Talk:Presidency of Hugo Chávez

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[edit] Broken references

There are a bunch of broken reference links in this article I can't find the original note text for. It was apparently split off of Hugo Chávez back on October 19 2005, and I did find some reference material there to repair some of the broken links with, but others were still missing. Anyone familiar with the history of splitting and merging on this subject and able to provide clues to track down the rest? Bryan 05:55, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Down to just one broken reference. It's probably one of the Carter Center ones on the main page, but I haven't looked at the contents yet to see which one. Bryan 05:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presidency, why?

Why does this article article exist? Since when is it necessary to distinguish the president as a person from his presidency? Well, maybe Hollywood actor Ronald Reagen, but are there other good examples of this practice? Someone, please explain the meaning of this forking. Medico80 22:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't around when the article was split, but it looks to me like it's simply a way of breaking up an overly long article into chronological chunks. This article is about the time period during which Chavez is president, stuff that happened before then is still back in the main article and presumably stuff that happens after he's moved on to other things will go there too. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of material was left behind in the main article in the process, though, so it didn't reduce the size as much as it could have. Bryan 00:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Chavez led a bloody coup well before he was a President, so there are issues separate from his Presidency, but if Nelson Mandela can be written about in one article, it would seem that Hugo Chávez could. As far as I have been able to tell, a LOT of Hugo Chavez articles exist because they were spun off of the main article (which is HOPELESSLY too long, biased, suffers from dubious sources, and needs a major red marker), using Summary Style, when it was aiming for featured article status. Rather than ruthlessly getting rid of unnecessary, controversial, or poorly-sourced writing, it looks like it was moved into daughter articles. A lot of what is written in the too-long main Hugo Chávez article needs to be moved over to the Presidency article, so I don't think deleting the Presidency article would be productive -- but everything in all the articles needs to be edited, shortened, and better sourced. I personally believe this was a bad use of Summary Style, but since the main article is hopelessly too long, the daughter articles are needed. Sandy 01:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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