User talk:Psdubow

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[edit] Editing battle of gettysburg

I'm sorry. I thought that Lewis A. Armistead should be included under important CSA Leaders in the Battle of Gettysburg article. I was trying to add Armistead but I was having a lot of trouble, and as a result, I accidentally made the page look bad. Good thing it was fixed. Hopefully, they'll add him to the page soon.

Psdubow

[edit] {{helpme}}

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I need help editing a section —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Psbudow (talk • contribs).

Can you be a little more specific please? — Deon555talk 22:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Click here "Gettysburg Navigator" is a template, on the Battle of Gettysburg page. Templates are transcluded into many pages. Take care, when changing the template page (the "click here" link above), as your change will immediately be displayed on all the pages that "Gettysburg Navigator" is on (A list is here). Let me know if you need anything else — Deon555talk 22:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sign your username

Use the code ~~~~ to show your name and time of entry. Cocoaguy (Talk) 01:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well i do not think so Psdubow, or should i say PSD!!!! Cocoaguy (Talk) 22:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use image use

Re: your comments on my talk page. Per Wikipedia:Fair use criteria item #9, fair use tagged images such as Image:Yankees cap logo.PNG, Image:JohnLennonWhiteAlbum.jpg, and Image:Democratslogo.svg may not be used on userpages, or any non-main article namespace pages. I've removed the images from User:Psdubow. Please do not re-insert the images. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. --Durin 00:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

  • In general, if you find the term "fair use" on the image's description page, chances are very high that the image must be used here under terms of fair use. Visually, if you see a great big C on the image's description page, like that found at {{logo}}, it is an image that must be used under terms of fair use. If you have questions about a particular image, I'd be happy to answer.
  • As to your second point; the policy has been appealed by a broad number of people and dozens of exceptions have been requested. All have been denied. The reason is this isn't just policy. It's a matter of law. Wikipedia takes this law seriously because we do not want to be the victims of a copyright infringement lawsuit.
  • Please understand; adding a copyrighted image to your userpage contributes nothing to the goals of the project. We are here to create an encyclopedia. Potentially violating fair use and copyright law on a userpage provides no benefit to the project while exposing us to risk. You are welcome to place free licenses images on your userpage all you want. The more the merrier if it makes you happy. But, non-free licenses images are off limits.
  • I hope this helps to better explain the situation. If not, I'd be happy to answer any additional questions you may have. --Durin 02:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Last warning concerning fair use images in user space

Psdubow, I am concerned that you have replaced the fair use images on your user page even after it has been explained to you that they are not permitted. If it happens again, I will block you. Please understand that under the Wikipedia policy we are not allowed to use fair use images in user space. It doesn't matter whether or not you feel that it's legal, that it's not against the law of the country. It's against Wikipedia policy. This is your last warning. AnnH ♫ 22:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. We're not interested in hosting userpages decorated with unfree content -- the policy is non-negotiable, not because Wikipedia administrators wrote a policy from their own personal preferences, but because there is no gain, and a potential problem, for the project in allowing people to use media that the project is not licensed to publish for decoration. In the future, when local administrators explain project guidelines to you, please simply accept that they are likely to know what they are talking about, and remember that Wikipedia is fundamentally a project to write a free, reusable encyclopedia. There is not a lot of leeway when it comes to using our resources for any other purpose. Jkelly 00:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Psdubow, you don't have to agree with our fair use policy; you just have to comply with it. A policy which places heavy restrictions on the use of fair use images on a website that you don't own can't actually be "wrong". It can be more strict that US copyright law, but that doesn't make it "wrong". We want an encyclopaedia that can be freely copied by others. Therefore, we have very strict policies concerning the use of non-free images. They are never allowed in user space. Keep in mind that if I revert four times, I'm not breaking the law of any country, but I'm violating Wikipedia policy and am likely to be blocked. So even if you feel that the use of such images in your user space is not against the law of the country, you still have to comply with Wikipedia policy.

Of course you don't like being threatened. Who does? However, I was actually quite lenient in threatening you, because the normal next step for replacement of non-free images in user space after the user has been informed of the policy is a block, not a threat of a block. So I actually gave you one extra chance — your last one.

How do I know the policy has already been explained to you? It's on your talk page, in the thread immediately above this one. It's also on Durin's talk page, in response to the protest you made there. Also, the history of your user page shows that Durin had twice removed the non-free images, with an explanation in the edit summary, before I got involved. Durin's page is on my watchlist, and I saw the messages you left for him there, protesting about his removal of the images. That's what brought me to this page. Incidentally, Jkelly's page is also on my watchlist, so I saw your question to him, and can guess at the answer. He presumably has my page on his watchlist, and saw your message to me, so took a look at the history of the page, and posted another explanation to you. Who is he? He's an administrator, as are Durin and I.

When you post messages on my talk page, could you please use the "show preview" button? That will mean that you can keep changing your message until you're happy with it, but without having about five different versions taking up space in the history of the page on Wikipedia servers.

Finally, a little point that has nothing to do with Wikipedia policy on image use — your message to Durin had "Stop bothering me and my friend" in the heading. You later changed it to "Stop bothering my friend and I". In fact, the first version was correct. A lot of people erroneously think that "I" is more correct than "me". That is only the case when it's used for the subject in a clause: if it's an object, "me" is, in fact, correct. See this excellent explanation of accompanied pronouns. AnnH ♫ 01:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FWD message from Durin to PSDubow

  • In general, if you find the term "fair use" on the image's description page, chances are very high that the image must be used here under terms of fair use. Visually, if you see a great big C on the image's description page, like that found at {{logo}}, it is an image that must be used under terms of fair use. If you have questions about a particular image, I'd be happy to answer.
  • As to your second point; the policy has been appealed by a broad number of people and dozens of exceptions have been requested. All have been denied. The reason is this isn't just policy. It's a matter of law. Wikipedia takes this law seriously because we do not want to be the victims of a copyright infringement lawsuit.
  • Please understand; adding a copyrighted image to your userpage contributes nothing to the goals of the project. We are here to create an encyclopedia. Potentially violating fair use and copyright law on a userpage provides no benefit to the project while exposing us to risk. You are welcome to place free licenses images on your userpage all you want. The more the merrier if it makes you happy. But, non-free licenses images are off limits.
  • I hope this helps to better explain the situation. If not, I'd be happy to answer any additional questions you may have. --Durin 02:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

FWD by Cocoaguy (Talk) 03:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • This was already posted by me above. --Durin 03:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] George W. Bush

I reverted your edit to this article. I don't know what the intention was but you blanked out some sections of it [1].--Dakota 01:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted you again. I'm not sure what the problem is, but this looks very similar to the edit mentioned above by Dakota. -- AuburnPilottalk 23:19, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Here too. -- AuburnPilottalk 23:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Another one. -- AuburnPilottalk 23:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
It also seems to have happened here, which was reverted by Cocoaguy and again here which I reverted. Both of these are from the Dr. James McCune Smith article. I'm not sure what's causing this... -- AuburnPilottalk 23:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

In response to this comment: Uh, no. First things first: Typing in caps is considered extremely rude; please don't do it. I do not owe you an apology, and I never accused you of anything. Your edits are blanking content, I pointed it out to you, and even stated that I wasn't sure what was causing this to happen. I highly suggest you take a step back and calm down. Blanking content for any reason will be reverted, intentionally or not. -- AuburnPilottalk 23:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mr. AuburnPilot,

I am sorry if I offended you in any way.

Also, I already sent this message by the time I viewed the message which said that you were not sure what causing that to happen.

I got angry and overreacted because Cocoaguy and I were working diligently on the Dr. James McCune Smith page and then something blanked out and I felt you were accusing me of a wrong doing after him and I improved that page so much.

Sorry again!

Sincerely,

Psdubow

Thanks for your response; no apology needed. Happy editing! -- AuburnPilottalk 01:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for forgiving me.

Psdubow

[edit] Your message on my talk page (Images and Grammar)

Hello again, Psdubow. Concerning the images, fine, no problem. It takes a while to get used to our policies. If you ever want to know whether or not you can use a particular image on your user page, I recommend that you ask either Durin or Jkelly. They are both very well up on Wikipedia image policy, and both are very patient and helpful. I see that your friend has found some free images, and has added them to your page, so I hope you're happy with them.

Concerning the question of whether it should be "you and me" or "you and I", I can assure you that I know what I'm talking about. I teach grammar to undergraduates, and have several qualifications in English, language, literacy, and linguistics. If it would be correct to say "us", then it's correct to say "you and me", or "John and me". If, however, it would be correct to say "we", then you should say "you and I", or "John and I". That is covered in the Wikipedia article on Hypercorrection, in this section. There's even a book called A Grammar book for you and I Oops Me (see here). Fowler's Modern English Usage is also very clear on that. I'm not surprised to learn that some of the people you asked disagreed with me. It's one of the most common mistakes in grammar today.

Regarding the spelling of "encyclopaedia", if you look at my user boxes, you'll see (third one from the bottom) that I use British English. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 02:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on my talk page. I'm glad I've convinced you about the "you and I" issue, and I'm glad you've been able to accept the Fair Use policy. Your page looks good now with the free images. It's nearly always possible to find a suitable replacement for a non-free image. It just takes a little extra time to look.
Feel free to ask if you have any questions about grammar. AnnH ♫ 04:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to George W. Bush. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: George W. Bush

If you noticed Psdubow the vandalism in question was the spamming of "##########" under the ################## entry. Also the facts in which you listed may already be included in the article, may sound POVish (see WP:NPOV), or come off as original research.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Check my talk page again. There is a question regarding if you can explain the "########" replacement entries. Thanks.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Your recent edit of my talk page came off as vandalism once more with the spam of "#########", please leave a valid explanation on either User:AuburnPilot's talk page or my own, thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

Dear Administrators,

It is a server error.

I even asked a more computer savy user and friend to help me and explain to me what is happening to me when I am trying to edit.

It has already happen to me on the Pres. Bush page, the Dr. James McCune Smith page, and others. It has also happened to other users too.

I am trying to edit stuff, but it keeps on doing this ("######") on some words. They are not offensive words! For instance, some of the words were hard, freedom, security, etc.

I am not trying to do anything wrong and I would be happy to help try and revert this server error and to fix the pages accidentally damaged by myself and others.

Sorry for any trouble I am causing you guys!

Thanks!


Sincerely,

Psdubow

  • Well alright, I will assume good faith and not scrutinize you for a server error. I am not an administrator but I do voluntarily patrol recent changes. Please however consider testing in the sandbox for awhile before you continue to edit articles just in case.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for giving me the benefit-of-the-doubt.

By the way, do you guys know what's causing this server error?

No offence, but I don't really need to use the "sandbox". I, for the most part, already know how to edit.

To prove it, please check out the work my friend and I did on the Dr. James McCune Smith page.

I want to be productive and add stuff to help improve important articles and articles I'm interested in.

Thanks!

Psdubow


  • I'm not mentioning the sandbox to learn how to edit, I'm saying to test in there if the error is persisting. Unfortunately I am unaware what may be causing the error but I wish the best of luck to you, and hope that the problem corrects itself or you find someone who knows how to fix it.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. James McCune Smith

Thank you for starting this article. I'll help out a bit when I can. NinaEliza 23:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Dr. James McCune Smith

Hello! I've made some rather major changes to this article. I've broken it into sections, did some re-wording, and removed some material that's currently unsourced per the article itself. It looks a bit bare now, but the "skeleton" is larger, so it should be a bit easier to build on.

I also removed the link to New York Historical Society because it led to the Wikipedia article, and when I went to the site itself, the PDF transcript they had didn't work. The podcast might be fun to include, though - I've seen it done.

I found some other online sources that could help. I'm aware that I did remove some facts, so I thought I should provide alternative sources for the online:

This is a pdf of one his essays:

I also noticed that in the sources the jury is out on whether Dr. Smith actually did have the first black pharmacy, it's just "widely believed".

I'll keep these links myself as well. I'll try to help when I can. Good work. Sincerely NinaEliza 03:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

On a side note, Yesterday might have been a sad day for you. Your good work here is much appreciated. This project is unprecedented - Imagine the possibilities!NinaEliza 19:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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