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[edit] International broadcasts list

Hi. I just reverted edits on the section "International broadcasts" since it was only partially ordered in alphabetical order. If anyone would like to reorder the list, please do so consistently so that the entire list is ordered the same way. -- Ladida 13:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cable TV networks

Unless the country does not have a free-to-air television broadcast of Prison Break, the cable TV station that is broadcasting the show can be added. Otherwise, we'll have a huge list since most countries have cable television networks in conjunction with the free-to-air television networks. For this reason, I have removed "FOX8 - Australia" from the list. -- Ladida 09:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoilers

I have created a template {{pbspoiler|SEASON}} because the main templates can't provide a decent link to the List of Episodes Page without trying to link to Specific seasons (eg. #season1). However, I have noticed that the issue of spoilers is contentious and whilst I personally feel that each episode summary is obviously going to contain spoilers, some might be caught out and be disappointed. How do people feel about spoilers on the episode guides? GenestealerUK 12:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I actually think it looks kinda bad. The template wasn't really needed. Like u said it's obvious that episode guides are gonna contain spoilers if you haven't already seen the episode, so people should not read them unless they want to know what happens. Same thing goes for the tv guide, but they don't put a spoiler warning on every show listing - it's common sense. Each episode has links to Series 1/2 pages via the template at the bottom. England DJDannyP//Talk2Me 12:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I think it is a bad idea; Template:Spoiler-about (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) will suffice. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 13:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
As I said, maybe it is obvious that a spoiler is about to appear. However, we cannot assume that someone has come to that page indirectly of their own choosing. They may well have come directly from search engines and are unaware that details of an episode they haven't watched are about to be revealed. Therefore, we take some responsibility if that happens unless we have a caution on the page. GenestealerUK 13:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Template:Spoiler-about (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) does not link to List of Prison Break episodes. I figured it would be better to include that link hence {{Pbspoiler|SEASON}} GenestealerUK 13:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
The spoiler template doesn't need to link to series 1/2, etc as the Prison Break template does. Even if someone comes through a search engine, then the page title is enough to let them know that they're going to be reading an episode guide. As with any discussion/information/anything about a tv show, it should be assumed that it is up to date with the most recent episode released. It looks kinda garish at the top of every article, it is implicit when seeing the article title/link page that it will contain spoilers. England DJDannyP//Talk2Me 13:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airdates and international broadcast list

The international broadcast list is now getting too long with the Airdates of Prison Break article becoming redundant. In the Airdates of Prison Break article, the US episode airdates are unnecessary since they're already in the "list of episodes" article and the airdates of other countries are unencyclopedic. I think that the written descriptions should be simplified and merged into the main Prison Break article. Furthermore, the international broadcast list can also do without the alternate titles and weekly schedule. Please see examples from the following feature articles: Arrested Development, Cheers, Felix the Cat, Lost (TV series), The Office (US TV series) and The Wire (TV series). What do you think? -- Ladida 12:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree with most of what you say, however, I do think that the names of the show in different languages are of interest especially since in many cases they are not literal translations of "Prison Break". Spebudmak 14:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I've merged the international broadcast list into Airdates of Prison Break. Is the title of the article suitable? Since the article now contains premiere dates of the respective countries only. -- Ladida 03:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
When I created the Airdates of Prison Break list it was based on Airdates of Lost (now deleted). I approve of the moving of international broadcasts into the Airdates list -- makes it much more useful and encyclopaedic (and clears up space on the main Prison Break article). Tntnnbltn 05:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested improvement

I think we need to put forward some suggestions on what to improve on this article. Here are some:

  • Add a section on critical response
  • Add a section on themes (?)
  • Add a section on particular characteristics of the show (like the short scene shown before the advertisement begins)
  • Expand on some sections (?)
  • Move DVD info to Episodes list page(?)

That's all I can think of right now. :) Ladida 03:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Fox River State Penitentiary redirects to this article. We should consider writing an article that describes the prison, much like our character articles. I don't mean a repeat of where it is filmed, I mean in a fictional sense, what can be gleamed from the show in terms of the details of the prison. Should this be incorporated into the article, should another article exist, or is it fine as is? -- GenestealerUK 23:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I guess you can sort of write about the prison using episodes 6 and 7 particularly since the prison itself was featured heavily during the riot. It probably would be best if it was a separate article unless it's only a paragraph long. I was sort of hesitant creating a separate article for it since there is an article on Joliet Prison, which is essentially Fox River, except that article contains no information on the structure itself, only historical information. -- Ladida 06:04, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Add references for dubious content. -- Ladida 06:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
added suggestion to move DVD list to Episode list page. Work reasonably well for the page listing the episodes of House and DVD info on the main page seems a bit too much like advertising sometimes. dont know if the wikipedia television project has a policy on this yet. -- Horkana {date}
There's only one DVD available. There's not enough information for it to have its own article. Jtrost (T | C | #) 02:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
not suggesting an article for just the DVDs, include the DVDs on the List of Prison Break episodes page

[edit] European Goldfinch Dot Net

Can anyone decode the postings at EuropeanGoldfinch.net? It seems like the characters are giving subtle clues to the future plot. I'm not active on any Prison Break fan sites, but could someone post here (and in the article) about any deeper meanings people see? --OSUKid7 04:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Prison Break Someone has posted this I think or something.

[edit] Fansite

Why not add fansites? I don't see a difference between TV.vom Television without pity or TVIV and fansites when they all do the same thing..Bring Prison Break News a forums, and episode guides.208.61.30.94 19:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :

1. Well written? Fail Pass
2. Factually accurate? Border Fail
3. Broad in coverage? Pass
4. Neutral point of view? Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images? Pass


Additional comments :

  • The lead section doesn't convey enough information to situate the reader, it should be expanded.
  • The Plot doesn't carry the out-of-universe criteria that WP vows for in articles dealing with fiction (See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).
  • The Trivia section should be part of the plot in a way to bring such the plot section to have more a out-of-universe feel.

Lincher 19:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The lead sounds good to me ... now about the trivia section, since there is a no non-notable trivia in the GA criteria, I'm afraid it has to be cut down or added to the text somewhere in order to prose such information. Lincher 11:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
All notable, cited trivia has been moved into the prose. Uncited trivia has been removed altogether, and trivia about actors outside of the scope of the show have been moved to that actor's article. Jtrost (T | C | #) 12:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA re-review ; pass

It now fulfills the requirements of the GA criteria. There was some nice writing added and some needed removal that brought the article to a better state. Good luck for the future of the article. Lincher 18:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stolen?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061024/ap_en_ot/prison_break_lawsuit_1 someone should put this in here. Avalon Bound 15:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

Perhaps we should make it clear that for anyone else who is willing to break into a prison to save their wrongfully accused brother, tattooing the floorplan to your body isn't the best way to go about it, as surely at some point in your stay someone will notice the big-ass tattoo covering your entire body. Yes, believe it or not, the police look for identifying marks on your body. This would most likely result to a prison transfer and regretting you paid $4,000 for the service.

Did you even watch the show? The tattoo was in code, so only Scofield could understand it.

[edit] Name of the actor

Does anyone know what is the name of the actor who play the henchman who killed nick savrinn ? He is very styled. Roger_Smith

I find his name, it is Scott Jaeck. Roger_Smith

[edit] International Viewership - UK

There's information about the airing of the show in America, Canada and France, but nothing about its viewership in the United Kingdom. The show has been a success in the UK, getting good ratings on Five (terrestrial, first-run) and having an entire day (or weekend, I forget) dedicated to it on UKTV Gold (satellite, second-run).

I think that its airing in the UK, including critical repsonse and viewing figures, should be acknowledged. I would happily write the paragraph if someone could provide a few pieces of information, such as ratings for the premiere on Five, the date it first aired on Five and UKTV Gold average ratings of the season, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UberHW (talk • contribs) 15:14, 28 November 2006.

This is a section that I created but Australia's viewership was already there before I added Canada and France's viewership. There is no information on the UK's viewership because I have been unable to find information on the UK's viewer ratings. The information that is currently provided could be found from the news or from the broadcaster's press releases. I'm sure the show has been a great success elsewhere. I checked Five's website but I couldn't find their ratings information. Similarly for other countries, especially the non-English speaking countries, it is hard to find information about their viewership when one is unfamiliar with their language or how the ratings information is released in that particular country. Regards, Ladida 05:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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