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Hi, I couldn't figure out how to reply to the message you sent me, so I'm commenting you here. I understand why you deleted my posting about Claude Gabrillo, but I want you to understand that it was not an attack or act of aggression in any way. Claude is my best friend and what may have seemed to be nonsense to you would have made a great deal of sense to him and almost anyone else in our grade at our school. Please allow me to repost my article in peace and if Claude has a problem with it, he can delete it himself. Sorry for any bother I caused you.

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the welcome and such, its good to know that people are actively encouraging Wikipedia participation with such vigor. PS. Sorry to be so obtuse, but it is you that needs some project art? I'd like to give that a try. Cheers, Jive Monk 08:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] working on it

Sorry, I usually get the stub in place, then start adding. I won't let them sit. Thanks, you efforts are appreciated... —Hanuman Das 05:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Recent Changes Patrol

Just wanted to let you know that three times in a row just now, you have beat me to a speedy tag or copyvio, heheh. Wikipedia appears to be in good (not to mention, nimble) hands, so i'm calling it a night. Good work. ;) Rockpocket (talk) 06:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy delete

Hello? Did you actually go and look at the history for Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy to understand why I removed this former section and started a new sub page for it? Kindly remove your {{db}}. Netscott 06:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response and {{db}} removal. In the future please do proper research on a given article creation (ie: try following the immediate contributions trail of the one who starts the article) before letting those quick fingers take hold. Netscott 06:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] speedy delete of a page

I immediately acknowledged and executed changes to the page that I added a link, at your request. This submitted information was considered an attempt to advertise according to the message. However, after researching other pages that fit within this subject matter, other similar services have a multitude of external links to their pages. How is this possible, or allowed. This creates a system that can potentially set websites like mine off balance. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Phooddaniel 08:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Jamees Snider

Good afternoon Porge. As you may already know i have been involved in the discussion about the Boxipuss. Since then Dr. Sieve has contacted me as i believe you asked for a third persons view on the matter. However he has not stated it is true, he has stated it as a myth, therefore everyone has a right to have the choice to believe it or not. I do not believe your "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is true however i have not listed your page for deletion. So i expect the same from you. Yours Sincerely. James Snider.

[edit] alex lynn speedy delete

I have contested your speedy deletion. Please check the talk page here: Talk:Alex Lynn Slasher600 01:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for responding in such a rational manner. Slasher600 01:24, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy Deletion of "Vixxen"

Thank you for deleting the article, I have no affiliation with the group in any way, the page was merely to prove a point to the band itself, and through your actions I realize I will stick to editing articles or contributing to already existing ones. I also know why Wikipedia is not the place it is purported to be (which is a good thing.) ViceroyInterus 01:35, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Test —porgestalk) 02:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Modern Gnosticism article might not be worth spending too much time on

Modern Gnosticism was previously deleted a couple of times, and just keeps being re-instantiated by the author. I have just placed the {{deleteagain}} tag on the page, so it should hopefully disappear again within an hour or two. Thanks, Fuzzypeg 04:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Barbara Ann page

Hi I saw your "contradict" box that you left at the top of the Barbara Ann page and saw that you said "times don't match". Well the reason why I made the time in the single infobox different to the one on the actual page was because the time stated in the single infobox refers to the overall time of the single ie: the "Barbara Ann/Girl Don't Tell Me" single has a total time of 5 minutes, 42 seconds. Whereas the song Barbara Ann goes for 3 minutes, 23 seconds. The reason I made it like this was because I was unsure of how to show both the total time of the single and the time of Barbara Ann song itself. If you have any better suggestions of how to resolve this problem please let me know before you edit the page. Many thanks -- Sahafan 10:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


Okay thanks mate... i like your suggestion. Theres still a few pages that have the same thing so yeh if you want to help me update them then that would be of much appreciation, but if not i'll get to work, anyway as I said before, thanks for your help -- Sahafan 12:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Template talk:Cite journal, issue, and Magic quotes

Hello there!

I posted this on Template talk:Cite journal about the optional issue parameter:

According to the code:
}}{{#if:{{{issue|}}}
| ({{{issue}}})
Issue is actually included as a parameter. If I recall, it renders as (volume(issue)) 142 (4).

Also, I noticed that you recently converted Template:Cite journal, Template:Cite paper and Template:Cite news to use Magic quotes. The manual of style (which I just linked) doesn't specifically say whether or not to use “curly quotes”, (It actually says: However, it appears that historically the majority of Wikipedia articles, and those on the Internet as a whole, follow the latter style.) but it seems to suggest that the majority of articles tend to use straight quotes. The templates are in high use, so you might find that the quotes are converted back to straight quotes by somebody who dislikes the look of them.

If it is changed back, and you wish to use them in the citations in an article you're working on, you could ask somebody (I'd be happy to do it) to add an optional parameter (perhaps "curly=True"), which would change the quotes to curly in a case-by-case basis. :-) Jude (talk,contribs,email) 00:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

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Feezo (Talk) 06:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to welcome you. — nathanrdotcom (T • C • W) 08:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates and curly

Yes, I'm just about to do them. Was testing it out to make sure that it actually worked properly; in theory, it's correct, but in practice... not necessarily. Anyway, you've probably twigged on how it works: Just add "curly=true" as a parameter. You don't even have to say true; 1, or a single letter, will suffice; leaving it blank, however, will leave it turned off. Simple! I hope. ;) Jude (talk,contribs,email) 10:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Wonderful :-) Jude (talk,contribs,email) 10:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

I was wondering if you would be so kind to unselect the page on the boxipuss for deletion as this page means alot to me and to other wikipedia users. Yours sincerely Dr.Alan Sieve

[edit] policy debates on AfD pages

to say that policy shouldn't be debated on AfD pages is perhaps a bit overly organizationalistic. policy questions are kinda relevant sometimes. tho, admittedly, sometimes people go a bit overboard when thier precious is on the chopping block. Ka-zizzlMc 21:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Replied on talk page. —porges(talk) 21:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

replied there also. Ka-zizzlMc 21:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland meetup

Just to let you know that a meetup is planned in Auckland for the 25th of June (see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland for more details), and that you are cordially invited. GeorgeStepanek\talk 00:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lynley Dodd

You could propose this article, along with all her books, as a topic for New Zealand Collaboration of the Fortnight. I would assume that many wikipedians who are parents will have copies of the books, and for the rest of us that's a new section of the library to explore. Are there interviews with Dodd available on the web we could mine for information?-gadfium 04:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addicted to Anime

I was away for a few days, came back top find the ATA article slated for deletion, where is the line drawn, c.f. Harmony, California, Brisbane Anime Society, London E10... Alex Law 12:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of religions once classed as cults...

Would you consider changing your vote to keep the information if it were merged with List of groups referred to as cults or expanded into a broader topic: "The Transition from Cult to Religion." That might make a very interesting wikipedia article. cairoi 17:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Your comments on WP:Complete Bollocks

Thanks for your recent addition to the talk page for Complete Bollocks. I am very pleased you like the article and the spoken word version, which was produced and recorded by myself. The Wikiproject "Spoken Wikipedia" found here is in need of people to head through the wiki and record articles for them. If you wish to join up, please drop onto that page and sign up to join the project. You just need a recording program, such as Audacity 1.2.4 (available as an RPM or a .deb, whichever you use) which will output recorded files in Ogg Vorbis format. Best Wishes, and if you need any help, please get in touch. Regards, Thor Malmjursson 11:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC) Thor's Pet Yack

[edit] Diarrhea Song in NZ

Hello, you posted that The Diarrhea Song is known in New Zealand. Do you know a version? If yes, would you be willing to sing your version over the phone so that I can see if the tune is the same there as it is in the USA?

Thanks!

John Mehlberg 18:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the edit to my userpage! Yes, em dashes are much nicer. :) --Fang Aili 說嗎? 22:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] May the Force be with you.

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Dear Porge,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. :) I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 21:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Request

Please porges since the deletion of the boxipuss my life has spiralled out of control it is all i have. I am requesting you to allow me to put this page back on Wikipedia. By the way I didn´t unselect the deletion for the page so the choice you made seems unfair. Yours sincerely Dr. Alan Sieve. --Dr. Alan Sieve 07:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zodiac

Hello. I see that you want references for the zodiac article. Can you specify particular passages the need references? Alan Liefting 01:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice Newsletter

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[edit] Concordia newsletter

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[edit] A short Esperanzial update

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[edit] had trouble with my edits

Is someone against ... erasing my edits to the modern usage section?

[edit] can this be added to cocaine

[edit] Renewed Popularity in the 2000's

Cocaine has become more [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.showbiz.gossip/browse_thread/thread/7a09c862a3dc050c/7ead27ba2407f8e4?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2&hl=en#7ead27ba2407f8e4 | common]] in the club scene, in the mid-2000's as an alternative for [[http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetContent.aspx?token=8ce583c0-2d91-46f6-af0a-aa4c845a0528&chunkiid=31675 | hipsters]]instead of crystal meth or XTC. It’s a milder high and experienced club goers are attracted to it because they feel more in control with the high from cocaine vs. alcohol. It has recently become popular in the [[http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/state/epaper/2006/05/21/c1a_COCAINE_MAIN_0521.html | 20-30something suburban scene]] as a safe drug like pot was in the 1970's. Cocaine has few immediate post-high side effects, if taken in moderation, compared to other stimulants, and is complimentary to the recent RedBull-Vodka effect of staying up and being stimulated as long as possible. It also creates the feeling of euphoria similar to X , but a more spiked shorter effect. It has also become a commodity were women, especially swingers, expect "treats" in exchange for sexual favors, and typically blow jobs. However men often have gone on binges instead of use them as " treats" because it lowers male’s ability to have an erections. This has caused the combo of cocaine and Viagra to become popular among sexual active men and even women. Women will often suggest or even supply the Viagra before sexual activity as the numbing effects of cocaine are widely known.

The usage of Cocaine has become more common among married 30-something women in the late 2000's, as women are hit a change point in there lives with kids and family completed. The drug usually is introduced through a new friend in book clubs, neighborhood events and home marketing gatherings. This new user will have sense of entitlement that "they have worked hard, done right and its time to try new things". This sense of new found excitement, the high of cocaine, drives married women to behave this way. Husbands will almost always go along, because if their wives increased sexual desire. But in the end men are driven to abuse of the drug if they control the financials of the household, and therefore the quantity of usage. However after a mild habitual addiction has set in the wives find other means to obtain cocaine through sexual favors, as it sexually stimulates them. They can typically bypass the a money exchange for cocaine in party venues like clubs, concerts and home parties, [[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crack+whore | for sexual favors, most commonly blow jobs, in private places (i.e. bathrooms, private rooms, cars etc.)]] Cocaine usage has become more common in the [[http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003539.html | upper middle class]] since the cost is just another expense which can easily be hidden in the a +$100K salary. The damage really done when the casual club going habit becomes out of control and turns instead into a binge activity and it destroys careers and sanity of the mind to stop the usage.

[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] Image:Chirac-official.jpg - Help needed

Hello Porge. Due to my inexperience I have inadvertently reverted Image:Chirac-official.jpg to its previous version. Though it would seem that the only difference between the two versions is the size of the photograph, I would be grateful if you could remedy the situation. I have tried it on 4 (!) occasions, but to no avail. RedZebra 10:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] November Esperanza Newsletter

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20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Concordia Newsletter

NEWSLETTER

Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.

[edit] Help out now!

  • Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
  • Give people the Civility Barnstar.
  • Make and spread some Wikitokens so people know there are people to help if they want assistance.
  • Add banners or logos to your userpage to show your support.
  • Suggest some ideas! Add 'em to the talk page.

We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.

[edit] Decision Making

The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.

If you wish to opt of of further talk-page communications, just let us know here.

- Ian¹³/t 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC). Kindly delivered by MiszaBot.

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