Talk:Pumpkin pie

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pumpkin pie is delicious

I suck cock. Ralphael 23:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

As do I. Bkkbrad 20:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Uhm, is this original research or do you have citations? :-) Ronabop 01:04, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Look, I don't know where you came from, or what your agenda is, but your clear "distaste" for "slaughter" of this vile weed indicates a clear POV in this matter. I suggest you abstain from this debate, for, oh, 20 -30 seconds.
You vile, evil, Pumpkin killing bastard. What next, pimping pumpkin for crack?
Beating pumpkin so you can get to "pie"? Ronabop 13:12, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I find your remarks typical of the Pumpkin Pie Cabal that exists here on Wikipedia to further the extreme aims of Pumpkinism. You are without doubt a sockpuppet of User:PUMPKIN PIES ARE YOUR FRIENDS (CABAL) THAT EXISTS ON WIKIPEDIA TO FURTHER THE EXTREME AIMS OF PUMPKINISM. If you persist in stalking me I will be forced to file a AfD, RfC and RfA on you. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

A 19th C. writer (I can't trace the source of the quotation, sorry) said that Boiled Pumkin has no discernable flavor of it's own, and the only things making the pie edible were a liberal use of butter, sugar, and spices. He suggested it would be more truthful to call it a "Butter and Cinnamon Pie" Saxophobia 04:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origins

American colonists sliced off pumpkin tops; removed seeds and filled the insides with milk, spices and honey. This was baked in hot ashes and is the origin of pumpkin pie.

This seems especially speculative. Is there a source for this? Pumpkins were already common in Europe at least a decade before any of the permanent British colonies were established (and may have been even before Columbus - see my comment about that on the "Pumpkin" talk page). Pumpkin pie has a fairly long history in England, too (much like apple pie); although, there it appears to traditionally be a two-crust pie made with sliced pumpkin. In light of that, the statement really ought to at least be qualified by "some researchers bleieve," or somesuch, unless there is hard evidence. -GSwift 22:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Concur. I have a cookery book that locates the origin of pumpkin pies in East Anglia, and gives what it claims is a traditional English pumpkin pie recipe; it's an open-topped thing very similar to the modern American type, the main difference being that it includes dried fruit, no ginger, and much less sugar. I'm hardly going to cite a cookery book as an authoritative source, of course, but it seems plausible.
We certainly should not write "some researchers believe", by the way. That's not verifiable. We can only make claims like that in articles if we can identify which researchers believe it. The colonists story formerly in the article sounds more like folk-myth to me. — Haeleth Talk 12:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maple Syrup?

"... although in parts of Canada, fans insist on accompanying pumpkin pie only with maple syrup."

Can anyone confirm this? I'm Canadian, and I enjoy my pumpkin pie with (a whole lot of) whipped cream, couldn't imagine it any other way. Am I just from the wrong part of Canada? I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's indeed true though, some people go absolutely crazy over the sticky stuff up here. 156.34.178.98 00:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair point on the abundance of maple syrup fanaticism, and I wouldn't be surprised if border states in the U.S. (like Minnesota) also have people pouring syrup on there pies on Thanksgiving, but there needs to be some citation as to the truth of that statement (beyond the obvious: "My family, who happens to be Canadian, LOVES maple syrup on our pumpkin pie:D") Cybertooth85 19:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Seasonal?

Apparently (according to my mom) a lot of grocery stores have canned pumpkin year round. I guess they sort of stick it some place where people don't look. After the season I'll check, but would that be considered original research?Doregasm 05:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I doubt anyone would object; it would be a claim that a very large proportion of Wikipedia users could trivially check for themselves simply by going into a store and asking. It's always better if a published reference can be cited, of course, but we don't have a reference for the claim that it's seasonal either, so it's not like the article would be becoming less reliable!
Just wondering whether it might be possible to find a reference, though... might there be large grocery chains that issue catalogs or stock lists or something like that? — Haeleth Talk 12:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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