updates. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.101.126.208 (talk • contribs).

Okay, I've marked your talk page as such. Quarl (talk) 03:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

WikiSource

I don't think the redirects you set up at your user pages at wikisource are working as you intended. I find I have to use either [[w:User:NoSeptember]] or [[wikipedia:User:NoSeptember]] instead of [[en:User:NoSeptember]] to get my link to work properly. I assume en: would get you from a foreign language wikisource to English wikisource. NoSeptember talk 09:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Thanks! —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-16 11:08Z

congratulations

congratulations (adminship) --Ugur Basak 12:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome and congrats.:) PJM 12:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Well done. enochlau (talk) 12:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats from me, too - have fun with the admin superpowers. If you need any help, just drop me a line :) Grutness...wha? 12:25, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on your adminship. Also, thanks for the more personal thank you with my name than what most people send which is simply a copy and paste template. Good luck! ¡Dustimagic! (T/C)
Congrats! You deserve this. Good luck on your new responsibilities. Siva1979Talk to me 14:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome and congratulations. --Dakota ~ ° 14:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I did vote oppose, but I'm sure you'll be a fine admin anyways. Good luck and see you around the wiki :-) Alhutch 15:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
  • You'll be fine! Congrats! --a.n.o.n.y.m t 17:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

City of Heroes pages

On my admin vote you made a comment about the two pages needing improvement. Mind letting me know what you had in mind? - TexasAndroid 12:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at User talk:TexasAndroid.

My signature

Hi Quarl,

Thanks for your message. Hopefully this is an improvement... Djr_xi was an email address so it was an obvious username, but I generally assume people like to know my real name - hence Deano. Anyway, I've changed it to just DJR. Thanks for contacting me! DJR (Talk) 13:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at User talk:Djr xi.

Flex your new admin mucles at Calvin and Hobbes

Hi, Quarl. Can you please look here and help us out? Talk:Calvin_and_Hobbes#Footnotes? Thanks, -- Avi 15:33, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks like Woohookitty already helped out. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-16 18:43Z

Congratulations

Congratulations on being made an admin. Or should I say, condolences? :) User:Zoe|(talk) 00:16, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! I am very happy for you. Be a shining example and apply for bureaucratship after 10 to 12 months. You will always have my support! Good luck. (my second congrats!) Siva1979Talk to me 14:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Congrats, I was happy to support you. --kingboyk 12:55, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Xaosflux

Thank you!
Hello Quarl, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! It passed with a final count of 98/2/0. If there is anything I can do to help you, please leave me a message on my talk page! -- xaosflux Talk

Tigris.org

I quickly tagged this article for speedy deletion, but then took it down in favor of talking this through with you. How is this website notable in the context of an encyclopedia article? Bobby1011 09:12, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

It is a notable open source development hosting service. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-17 10:15Z

WP:RFA/Elf-friend

Thank you very much for your support during my recent Admin election, I appreciate the trust that you have put in me. Please contact me if you have any questions, comments or concerns regarding my work as an admin.

Kind Regards, Elf-friend 09:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/SoothingR

Thank you!
Hi Quarl/Archive 2006-02. On behalf of my right eye, I'd like to thank you for giving me your support on my recent RfA. It ended with a final tally of (73/2/2) and therefore I have been installed as an administrator now, and I'm ready to serve Wikipedians all over the world with my newly acquired mop and bucket. If you have any questions, do not hestitate to forward them to my talkpage. Once again, thanks for your support. Image:Weather rain.pngSoothingR 21:03, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:welcome

Hi Quarl. If you have time, could you please visit Template talk:Welcome, and explain the reasoning for your change in the welcome template? It is not clear from the edit summary, and I would also like some discussion on the matter. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:00, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Martyman

Thanks for your vote
My request for adminship passed with a final result of 78/2/0. Hopefully I will live up to everyone's expectations. Please ask if I can ever help out with anything in the future.
Martyman - 09:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

diff.js

Hi Quarl, you might want to have a look at User:Cacycle/diff (User:Cacycle/diff.js), an implementation of the diff algorithm similar to yours. Due to recursive diffing is able to resolve more changes, especially additions and deletions of spaces. Moreover, it detects and marks block moves. It is currently only used by my editor extension User:Cacycle/editor (which, BTW, has matured during the last weeks - just have a look at the feature list). Cacycle 10:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks very impressive. I am in the process of unifying my and others' various scripts into a master toolkit, you're welcome to join. I will take a look at your diff implementation when I have time. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-21 10:23Z

WP:RFA/UkPaolo

Thank you for your support of my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA ultimately succeeded with a final consensus of 52/1/0, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any comments regarding my editing, or I can help you at any point in the future, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!
└UkPaolo/talk┐ 11:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Prod

"Take this personally" is a regional figure of speech, and a euphemistic idiom to boot. It's confusing to people whose command of English is concrete or marginal. The link to WP:NPA was meant to make the meaning clearer; also, there's no compelling reason not to link to it, it's an important page that everyone should read at least once.

I'm not dead set on the link, but the idiomatic English should go. There's already enough misunderstanding built into the deletion process. -ikkyu2 (talk) 02:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:prod.

CBC-MAC article

Hi Quarl. I just left a message for you at Talk:CBC-MAC.

--David Göthberg 07:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/Kmf164

Thank you for supporting me in my successful RFA. The admin tools will definitely be useful for dealing with vandalism more swiftly. Please drop a note on my talk page, should you have questions about any of my actions. --Aude (talk | contribs) 02:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFA/MatthewUND

Thanks for voting!
Although this is a bit late in coming, I want to thank you for voting (no matter what your vote was) in my recent request for adminship. You might be aware that it did not pass due to a lack of consensus. The final tally was 21/9/10. I think I will try again this spring or summer after I have gained a bit more experience and met a few more fellow editors. Thanks again!

--MatthewUND(talk) 05:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Boombooom

ok just a newbie here so please bear with me... i am currently compiling some articles on the late 90's uk club collective boombooom, i believe information relating to their work belongs on the wikkipedia as an musicological and historical reference to the trends and early history of post hacienda manchester club life. pleas let me know what else i can include to make it accepted —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ricopop (talk • contribs).

Discussion at Talk:Boombooom.

Request by author for Speedy delete

Hello, Quarl.

Can you please take care of this for me? Wikipedians by alma mater:City University of New York

Thanks -- Avi 21:40, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Quarl -- Avi 02:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-25 06:50Z

WP:RFA/ESkog

With apologies for the impersonal AWB-ness of the message... Thanks for your support on my recent request for adminship. It passed at 91/1/0, and I hope I can continue to deserve the community's trust. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you, and if I make a mistake be sure to tell me. My talk page is always open. (ESkog)(Talk) 02:21, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

autodiff

If I use the word "ed" in an edit summary, it replaces it with "editing". It should only replace the shortcuts if they're the only word present. — Omegatron 15:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

The new version disables shortcuts by default, and also removes the "ed" shortcut. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-25 06:50Z

WP:RFA/Cohesion

I just wanted to say thank you for voting for my RFA, of course if you ever need a hand, let me know :) - cohesion★talk 23:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Missed redirect

Thanks, forgot this time about links to those pages (actually only the first page). Redirects work as well. Will fix the redirects. --KimvdLinde 05:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Prakash Puram (AfD discussion)

I've AFDed Prakash Puram -- see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prakash Puram. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-26 11:00Z

Thanks, I voted to keep, either the presidential council part wasn't on there when I deleted it or i just missed it, I saw the person redo the page and saw the new(?) presidential part and thought someone else should look at it :) - cohesion★talk 17:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

newmessages.js

When you press the diff or diff since links, it should asynchronously access the regular talk page, too, so that Mediawiki registers that you read your messages. — Omegatron 04:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Excellent idea. Done. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-27 05:33Z
Wow, you're quick. :-)
I'm not seeing unwatch links in my watchlist, even when I installed COMBINED.js. Is there something else I have to add to get them? — Omegatron 05:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Might be browser incompatibilities. Are you using IE? If you refresh to the current version, and you look at the debug log, you should see "(watchlist.js) annotating watchlist with unwatch & since links". —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-27 05:58Z
Firefox 1.5.0.1 I'll try again. — Omegatron 06:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Still not there, with
document.write('<style type="text/css">@import "http://wikipedia.quarl.org/scripts/COMBINED.css";</style>');
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="http://wikipedia.quarl.org/scripts/COMBINED.js"></script>');
What do you mean by "debug log"? I removed all my other scripts and blanked my css, too, and it's still not there, so not conflicting with anything. —— Omegatron 2006-02-27 06:20Z
You have to call $watchlist.widgetLoad(). You can do this in an onload hook or in a separate user script (it won't work in your monobook.js because it won't be defined yet). You have to do call enable() or widgetLoad() for most modules; I'm trying to make it more easily customizable. See http://wikipedia.quarl.org/scripts/usermain.js for an example (the depend lines aren't strictly necessary). —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-27 09:07Z
Aha. Thank you. — Omegatron 14:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Me? an admin?

Hi,
I don't know whether or not I'm ready. What exactly does adminship entail? I've placed your talk page on my watchlist, so you may reply right here, to keep the discussion all in one place. --Smack (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

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