Talk:Product management

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The article is overly broad in terms of the typical aligment between product managment, corporate marketing and product marketing. Further, in some companies, the role of product manager may also be more aligned with general management including responsibility for the overall Profit and Loss for a line of business. I'll try to add some of these details as possible and would welcome any thoughts or assistance in this regard. 71.36.193.95 16:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, this article was written from classic marketing textbook material and treats product management as a subcategory of marketing managment. In the real world, product managers must be more diverse in their activities and responsibilities. The real world activities of product or brand managers is better covered in the brand management article. Your input into either article would be appreciated. mydogategodshat 01:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Should be clearly distincted from Product Configuration Management as can be understood by many people from industrial areas, esp. from automotive and aerospace.

I don't like this article at all. It seems to take an old marketing textbook's definition of marketing + assumes the "P" refering to Product defines product management, but this is far from the truth. Any objection to restructuring this article? Similar work already in progress under term: product manager.--Areback 22:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I've already removed some spam, but the article could use an introduction, sources, and much more besides. --Ronz 15:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Certifications

I removed this section because of the problems with violating WP:NOT, WP:SPAM, and WP:EL. I think that PDMA's is a reputable enough by all accounts to list. If the section is added again, all entries should strongly adhere to WP:V and WP:NOR to avoid these same problems again. Other ideas? --Ronz 00:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

The link to the reference article that is the basis of this topic is not spam. Please do not remove it as I shall reinstate it. I can create a link directly to the PDF if that is needed for compliance. Lets discuss this.

Also, the topic is after cleanup.--Spinacia 16:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to my edits. First, why haven't you been linking directly to the article? Second, I think the article still needs cleanup since it's not encyclopedic and has poor references. Third, I think the article should have the marketing tag to provide better access to the related subjects. Fourth, we need but do not currently have reliable sources per WP:RS and WP:V. Fifth, if the sources listed are the only and best available, then we may have a proble with notability. Sixth, this applies to each and every article that lists such sources, which there seem to be a rather large number of on related topics. Seventh, the references are borderline advertising, especially when not directly linked - I'd rather have better references that are clearly not promotional. --Ronz 17:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I shall link directly to the article.Spinacia 19:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I've removed both sources as dubious per WP:V - authors are not notable, articles are self-published. --Ronz 01:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I shall defer discussion on the issue of external links and references. Do note that the topic of product management is different than other "encyclopedic" topics with many of its thought leadership emanating outside of academia. In the meanwhile I shall continue to expand the article. Thanks. Spinacia 08:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)