User talk:ProveIt

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Contents 1 Your edit to Category:Farms in Norway 2 Turn Left page 3 Category redirects? 4 Categories for Discussion log pages 5 Your edit to Category:Companies based in Butte County, California 6 Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion 7 Re: People from Potomac, Maryland 8 Re: Administrator Circeus's advice 9 Roy Harper re-categorisation 10 Your revert of Category talk:Health Club 11 Hindu temples 12 Vijay's films 13 X-Men members 14 CfD comment 15 The Cadet Organisations categories 16 Your addition of Category:Gossip Columnists to Category:Gossip columnists for speedy renaming 17 Pro-life, pro-choice CfDs 18 Transport in London 19 Barnstar! 20 WikiProject Munich 21 Your edit to Category:Politics by issue 22 Anti-Judaic people 23 Category:People from St Helens 24 Rajkumar Kanagasingam 25 Zone 3 cat 26 Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#A quintet of continental categories 27 Category:San Diego Tourist Attractions 28 Pastorwayne and categories 29 Mess 30 Crime families vs Criminal families 31 you'll laugh! you'll cry!! you'll execute a head of state!!!! 32 Bangladesh 33 American Veteran Politicians

[edit] Your edit to Category:Farms in Norway

Your recent edit to Category:Farms in Norway (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 16:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_August_10#Category:List_of_farms_in_Norway_to_Category:Farms_in_Norway. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 16:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning for editing Category:Public terminal IP addresses (diff). The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. // AntiVandalBot 18:23, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_August_27#Wikipedians_who_required_user_interventions. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 18:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, AntiVandalBot, you're so funny when you get false positives. ;) No worries, it gets upset over things like that now and then. It's usually pretty smart and saves everybody lots of work, but as you can see it occassionally errs. The worst it'll do is report your activity to AIV, at which point an admin will look it over and confirm you're not doing anything worth blocking. Luna Santin 22:30, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, ordinarily removing a CFD tag is something we would want to consider vandalism. Oh well, live and learn. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 22:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turn Left page

Hi. I'm involved in an argument on the Turn Left page. As you have edited the page in the past, I'd like to seek your input on the matter, also dicussed on Talk:Turn_Left. Thank you. Xiner 02:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know much about Turn Left ... all I did was fix a category for it once. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 05:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category redirects?

Is there a way to redirect a category? Let's say Category:Georgia Institute of Technology Sports should be redirected to Category:Georgia Institute of Technology sports because people keep misspelling it. How would you do that? —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 02:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

That's a category redirect, see, for example Category:American authors, it's done with the {{category redirect}} template. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 05:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, thank you. That's what I was attempting with Category:Georgia Tech people. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 07:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I recommend making Category:Georgia Tech a redirect to Category:Georgia Institute of Technology, just like Georgia Tech itself. Everyhing else will just follow. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 14:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 15:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories for Discussion log pages

I'm trying to figure out why the log pages for Categories for Discussion keep getting named "Categories for Deletion" and thought I'd ask you, since you've created (at least) the last few instances. Is there a template you're using, that should presumably be updated? If I'm misunderstanding the process by which these pages are created, I apologize for bothering you with this. --Bill Clark 17:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a historical thing, and I think we're planning to change it come 2007. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 17:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation; I'll leave the pages as they are. --Bill Clark 17:38, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Category:Companies based in Butte County, California

Your recent edit to Category:Companies based in Butte County, California (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 23:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning for editing Category:Wikipedians who use WikiWikiWeb (diff). The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. // AntiVandalBot 23:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion

Hi. I wonder whether you can help find the Category change request on 22 October which seems to have gone missing - it's discussed under 'Lost Request' in the Talk section, but nothing seems to be happening. GrahamBould 16:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean this one? Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_27#Category:Freshwater_fish_of_New_Zealand. If you look at the user contributions tab, you can search for just your changes to wikipedia only. see wiki It shows nothing for october 22, but finds three on october 27. Hope this helps. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 17:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

One thing thats a little weird, it looks like the category itself Category:Freshwater fish of New Zealand, never got tagged. It is itelf the result of an earlier rename ... -- ProveIt ^(talk) 17:17, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_16#Fauna_by_country.

See also: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_22#Category:Fauna_by_country_and_subcats. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 17:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: People from Potomac, Maryland

I wasn't sure at first what you were referring to, but I realize that you are referring to the names I deleted from "current residents" of Potomac. Maria and Eunice Shriver reside in California; Mike Tyson most certainly no longer lives there; if I erred otherwise, please correct.

HOT L Baltimore 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Administrator Circeus's advice

Oh, that was b/c of what an advised me re those categorizations. I am not sure how to link it to you, so I am copying it from my talk page and I am sure you can make sense of it:

I was wondering if you could explain the logic behind such categorization? I've been fixed such things several times these recent weeks. Circeus 13:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I am an administrator, and the only thing I've been correctig are the nonsensical attempt to use list markup on categories and sorting categories into themselves (the latter move is particularly ridiculous). If you want to link to a category, use this markup:[[:Category:People from Whatever]]. Circeus 14:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Yours, HOT L Baltimore 18:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Mind if I comment? HOTL was a bit overzealous here. Our discussion had to do with categorization such as this (unwanted/duplicate/circular categorization), which he seems to have confused with the legitimate categories you were adding. Circeus 20:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roy Harper re-categorisation

Why did the Singles category get renamed songs? Where am I supposed to put all the singles? I'm a bit confused, shouldn't there be at least two categories? (One for songs and one for singles) I tried to look up the "debate" for this decision but just found a proposal and three agreements and they weren't on the talk page for the category either, which seems a bit odd to me, how was anyone else supposed to put forward their opinions?

There are 35 years of singles and albums to cover and this doesn't make it any easier. Can you help. Stephenjh

Sure, I know what happend. Once upon a time there were two categories with a huge amount of overlap, Category:Songs by artist, and Category:Singles by artist. All the singles are songs as well, so they decided to merge the two and just use Category:Songs by artist to cover both singles and songs. However, they still use Category:Singles by year, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 14:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I have a lot of work ahead of me with the Harper stuff I know, but that does make it a lot simpler. Regards Stephenjh

[edit] Your revert of Category talk:Health Club

I'm not sure why the redirect was reversed, but since I started this Category and have been the main one editing it, I went ahead and re-directed it. I agree with the rename and re-direct. I will be reverting your change. --Maniwar (talk) 14:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Category:Health_Club. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 15:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hindu temples

Temples in the context of Tamilnadu almost always means Hindu temples. So, I wanted to mean Hindu temples, when I put it as temples. All said, I agree that there might be some temples that are not Hindu temples. So, I would like the categorization to be linked to both Hindu temples in Tamilnadu and Temples in Tamilnadu. Otherwise it might create deep hierarchies and won't enable proper collaboration. Balajiviswanathan 02:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vijay's films

Why did propose a deletion for Vijay's films category? Tamil films is such a huge category and hence it must be sub-categorized.

Balajiviswanathan 02:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Category:Films by actor doesn't work, because each film can have dozens of actors. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 16:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X-Men members

You sir are fast : )
We were just discussing this user at User talk:ChrisGriswold. There is also apparently at least a Category:Brotherhood of Mutants members as well. - jc37 21:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Just the luck of the draw, I just happened to be looking at recent changes... -- ProveIt ^(talk) 21:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, he's going non-stop (fast enough to make me think it's a bot), creating new team membership categories. Considering the mixture of responses from posting at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics, perhaps the easiest answer would be to just nominate them for deletion again? or do you have a fast way to undo what he's doing? (In other words, asking for your opinion / insight : ) - jc37 21:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

He seems to be building a new cat called Category:New Mutants members, looks real to me, but I'm hardly an expert. No I don't have any fast way to undo it. The comics people would probably know better than me. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 22:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks anyway : )

and I have to go for the day : (

Anyway, Have a great day : ) - jc37 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CfD comment

please learn how to do an umbrella nomination. This has 106 subsections, and that's just unweildy. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 15:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not even close to as large as several we've had : )

(Fauna and actors by TV series both come to mind.)

That aside, what would you see done differently?

(Also note User talk:Radiant!, for a related, though different thought.)

- jc37 15:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

As you would expect, the tricky part is making all the tag links work. I had it all figured out, and was even ready to point you to a working example, see religious leader by year. However, good thing I checked, it turns out someone recently modified the {{cfd}} template so that it automatically adds Category:. This means that if you tag everything as {{subst:cfd|Umbrella}}, you now have to name the section header Category:Umbrella, instead of the Umbrella that used to work before. Oh well, I had to go back and fixed my links. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 17:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Cadet Organisations categories

Please can you look at you proposals again. The word "Cadet" is usually capitalised in respect of such organisations. I agree wholeheartedly that "organisation" should not be. I have made a note over this under "Naval Cadet Organisations", and felt it simpler to ask you to revisit than for me to add a similar comment to each. If you agree, I think it would be great to do this once only :) Fiddle Faddle 23:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

If it's part of a proper name than it gets capitalized, so like Michigan Cadet School would be capitalized, as a proper name, but Michigan cadet schools would not be. I think the reason was that Wikipedia started off using sentence case for articles, and so it sort of carried over to categories when they were invented. And you're right, the C is capitalized in the articles, such as Australian Army Cadets, but that's because it's part of a proper name, not because Cadet is a special word. Hope that helps. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 23:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your addition of Category:Gossip Columnists to Category:Gossip columnists for speedy renaming

I made the capitalization error out of force of habit. Sorry. Since it was my creation, and I concur with the move, do we need to wait 48 hours?

And thanks for catching it. Sorry I didn't notice before clicking "save". --Jgilhousen 01:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, if no one protests, it will just happen automatically. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 01:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pro-life, pro-choice CfDs

Because the concerns that counsel the deletion of the pro-life actors category are the same as those that counsel the deletion of pro-life musicians, pro-choice actors, and pro-choice musicians categories; because the creation of the four was undertaken by one user in view of a discussion toward such collective creation at the abortion WikiProject's talk page; and because similarly-styled categories were dealt with (and, quite properly, IMHO, disfavored) collectively in a May CfD, I merged the four discussions under an umbrella heading and refactored your nom (very, very minorly) accordingly; I hope you'll not mind, and I hope you'll forgive that which otherwise might be perceived as rather untoward.

On an entirely different note, having first encountered you at CfD a few days ago and having apprehended from a look at your talk page history that you are exceedingly sensible and well-versed in policy (especially as regards CfD et seq.), I concluded you might make an excellent candidate for adminship, but then I learned from your userpage that you like Jethro Tull. Your liking Veronica Mars and The West Wing redeemed you, but then I saw Babylon 5 on your list of favorite TV shows, so now I'm eminently confused. :) In all seriousness, if you should like to pursue an RfA, I'd be happy to nominate you... Joe 06:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I think an umbrella nomination makes sense in this case. And thanks, I guess ... meybe someday ... -- ProveIt ^(talk) 06:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transport in London

I added the cfd tag because a number of people started voting to delete the categories alltogether, which I don't think is abundantly clear outcome on the cfr tag. I am concerned that if users see the tag that says the category will be renamed, and they do not object to the proposed new name, they might not bother participating in the discussion, and then get a nasty surprise later on. I'll see if I can make the new tags point to correct section.

It has been suggested that the wording on the template be changed, see for example [1], quickly reverted here [2]. Tim! 18:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I, Persian Poet Gal, hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless categorization efforts :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Munich

Kingjeff 02:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Category:Politics by issue

Your recent edit to Category:Politics by issue (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 17:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Judaic people

Regarding your nomination here. Unfortunately the two categories aren't supposed to be even related. Anti-Judaism is criticism or hostility toward Judaism (the religion), whereas antisemitism is hatred against Jews as a people. One is hostility toward a religion; the one is hatred against a certain group of people. They're not that related. Taxico 11:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I see the distinction, but I think that Anti-Judaism in theory would soon become antisemitism in practice. Categories aren't very good for making these kinds of fine distinctions. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 13:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a big deal I suppose. Taxico 13:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:People from St Helens

Hi, I notice that you have recatted this to Category:St Helens and kept it in Category:St Helens, Merseyside. We don't want articles split between the two or folks will not be able to find things (If people go to Category:St Helens they may think that is all there is). I want to depopulate the first prior to deleting it (or you could depopulate the second, I don't mind but I think one has to go). BlueValour 04:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

You are right, the Category:St Helens ought to go. I've set it up for merging. The problem was that it was trying to use a template with a bug in it. I noticed it was trying to create a category named Natives of and it had a messed up description. Doing a revert fixed that, but as you point out, it still left an extra category. I think I've got it set up correctly now, there's still the extra cat, I didn't fix that because we aren't supposed to empty a cat while it's in cfd ... but it will go away soon. I just have a simple catmore there now, go ahead and change that as you see fit ... -- ProveIt ^(talk) 06:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for this helpful response. BlueValour 17:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajkumar Kanagasingam

Though the Rajkumar Kanagasingam was posted by me to the wikipedia originally but wrongly as a newbie (and still feel so), it was actually created by Wackymacs[3] and subsequently shaped by others [4], [5], [6], [7] and [8].

After they all have given notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam only, I started to shape the Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Daily News of Sri Lanka [9] is a Sri Lanka's National Newspaper since 1918 and the widest read newspaper in Sri Lanka and overseas.

Rajkumar Kanagasingam has published articles over the years and the following articles [10], [11], [12] and [13] are available online since 2002.

Though the articles have been written by the subject Rajkumar Kanagasingam, the facts he has mentioned in those articles might have well accepted by the populace without any complaint before he published the next article over the years and might have established some credibility within the Editorial circle as well.

I wonder why those articles can't be considered as Reference for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Press Release in Daily News [14] could speak for Rajkumar Kanagasingam's association with leading Sri Lankan and international personalities and adding notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The US State Department's Office of Weapons Removal and Abatements "Safe Passage" Newsletter carried a news[15] on "Night of A Thousand Dinners" which was organised jointly by Asian-German Sports Exchange Program and PDIP, A Think Tank which was founded by Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

As the PDIP's Secretary-General, his activities in the available publications (on-line) will speak for his achievements.

All of his above attempts are substantial enough for a fair testimony for his notability among Sri Lankans and gives weight of his book German Memories in Asia which is about-to-be-released.

Ezine Articles may be "Vanity Press" but the contents in most of the articles by Rajkumar Kanagasingam are falling in the lines of well-researched and well-documented articles than those of mere Search Engine Optimization (SEO) ones.

After all his Ezine Articles are linking to his Book/Author Info. Page in AGSEP[16], which is an NGO and not to his personal or affiliated sites with ulterior motives of Ad Sense and click-gimmicks. As an author he is trying his fair attempt for his book without any hidden baits.

Some of the linkings might be Link Farms as I am a newbie of mere three months, but you should consider few of the internationally prominent people I have so far created and those have been left out in the wikipedia so far, especially Dr. Gamani Corea and others.

I have spent lot of my time to keep Dominic Jeeva from deletion with rest of my creations Arumaipperumal and Pandara Vannian which are not falling into the Link Farms.

The Internet is introduced after the mid nineties and still most of the news items are not falling into the web-world. By expecting reference for testing a person's notability with on-line reference materials might be some times misleading where the particular persons' references are mostly in off-line media archives.

Internet is mostly weighing a person's prominence based on the Internet availability in English and few other languages and not in all other world or local languages.

I don't have any objections if suitable and appropriate deleting Rajkumar Kanagasingam from wikipedia, but my kind expectation is at least wikipedia should attempt to have a survey among Sri Lankans through its available means whether Rajkumar Kanagasingam is prominent enough or not among Sri Lankans.

User:Rajsingam 2 December 2006

[edit] Zone 3 cat

Forgot about the bot and created this on my own. Now there are 2 categories for London Travelcard zone 3 and both with half the stations in i.e. one cat has one half of the stations and vice versa. Simply south 16:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, they are WAY behind, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Working. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 16:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Should i create the other cats? Simply south 16:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Only if you are becoming impatient. It's already near the top of the list, so I'm sure they will get around to it pretty soon now. ProveIt ^(talk) 16:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Naaa I'm not impatient (i hope) and i'll leave it to them. It's only minor. Simply south 16:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#A quintet of continental categories

Since I don't like editing other people's XFD nominations, do you want to add Category:United Methodist bishops by continent and Category:Religious leaders by continent, along with the various continent subcategories? Mairi 02:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I considered adding the UM Bishops one, but I figure that the creator is an expert on that subject... so I've been leaving it alone. I'll look into the other one though, hadn't noticed it. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a few more I want to add, but I'll start a new cfd. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:San Diego Tourist Attractions

Good call considering the naming conventions. I have withdrawn my speedy renaming request, as it would be redundant. GregorB 11:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pastorwayne and categories

Pastorwayne seems to be a perpetual source of bad categories. He is probably responsible for 5% of the categories at WP:CFD, and his actions verge on being disruptive. Is it possible to ask for administrative action to stop him from creating categories? (I will mention him at WP:AN later today.) Dr. Submillimeter 07:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, please do. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 14:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mess

I feel i have created a mess on WP:CFD as i created a category but it got finished pat midnight. If you have seen, i have been swapping it back and forth between Dec 8th - Dec 9th. Simply south 00:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The important thing is to make the tag links work correctly ... I've taken care of it. -- ProveIt ^(talk) 02:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crime families vs Criminal families

Thanks for your previous participation at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_December_8#Category:Crime_family. I would appreciate your comments on the latest conversation. TonyTheTiger 21:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] you'll laugh! you'll cry!! you'll execute a head of state!!!!

Hi, Provelt. I won't hold your LAMP usage against you. :) I was pondering Hideki Tojo today and happened upon one of the categories that makes wikipedia such a special place: Category:Executed heads of state. I noticed that Nikolai Ceaucescu was absent from said list, and went to add him to the list. On so doing, I saw yet more executive mirth: Category:Executed presidents, Category:Executed royalty, and I am sure there are more lurking out there. Would it be worthwhile to just join all of these people into a larger category, such as the executed heads of state category? It seems to me that whether they were royalty, president, or whatever other title a head of state can have, is not exactly relevant to the fact that one day they were head of state, and the next day, they were wormfood. I see you're one of those very useful categorists (thank you, thank you), and I'd prefer to yield to your experience in this matter. ttfn, ... aa:talk 07:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm ... I did a little bit of tinkering, let me know what you think. It seems to me that presidents are both politians and heads of state, but royalty is sometimes, but not always head of state. I've moved things around a little bit and I think it's probably ok for the moment ... do you agree? -- ProveIt ^(talk) 15:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangladesh

You must be able to see that this is an ongoing piece of work that started only today re Bangladesh; though in fact that is just one small phase of a general restructure of the entire category:History of cricket. This restructure is being done to improve matters for the readers because several of the cricketer categories are too big and we need to categorise them both spatially (which has already been done for the most part) and temporally.

Why not ask me via the talk page what I am doing before going straight to CfD? --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 17:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I've already said thanks to you on the CfD page but I really should do likewise on here. All the best. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 20:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Veteran Politicians

Category:American Veteran Politicians(Deceased) -> Category:American veteran democrat politicians

American Veteran Politicians(Republican) -> Category:American veteran republican politicians

American Veteran Politicians(Deceased) -> Category:American veteran deceased politicians

Category:American veteran independant politicians

There seems to be an urge to merge these categories when all that is necessary is making the names lower case. I think the categories should remain seperate so that wikipedia can provide a more useful delination fo this information to people. I don;t have a problem changing the names, I'll even do the work myself. How Do I declare the discussion ended? --Dr who1975 21:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)