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[edit] Invisibility reference

"As the player progresses through the game, Raz acquires new psychic powers, including telekinesis, invisibility (perhaps a reference to the Invisible Woman of the Fantastic Four), pyrokinesis, clairvoyance, and confusion." (I've boldened the relevant text).

It could just as likely be a reference to Hollow Man, or The Invisible Man, or perhaps it's just a cool and interesting power to give Raz, like pyrokinesis and clairvoyance. My point is, I highly doubt it was included in the game as a reference to a 1960s comic-book superhero, or even less so to a movie which was very recently released. And if it wasn't a direct reference, I feel it should be removed as trivial information which can be easily learned from the invisibility article included there. Thoughts? – Quoth 01:37, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep it in. It MAY BE USEFUL. - Angie Y.

Well if it's clearly not a reference, that statement would be incorrect, and being so, should be removed. How is that statement more useful than the article on invisibility? Also, if you're going to include "useful" snippets of information for the power of invisibility, why not the less well known powers too, like pyrokinesis? One's that might need extra explanation. That is, if we're not going to rely on the linked articles. We're not just trying to include all the information we can in an article, but trying to include everything relevant in the most succinct fashion possible. There should also be as little conjecture ("perhaps", "maybe", "possibly") in articles as possible, since people come to an encyclopedia to read facts. I apologise if I sound harsh. – Quoth 03:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

delete - I must agree with Quoth here - I played through Psychonauts (and loved it). There is no clear reference to the Fantastic Four's Invisible Woman in the game, and with many "invisible" references in our popular culture it's arbitrary to pick one and attach it to this article. Sorry Angie - I vote with Quoth, strike the reference. JustinHall 16:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to say delete it as well. There's no indication the invisibility is a reference to ANYTHING. If there's no more objections, I'll get rid of it in a few days. --InShaneee 19:34, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • No more objections apparent, line now removed.

Delete this --Karimi 17:43, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bug report in trivia section

While I sympathize with the frustration felt when encountering a bug in software, is it appropriate for a detailed bug report like this to appear in the trivia section? Is it intended to be a warning for potential consumers of the PS2 version? If so, it could probably be rephrased more succinctly and put into the dev history section. -ERobson 06:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I did a quick survey of reviews of the PS2 version of the game, but only choppiness or framerate issues are mentioned. I'm deleting it from the trivia list. If they're actually widespread technical issues, feel free to add it back to the dev history section.Technitai 20:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Characters

I noticed that the following characters were not listed :
Chloe Barge (thought she was from another planet)
Elton (don't know the last name, reads the minds of fish, relationship w/Milka)
Quentin and Phoebe (musicians of a band, found in the main lodge, argue over the band's name, Pheobe is a pyrokenetic with a short temper, Quentin is calm but his powers are unknown)
Edgar Teglee (he lost his girlfriend in high school and had so much anger he went crazy)
Gloria VonGouten (was an actress, lost her talent when her mother commited suicide, went crazy)
Fred Bonaparte (related to Napolean Bonaparte, was the orderly in the asylum, met a convict named Crispin who kept beating him at a board game called "Waterloo World" until Fred went crazy and started to think he was Napolean)
Crispin Whytehead (drove Fred crazy and took his job as orderly)
Sheegor (works for Dr.Loboto because he has her turtle captive. She calls the turtle Mr.Pokeylope, but his name is Sam)
Also it was not mentioned that Milla had many children that all died when her house caught fire.

If someone could please put this information up, it would be very nice.

I put up a link at the bottom that has some of the characters, I don't have time to add them right now, could someoneelse add them ? --Karimi 16:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storyline

I added the storyline but its incomplete and is probably incorrect since I've forgotten alot of what happened ingame. Could someone check it for syntax and if its correct? --Karimi 16:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

You left out a lot. But I'm not a wikipedian so it would be trolling for me to fix it-Alice

Wow, that's a depressing attitude to take. Is this not the encyclopedia that anyone can edit?-Jake

Well done, but it certainly needs work - and some of the characters' names are spelled wrong. I am a Wikipedian so I'll do a cleanup after I get some sleep. I've been playing this game too long! —EatMyShortz 17:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor characters in Psychonauts

The list of characters is now huge, and contains minute details about all the minor minor characters. While this is all good, I think it clutters up the main page too much, so I'd suggest moving not just these but *all* the characters (except Raz, who has his own article) to a "Minor characters in Psychonauts" article. There they can be expanded more and put into headings, etc. I'll do it tomorrow if nobody objects. —EatMyShortz 17:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

No objections , I think there should be a better title though. Maybe "Psychonaut Characters" and it could link to raz and have the rest there ?--Karimi 17:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, you could be right. The name "Minor characters in Psychonauts" seems to be wiki standard tho (although some use "from" instead of "in": see Minor characters in Monkey Island, Minor characters in Star Wars, Minor characters in Seinfeld, Minor characters from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. But I agree, we're planning to put all characters (except Raz) on there, so we may as well call it "Psychonauts Characters" although personally I'd prefer "Characters in/from Psychonauts".
    • On a minor note of reply thanks for your comment on my userpage, Karimi. You've been instrumental on expanding this page, and it's good to work with you - I look forward to making the discussed changes with you to tighten things up more. —EatMyShortz 12:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
    • I think in/from is the best, I think "in" is more correct, but maybe its just me.--Karimi
    • Done - moved all the Characters info to Characters in Psychonauts. Now that its on its own page we can clean it up and expand with headings all over the place without over-complicating the Psychonauts article. I'll start doing that now. Also this discussion should be continued over on Talk:Characters in Psychonauts. —EatMyShortz 15:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] European Release Date

Don't know whether EatMyShortz' comment was aimed at my changing the European release date, but it did actually get a 10th Feb release in the UK (got my copy today lol). Don't know whether this sticks for the rest of Europe, but I would guess it does. —Coined 19:44, 11 February 2006 (GMT)

[edit] Gamecube comment

"It has been questioned by some fans why the game was not released on the Nintendo GameCube considering the buying trends of GameCube owners gravitate towards high quality titles like the game in question."

'High-quality titles'? I'm assuming a Gamecube owner wrote that. Regardless, it is pure opinion since plenty of decent games have flopped on the Cube, while others like Mario Party 7 get snapped up. This part of the article needs omitted, IMO.

This should be removed, 1 its more of an opinion than a fact. 2 It adds nothing to the article. At most what should be said is "It has not been released on the gamecube." and even that is not needed. I say remove it --Karimi 16:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree this should be removed (again, someone just reverted it). Though I didn't really like the replacement. I'm guessing a more accurate statement would be "Some fans bemoaned the fact it was not released for the GameCube as it is their preferred system." Elusivespoon 15:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with what Elusivespoon has said, it looks like a much more plausible argument. If I owned a Gamecube I would simply want the game, that would be logical, I wouldn't start an ideological debate upon the general quality preference of other Gamecube owners. I do not think Gamecube owners (or owners of any other console for that matter) are in any 'better' position than other console owners, that is not quite right. I vote for Elusivespoon's version. AdamDobay 19:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
It didn't originally say that. It use to say "It has been questioned by some fans why the game was not released on the Nintendo GameCube considering the buying trends of GameCube owners tend toward kid-friendly platformers". Jedi6 22:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I would have thought it had been obvious why it wasn't released on the Cube- storage space. GameCube games can only hold 1.5 gig on a single disc, and the abundance of speech in Psychonauts would have been too large to ship on one disc.

Wow, I think that's important information here, I wonder if it should be included in the article. AdamDobay 16:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
1.5 is bigger than that. There are plenty of games that hold tons of voice work on The GameCube. Jedi6-(need help?) 19:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
As much as Psychonauts though? Forgive me as I haven't finished the game yet, but I'm comparing it to Grim Fandango, which was on two 700mb discs with much cruder graphics. The majority of Cube games with large amounts of voice acting are held on two discs (Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos etc). Though if they could fit Beyond Good and Evil on one disc, then I suppose it could be possible.
The disc space argument is a reasonable one, but I would imagine there were larger market forces at work here. Rufous 08:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
But Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia are large RPGs while Psychonauts is a 20 hour platformer. All that data could be held on one disk. The problem you present was Nintendo's big problem during the N64 days. Jedi6-(need help?) 00:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Like I said, I was primarily using Grim Fandango to compare. Eh, probably the main reason for staying to PS2 and Xbox was market- Cube games not made by Nintendo do not sell, as a general rule. Sad.
I don't think it's a matter of the disk size...I actually pondered this while looking at the buttons on the Gamecube controller and I don't think there are enough buttons to actually PLAY the game. If I remember right, the PS2 uses the D-Pad, both analog sticks, all four of the shoulder buttons, the four shape buttons (of course), start, select, R3 and L3. Gamecube, however, does not have as many shoulder buttons, lacks "analog buttons" and a separate select button.

My point is made. Hope this made you think too. --66.136.181.57 05:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PC Gamer magazine

PC Gamer is sold in many countries around the world. Each one created using a combination of it's own material and syndicated material. I think it should be indicated which nationality of PC Gamer gave the award "Best Game You Didn't Play 2005"

[edit] Friendster

I would like to find the Friendster profiles mentioned in the article, but I've only been able to find one. Could someone put a link to them?

  • Try this The Friendster profiles were taken down, but the forum that this link takes you to has links to the My Space version of the profiles. X201 11:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Steam

This game was added to Steam (content delivery) on Oct 11, 2006. It'll be good if someone would edit the Article Page and add Information about it. (I Already Edited the Infobox) --User:Subbu.exe 10:56, 11 October 2006 (GMT +5.5)

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