Talk:QF 2 pounder naval gun

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Pedantry I know, but the correct form should be "mounting mark X" or "gun mark Y" rather than "mark Z mounting". Emoscopes 17:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was move to 2-pounder gun. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 11:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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This article is about a nickname!!!! It should be moved to the anti-aircraft artillery page.

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I'd agree in principle about renaming it, although this weapon is so universally known as the "pom pom" that I'm not sure entirely what it would achieve. In the interest of representing user's views, I have initiated the correct procedure for suggesting the article be renamed on behalf of User:Phillipsbourg. I think an article named "2_pounder_gun" would be better, with pom-pom redirecting to that page, although this may just be sliptting hairs. Emoscopes Talk 00:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
How about making pompom a disambig page with links articles titled about each individual weapon ? Might be hard to scrape together enough to justify an article on the 37 mm maxim gun. If you want to see a badly titled article checkout 88 mm gun. Move, disambig or do nothing. Any of the three is fine with me. Megapixie 00:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Diambiguation page I think. The term is common enough, but until I read this article I wasn't aware that it applied to various different weapons. Wiki-Ed 10:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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A seperate References sections with a little more sourcing and citing and this would be a B Class article on its way to a Good Article.--Oldwildbill 13:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was move to QF 2 pounder naval gun. —Mets501 (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

2-pounder gunQF 2 pounder naval gun – The current title is ambiguous over exactly what 2 pounder gun this is; the naval gun or the Ordnance QF 2 pounder, theoretically it covers both. The official designation for this weapon was QF 2 pounder, I feel the new title reflets this, and specifically refers to this weapon. I also feel that the use of the hyphen is innapropriate as it should only be used when referring to the gun in the adjective sense, not the noun. The official designation also lacks it. Emoscopes Talk 11:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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  • Oppose it should be at pompom gun. IT definitely should not be at 2-pounder though. IIRC, some horse artillery were also 2-pounders. 132.205.44.134 03:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support the 2-pounder gun link can then disambiguate between naval and land 2 pounders. GraemeLeggett 08:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. Disambiguation makes sense here. Recury 17:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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re; Oppose it should be at pompom gun. IT definitely should not be at 2-pounder though. IIRC, some horse artillery were also 2-pounders. 132.205.44.134 03:54, 19 September 2006

It should not be at pom pom, that was a nickname and the page was previously moved from there for that reason. Additionally, there were a number of weapons known by that name. Secondly, yes, there were some older horse artillery pieces rated 2 pounder, which is exactly why the page should be moved to the title QF 2 pounder naval gun to disambiguate it from those and the Ordnance QF 2 pounder. Are you sure you aren't responding to the older move from "pom pom" to "2-pounder gun" ? Emoscopes Talk 11:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] "Pom-pom" gun?

Why was it called a "pom-pom"? I'm guessing that the term isn't actually related to Pom-pom. —wwoods 06:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

From the first paragraph;
The name came from the sound that the original models were reported to make when firing.
Although I don't have a reference for this, it seems to be widely agreed upon and I've never heard any contrary explanation. Emoscopes Talk 10:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh. Somehow I missed that. —wwoods 18:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)