Talk:Pro-life feminism

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[edit] Criticism?

What are other feminists think about so-called pro-life feminism? This position is lacking in the article! -- till we ☼☽ | Talk 14:35, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Permanent Removal of Biased Commentary

I removed most of a long commentary on Roman Catholic "New Feminism." It gives the impression that prolife feminists are all Roman Catholics, and Catholics who accept official doctrine at that. Not so.--M.

I removed this biased, non-NPOV, non-sourced commentary:

Some have accused Feminists for Life and other such pro-life feminist groups of having little to do with feminism, pointing out their efforts seldom extend beyond opposition to abortion, and claiming they merely represent an effort by the pro-life movement to gain support with women.

This comment does not have one source listed on who said these things, when they were said, etc. It is the commentary of a Wikipedian, and as such, it is non-NPOV and must be removed. I will keep removing it too if a source, or citation, is not provided. --Keetoowah 18:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

There was a citation, and you removed it. There was a citation to an essay in The Nation presenting exactly that opinion. It is not non-NPOV to present the existence of dissenting opinions. I am restoring it, because your criticism is unfounded. --Soultaco 20:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with Pro life Response to criticism

I cleaned up the criticism section and set it off from the main blob of text, but there is a problem: The pro life response to the criticism is full of logical errors:

• Obviously, "moral agency" allows killing: Just war, capital punishment etc. are fine according to many different moral philosophies
• Women's bodies are not a "tool for profit", abortion is unprofitable in many circumstances, especially in places where laws make it very difficult to perform. Moreover any service provided at a cost can be considered a "tool for profit", you are ignoring what benefit the customer may receive.
• There is no one "feminist model". There are many different feminist philosophies. Please cite what exactly you are referring to.

--Zaorish 19:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I didn't write that, but I think I might know what the user meant in regards to the "tool for profit" concept. I have read pro-life feminist material that points to the profits groups like Planned Parenthood receive as an example of their true goals. I think that one at least, is valid to place under the counter arguments.

But overall, I don't think three lines suffices as a response to criticism. That part needs to be expanded with some more detail, or deleted altogether, as I see it.--GenkiDama 21:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)