Talk:Princess Máxima of the Netherlands

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Contents 1 Requested move 1.1 Discision 2 crown or not /princess 3 Cerruti her legal name ?????

[edit] Requested move

Q: Just trying to figure out what Mamixa's actual title is. The title of this page, it seems that her official title is The Princess of Orange, but on the Dutch monarchy's website, she is referred to as Princess Maxima of the Netherlands. Just curious, but does anyone know which is right???Prsgoddess187

A: Princess Maxima is not legally entitled to use Princess of Orange. Upon her marriage, Maxima was created Princess of the Netherlands in her own right, as the government feels that the only person to use the title "Prince/Princess of Orange" should be the heir to the throne. The Dutch monarchy website is correct, Wikipedia is wrong.

Thanks for the answer. How much trouble do you think it would cause to move the page? If she is not entitled to Princess of Orange, her page needs to be moved.Prsgoddess187 12:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Agree In that case I would agree with Prsgoddess187 to have this moved to the correct title. If this is what the Dutch government says is her name and title, obviously they would know best what the correct way is. Gryffindor 10:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

AgreeMac Domhnaill 23:54, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

AgreeOriginalbigj 19:31, 10 October 2005

[edit] Discision

Page moved - have a good day!!! Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 06:47, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] crown or not /princess

Isn't she Crown Princess of the Netherlands? Everywhere I see her husband referred as Crown Prince, but she seems to be just a princess. ObRoy 01:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Where do you see her titled as Crown Princess? I believe that the Netherlands is in the same situation as the United Kingdom in that the heir to the throne simply is not titled Crown Prince. The difference though is that the Netherlands does not automatically extend titles to the wives of princes. Maxima had to be created a Princess of the Netherlands and a Princess of Orange-Nassau. Even if the Dutch had the title of Crown Prince, the use of Crown Princess has not legally been extended to Maxima. Charles 01:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Precisely, I do not see HER titled as Crown Princess, contrary to your belief. Whereas her husband's article begins with "Crown Prince..." - and that crown prince is in quite many other places too, when browsing internet. Besides, what makes Netherlands so different in that grant aspect - there are certainly other realms too where a grant is needed. ObRoy 02:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be then that the Netherlands treats the crown princely title the same as the title of Prince of Orange --- only the heir may bear them. Charles 02:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

And now you construct Netherlands an exception... what if the "crown prince" mentioned in W-A's article is only some vernacular... ObRoy 03:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

My previous statement was only relevant if the article on W-A is true. Before that though, I doubted that it was. I still do. Charles 03:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

According to the Dutch Royal Family's website, he is only mentioned as The Prince of Orange, no mention of Crown Prince. I think that his article is misworded, it should probably start out with Prince W-A, PoOrange. Prsgoddess187 11:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cerruti her legal name ?????

Q: As I know it, Cerruti is an addition to Maxima's name, invented by a certain poster on royal message boards. He likes the nobles and royals to have names which sound as grand as possible. However, to have the mother's maiden name added after the father's name is not the argentinian custom. Is there really any proof Maxima actually had Cerruti as a part of her legal name when she married into royalty ?? Vupti 14:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I really doubt that was something "invented by a certain poster on royal message boards"; although it's not common, actually many Argentines have the mother's maiden name added after the father's name. —Aucun effort n'est trop grand 05:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)