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[edit] Graham Hancock
I can't help noticing that Graham Hancock is listed as a reference here. Can someone point out which bits come from that source, so they can be checked with due care? His academic reputation is hardly good... - Mustafaa 20:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I am the creator of this wikipage about the Qemant, see Here for my final version.
I created this page because I was interrested in these people and the ancient form of Judaism, which I had read about in Graham Hancock's book the Sign and The Seal. So if you check my original version, all info there comes from that book. You will see that it is quite accurate. also you must note that this was his first book to by widely published (before, he was a reporter). His later books contain much more fiction and mumbo-jumbo, I agree on that, but TS&TS really is a great book. Patrick1982 21:43, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- Um...I'm concerned by
yourthe assertion that the religion of the Qemant is an "ancient form of Judaism", which should be reflected by my edits. There is no indication that their religion is an ancient form of Judaism, at least not that I've been able to ascertain, although it is variously claimed that it is a primitivistic form of Judaism. This is a POV claim, asserting simultaneously that animism and paganism are "primitive", and that Judaism developed out of animism and paganism rather than as a result of a revelation. While it is clear even from the historical testimony of Judaism's sacred writings, that the earliest adherents of what we regard as the most ancient forms of "Judaism" were, prior to their "conversion", pagans or pantheists or, arguably, animists, there is little evidence that Judaism actually evolved from such belief systems. Tomer TALK 08:54, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)- This is not my POV, but that of the American scholar Frederic C. Gamst. I see no reason to doubt the view of a scholar, unless another scholar brings a new theory forward with credible evidence. I think I can obtain I copy of his book in 1 or 2 weeks, so I could then perhaps provide more info.There have been little books written on the Qemant people, and it must be noted that there is only a small percentage of their people still practising this old religion, the main part of the population has been converted to christianity.
- Fine. I modified my comment. It wasn't meant to be an attack on you, but rather a comment about the fact that the assertion is inherently not written in accordance with Wikipedia:NPOV, no matter who makes it. Tomer TALK 17:50, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
- This is not my POV, but that of the American scholar Frederic C. Gamst. I see no reason to doubt the view of a scholar, unless another scholar brings a new theory forward with credible evidence. I think I can obtain I copy of his book in 1 or 2 weeks, so I could then perhaps provide more info.There have been little books written on the Qemant people, and it must be noted that there is only a small percentage of their people still practising this old religion, the main part of the population has been converted to christianity.
- Um...I'm concerned by
[edit] Population
Mustafaa gives a estimated population of 172,000 people. However, I cannot find any refferences to this number on the internet. Actually most websites give the number 20,000 - 25,000 people. This estimate would make more sence to me. I will however not change the article at this moment, untill someone can provide more info. Patrick1982 21:43, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- My reference is a book, The Kemantney Language. However, the figure is confirmed by Ethnologue, Humboldt-Kosmos, and Dr. David Appleyard, and derives ultimately from the national census. - Mustafaa 21:59, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Name
Is Qemant correct? The Encyclopaedia Aethiopica has their article at Kəmant (can also be transliterated as Kimānt), and I'm inclined to believe them. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 04:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
