Talk:Pura Cup

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When did the states adopt their nicknames? Here in England we generally ignore them and stick with the plain state names, so I'm not sure when the change was made; I can't quite see "Southern Redbacks" playing in the 1890s! Loganberry (Talk) 23:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Winners table

Would it be a good thing to make the table like this:

SEASON WINNER
1989-90 New South Wales
1990-91 Victoria
1991-92 Western Australia
1992-93 New South Wales
1993-94 New South Wales
1994-95 Queensland
1995-96 South Australia
1996-97 Queensland
1997-98 Western Australia
1998-99 Western Australia
1999-00 Queensland
2000-01 Queensland
2001-02 Queensland
2002-03 New South Wales
2003-04 Victoria
2004-05 New South Wales

Maybe the colours needed to be adjusted a bit. JPD 10:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks good. why not? It'd also be good to show the runner up team in the table. -- Ian ≡ talk 10:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Yep, looks fine to me. I'd suggest using the one-day colours, but if those are the one-day colours then I see no problem. Runners-up might be a bit hard to dig up, though. Sam Vimes 10:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
You'd have to go through either cricketarchive or Cricinfo (the latter would probably be marginally better). Having done that for List of Australian intercolonial cricket matches recently, I'm not putting my hand up! -- Ian ≡ talk 13:37, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
It would be good (and relatively straighforward) to list runners-up for at least the seasons that had finals. I'll get around to that at some point, if no-one else does first. The one-day uniforms change from year to year, but (thankfully) mainly use the traditional colours. I firstly tried to use the normal colours like this:
New South Wales Victoria Western Australia Queensland South Australia Tasmania
but they're not so easy to read, so I softened Vic and Qld. It might be easier on the eyes to soften all of them a bit:
New South Wales Victoria Western Australia Queensland South Australia Tasmania
What do you think? JPD (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

or...

New South Wales Victoria Western Australia Queensland South Australia Tasmania

Ian ≡ talk 00:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I like Ian's version - the colours are good (although I'd like to revise my original NSW colour to 66CCFF), and I can read it, but it is a bit garish, which some people can't handle. I notice that similar tables using political party colours tend to use even softer colours. I had a quick look for any similar sporting tables, but the closest I could find was at Premier League, which has the table without colour and a timeline next to it. I have mixed feelings about that approach. JPD (talk) 18:51, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I have put a version of the table, using the colour scheme I currently like best at User:JPD/Pura Cup. It includes the runners-up since 1982/3, when the Sheffield Shield first had a final to determine the winner. Please comment! JPD (talk) 17:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

It is a wee bit garish, especially with the two colours next to each other. Hm. *ponders* Sam Vimes 17:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

That was my feeling. I've added an even softer version to that page, but I'm still not sure that having the colour of the runner up is ever going to be a good idea. JPD (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I like the second (softer) one as you've got it, and with the runner up coloured. If you're only going to have the winner listed, you may be better using Wiki EasyTimelines (see [1] for examples), like in Premier League. This on the other hand gives another layer of info. Good work. -- Ian ≡ talk 01:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
As I alluded earlier, I'm not sure I like the layout at Premier League, as it seems a bit redundant. On the other hand, the table including the runner's up is growing on me. I'll go ahead and add the second version to the page. I can soften the colours even more, if anyone thinks that's needed. Do you think we should bother digging up runners up for years with no finals, or should only losing finallists be noted as runners-up? JPD (talk) 10:35, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
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