Talk:Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau

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Contents 1 Name of this site, Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, is wrong! 2 Princess Mabel, Mrs Van Amsberg? 3 She is 4 Official full name

[edit] Name of this site, Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, is wrong!

There was never given an approval for a marriage with Prince Johan Friso, and the request for approval was withdrawn by the couple. However, they nevertheless married on April 24 2004 and therefore the Princess didn't became member of the Dutch royal house. The Dutch royal house is a smaller part of the Dutch royal family and under the responsibility of the minister; those who are member are in line of succession to the throne. Therefore she didn't get the title Princess of the Netherlands, but because her husband is still Prince of Orange-Nassau her title is Princess of Orange-Nassau (by marriage). Therefore her correct name (and name of this page) should be: Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau. Please correct this!

• ok, so is the current heading "Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau, Mrs. van Amsberg" the correct way how they call her in Netherlands? or is it just "Princess Mabel of Orange-Nassau" what exactly is your proposal? Antares911 16:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Princess Mabel, Mrs Van Amsberg?

I have never seen Princess Mabel referred to in this way... her husband is not Mr Van Amsberg, why in the world is she Mrs Van Amsberg? I do think that this is a totally false piece of information.

[edit] She is

Princess Mabel is called mrs. van Amsberg because she is married to Prince Johan Friso, who inhereted the appelation of nobility "Jonkheer van Amsberg" from his father Prince Claus of the Netherlands. It is his surname. Since the wives of a "Jonkheer" do not share in that appelation, they are called mrs. followed by the surname. Crownprincess Maxima and Princess Laurentien are also called mrs. van Amsberg. When the Prince of Orange (elder brother of Johan Friso) got married to Princess Maxima, the name mrs. van Amsberg was specifically mentioned by mayor J. Cohen, who conducted the marriage ceremony.

[edit] Official full name

Actually her full official name is:

Mabel, Prinses van Oranje-Nassau, Gravin van Oranje-Nassau, Mevrouw van Amsberg - Wisse Smit.

in English:

Mabel, Princess of Orange-Nassau, Countess of Orange-Nassau, Mrs van Amsberg - Wisse Smit.

She is a princess, because she married a prince, but the fact that she and her husband are not members of the royal house (i.e. are not in line to the throne) makes that she is HRH (her royal highness), but a HH (her highness).

Princess Mabel is commonly referred to as princess Mabel, but apparently she prefers to use her own name Mabel Wisse Smit.