User talk:Pruneau

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Note: Unless you ask otherwise, I will answer comments on this Talk page, not on yours. Please watch this page if you wish to read my reply. If I posted a message on your talk page, you can reply there, I'll be watching the page.

If you are here about a motto: I'm sorry if I'm being bitchy, but even when a national motto seems really obvious, it can be really hard to get a reliable source to back it up. If I left a message on a talk page and/or if I added a {{fact}} template, then be sure that I spent some time looking for a reference, and that I didn't find one, so I would really like to know more about the subject. Perhaps I am completely rubbish at looking for references, and you will only need ten seconds to provide a reference. In that case, I'll be very happy to be proven stupid.

Contents 1 David Jenkins 2 Harry Potter 3 Charlie Weasly 4 References for populating Category:Former Students of Lycée Louis-le-Grand 5 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 6 WP:AID 7 Thanks for your contribution in Le Brun de Charmettes... 8 {AIDcur} 9 WW 2 Casualties- 10 Thanks 11 RfA Notification 12 Thanks... but I do not understand how... 13 Thanks 14 Greetings from User:Hunterd 15 AID 16 You helped choose this week's WP:AID winner 17 AID 18 List of state mottos, in Spanish 19 Belote 20 Why did you remove the AIDnom!? 21 Reply to removal of Fanfiction on AID 22 Coat of Arms 23 Barnstar 24 Cuban Motto 25 Greek motto 26 Please stop 27 I used to be a soapboxer on IMDB

[edit] David Jenkins

Are you sure David was a student at Queen's? I knew him well when he was Chaplain in the late 1950s and 1960s and I am not sure.Bduke 00:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

He is listed as a notable former student of The Queen's College, Oxford. According to his page, he was a student at Oxford, though his college is not stated. Unfortunately, Hephaestos (who added the information to the college page) has left Wikipedia, so I can't ask him for his source. Please feel free to correct if you have better information, since Wikipedia is my only source here. Pruneau

I think his page says he was a lecturer at Oxford. Someone, maybe Hephaestos, I think suggested that David jenkins should be moved from student to faculty on the Queen's page. I have searched in vain for details, but can not confirm he was a student. I'll keep on looking.Bduke 01:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Of course, you are right. And it turns out that Hephaestos added him to the list of notable former students "without a lot of thorough back-checking". I'll remove him from the list and the category for the moment, but I'll try to find out more if possible. Thanks for warning me. Pruneau 10:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Can you find a UK "Who's Who"? I looked for it today but only found the Australian edition. I'm in Australia. I'll try the State Library tomorrow.Bduke 10:08, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I checked the UK Who's Who. David Jenkins was a student at Queen's for his M.A. I also added his date of birth to his page. Pruneau

Well done. Does Who's Who say which theological college he went to? Some people would like to know that.Bduke 20:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Apparently, he went to St Dunstan's College in Catford before coming to Queen's. Is that a theological college? No other college is mentioned in the Who's Who. Pruneau 17:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

No. It is a Public School and there is a wikepedia page. I linked it in your comment above. He would have gone to a Theological College after his BA.Bduke 20:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Harry Potter

You rock my world for this. Thanks for helping me with getting started on working through some of that stuff. I'm much obliged. Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 04:51, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

You're the one who should be thanked. I can't imagine the time you must have spent taking all those uncited statements out of the article. I hope to be able to add more references later on. Pruneau 12:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Charlie Weasly

Here are your references: "...Charlie was captain of Quidditch." (pg 99, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, american version) and ""Wow, I remember when Charlie wore one of these," said Ron, examining the badge with glee." (pg 107, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, american version).(Duane543 01:44, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

Oops! Thanks a lot for that. Pruneau 11:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References for populating Category:Former Students of Lycée Louis-le-Grand

Hello. On what information did you populate this category? Reading the biography articles, for the most part they don't mention this lycée. Thank you. Incidently, this category is currently up for renaming, here: [1] -- Mareklug ^talk 02:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I populated it using a booklet I was given at the lycée, which had a section on the History of Louis le Grand. It seems that the official website contains the same information. Thanks for putting it up for renaming. It is needed, though I have no preference between "Former students" and "Alumni". Pruneau 12:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:AID

Hi Pruneau. The Article Improvement Drive thing, how know how to vote and to update the # of votes. I'm not stupid. Please don't do that again. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 03:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I never said nor implied that you were stupid. I just happened to notice that two vote counts had not been updated when you voted, so I thought I would give you a friendly reminder. I did not intend to be insulting or patronizing, and I'm sorry if you understood my message that way. Pruneau 11:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your contribution in Le Brun de Charmettes...

Hello Pruneau, Thanks a lot for your work improving the poor basic translation of this article: Philippe-Alexandre_Le_Brun_de_Charmettes I'm French too. I've years of practice in English, I spend almost 3 hours a day on phone with American and english colleagues, but still I make a lot of mistakes, because they know all the pitfalls I come accross and don't correct me any longer. It's a real challenge to translate in such a way it can be understood internationally. You do a great job. --froglight 23:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. It's always nice to receive thanks! :-) Don't let a few mistakes discourage you from editing Wikipedia: other users are always happy to copyedit! Pruneau 23:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {AIDcur}

Please note that this kind of templates belong on talk pages, and not on articles. Just thought I would let you know. You can reply here if you have any comments. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the templates from WP:Collaborations seem to belong on article pages (but only for one week, so templages like {Past AID} belong on the talk page). See for example the current CotW Japanese robotics, the current Math CotW Arithmetic or the previous AID Gagauzia. Thanks. Pruneau 23:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Collaborations,

Create a collaboration notice template, and insert it at the top of the talk page of current or nominated collaborations.

I thus moved that one to talk:Mathematics.

As a general rule of thumb, all meta-information not pertaining to the article, except maybe cleanup tags do not belong in the article, rather on the talk page, as far as I know. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

From the very same page (Wikipedia:Collaborations#Templates):

"General practice is to have the template marking the current collaboration at the top of the article in question while leaving the candidacy templates on the talk page."

I agree with your rule of thumb, but collaboration templates are another exception. ;-) Pruneau 23:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I raised this issue at Wikipedia talk:Collaborations. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 00:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I reverted your edit on Mathematics before reading your message; my comment on the revert war was only meant as a sally (is that the word? My English isn't perfect). I felt I was applying policy by doing this, but it probably needs to be discussed. Thanks for raising the issue; I'll warn the people at WP:AID.Pruneau 00:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WW 2 Casualties-

Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity in the listing of Holocaust victims. I made an update to clarify the issue.--Woogie10w 20:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for giving me the heads up. --Osbus 19:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Notification

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[edit] Thanks... but I do not understand how...

Thank you but how does this work. I write:

[[:Template:subst:CurrentMCOTW]]

but it doesn't work. What does subst stand for...? --Francisco Valverde 15:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the notice about the Egypt page, I'd be happy to help!Matwat22 19:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings from User:Hunterd

Hey. I see that you have placed a message on Thefourdotelipsis' page regarding the Article Improvement Drive. I would like to be a part of this. Where do I register to get said messages? Thanks. David P. A. Hunter 10:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC).

Hi! The AID maintenance team usually puts that template on the talk page of the users who voted for the current AID. If you'd like to take part in the AID on a regular basis, you can either help edit the AID of the week (for example, you could watch the Template:IDRIVEtopic to be warned when a new AID is chosen), or you can help with the maintenance - see WP:AID/M. All the help is really appreciated! Thanks. Pruneau 10:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AID

[edit] You helped choose this week's WP:AID winner

- Davodd 05:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AID

Hi. Thanks for doing the AID rollover; however, you did something weird: [2]. I think I've fixed it, but you might want to be careful next time you copy/paste. ;-) Pruneau^T 16:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I had something weird going on with my computer last night. I had to re-install part of the OS because of some corrupted DLL files in explorer. Davodd 17:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of state mottos, in Spanish

Thank you! I will update it soon. --adrruiz \^(talk) 22:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belote

Salut Pruneau, I responed at Talk:Belote. --Cameltrader 11:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you remove the AIDnom!?

See above, in reference to the article fan fiction. I do not understand why you removed the AID nomination note from the top of the Talk page, especially since from what I recall, it's not time yet for the vote to be tallied (I could be wrong, but it would be nice if you actually mentioned as much), and am of the opinion that removing the tag at this time WITHOUT addressing it AT ALL on the Talk page to explain why it was removed, either (I'm sure you had a legitimate reason, but it would still be nice if I didn't have to go to the page's EDIT SUMMARY to even see who removed it, let alone not even find an explanation for its removal, either), is not the best idea. Please explain your action, and next time, please explain why you've removed the notice on the Talk page of any article you remove such notice from, because I think avoiding this kind of confusion in the future is a damned good idea. :\ Runa27 20:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Sidenote - please respond or copy your response on my Talk page. Runa27 20:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Don't forget to assume good faith. I was cleaning up Category:AID candidates, and fan fiction was listed there, but not on WP:AID, so I had every reason to believe that the nomination had expired. In fact, it turns out that User:Stovetopcookies had removed the nomination for no reason at all. I've readded the template on the talk page, added a new nomination on the AID page (I changed the dates so that the article still has a fair chance of getting 4 votes in a week), and I posted a notice on Stovetopcookies' talk page. I'm sorry about the mistake (though I had no means of guessing what had happened). Thanks for warning me! Pruneau^talk 22:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to removal of Fanfiction on AID

Please accept my apologies for removing your article from the AID. I actually was trying to vote for it, as someone (I do beleive it was you) mentioned that it was nominated in the first place. I must have pressed something wrong (I am using an old browser and things don't always display as they should). I thought that my vote had gone through but I apparently deleted it by mistake. This was clearly not my intention! I'm sorry for any trouble this has caused. Stovetopcookies 05:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the info = )

[edit] Coat of Arms

Please note that a description of any item can never be copyrighted (just like source code). Maltesedog (p.s. reply on my talk page)

Regarding the motto, I have written to the local department of information for an official answer. Maltesedog 09:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Re your comment placed on the Malta article.. you thought the motto was part of the coat of arm. You wrote "when it is not". It was actually part of the coat of arm of Malta. Actually it was part of the National Emblem and Seal used during 1964-1975 see Coat of Arms of Malta, and for this reason I believe it is the motto. Also, I do recall, President Edward Fenech Adami referring to it as the motto, but there is no written proof, so its better to await an official reply from the Maltese government. Maltesedog 10:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Geography Barnstar
		I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless work on mottos of various countries Maltesedog 09:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cuban Motto

Nobody can decide whether Cuba has a motto or not - even Cubans are unsure. I've added some citations, and will give it a few days. If we get no further details then we should remove the motto. Thanks for your work.--Zleitzen 16:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Various thoughts have been mooted on the Cuban motto. As we now have a citation on the talk page I'll leave it to you to make the final call.--Zleitzen 14:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greek motto

Hi, I was wikistalking your talk with Tzekai. Sources:

• Ministry of Culture
  • "Η σημαία του Γ.Σισίνη με σύμβολα της Φιλικής Εταιρείας και το έμβλημα του αγώνα Ελευθερία ή Θάνατος, η μόνη που διασώζεται από τις πρώτες που ύψωσαν τα κατά τόπους επαναστατικά σώματα."
  • "The flag of G.Sisinis, with the symbols of the Filiki Etaireia and the emblem of the fight Freedom or Death, the only one saved from those first raised by the local revolution corps."
• MICHAŁ BZINKOWSKI, ELEUTHERÍA E THÁNATOS!, THE IDEA OF FREEDOM IN MODERN GREEK POETRY DURING THE WAR OF INDEPENDENCE IN 19TH CENTURY. DIONYSIOS SOLOMOS’ “HYMN TO LIBERTY”
  • Paper on the motto

Hope I helped, regards. •NikoSilver• 12:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the help (and for teaching me a word, I'd never heard of "wikistalking" before!). While both links show how important the phrase is for the Greek, I don't think they show that the motto has an official status nowadays. From what I understood, the first link shows a flag used when preparing the revolution, and the second one shows the influence of the phrase on 19th century poets. Unfortunately, this doesn't say much about the motto today. I think we need to keep on digging... Pruneau^talk 18:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I am sure that this is the national motto of Greece, this is why i removed that request citation as 'ridiculous'. and i doubt if any greek says it is not used as such. but i will try to find a citation about that as well. regards Hectorian 21:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hector, it seems that Pruneau has a point. I am sure the contemporary motto of Greece is not 'Freedom or death' because there isn't any Greek who hasn't been freed (including these ...in a sick black humor sense). I'll search more, but I'd say that instead of 'motto' maybe we should use 'historic motto'. For what it's worth, the president (who is the one responsible for whatever is supposed to symbolise 'Greece', does not use it in his site at all). See here (and check the other symbols too).

On the other hand, we Greeks, were raised with that slogan. We had it in our textbooks, we were taught about it in school, we used it in all parades, we listen to it in the news and in every relative occasion. I am sure that even contemporary presidents/primers/defence ministers etc have used it in their speeches. I am not sure if 'Greece' would like to be known today as the country that has reasons to specify 'Liberty or death' though... So, 'historic motto' it is! •NikoSilver• 21:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop

Iranian motto is Esteghlal Azadi, jomhoriye eslami, which means Independence Freedom, Islamic Republic and it's in Persian. Please stop editing a page when you have no idea about the subject you want to edit. --Arad 01:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, I don't know much about Iran, but I know enough state mottos, and finding a reliable source for the Iranian motto is not easy. I see you added the FIFA website as a reference; unfortunately, the FIFA website is not a reliable source. For example, it says that the motto of Cambodia is National harmony [3], when the constitution says it is Nation, Religion, King [4] (article 4). I suspect that FIFA took some of the mottos from Wikipedia, so we can hardly use their website to confirm information.

If you can find another reference, I'll be happy to accept it. I should note that I raised this issue on Talk:Iran#Motto, where the rationale for listing Allah Akbar is given: Article 18 of the constitution states that "The Official Flag of Iran is composed of green, white, and red colors, with the special emblem of the Islamic Republic, together with the State Motto.". The only text on the flag is Allahu Akbar. Mowens35 agreed on that matter.

I suggest that we continue this discussion on Talk:Iran. Pruneau^talk 09:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I used to be a soapboxer on IMDB

I used to be a soapboxer. I should of worded it better. But I have trouble wording things. As a soapboxer, I saw alot of anti-christrian posts. I also saw anti-israel posts. Matthew1990 00:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I am sure that such cases exist. However, what makes you say that the Sopabox is infamous for those postings? Have they been discussed anywhere else than in the Soapbox? Such statements cannot be left unreferenced. Pruneau^talk 01:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)