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Éire

I noticed your question to user:Jtdirl, who is offline. No, it is not true that the British government refused to recognise "Éire" or use the term - indeed the opposite is true. The word Éire is Irish and means identically "Ireland" - the island. Through some process of doublethink, HMG was content to accept the name in Irish, but not the same in English. The relevant article is Names of the Irish state. --Red King 00:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

PASOK

Your comments were biased and therefore deleted. Please refrain from expressing your political opinions in a wikipedia article.--83.146.62.97 08:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia seems to be transforming itself into an extention of PR services, especially for politians and political parties - and you, dear contributor, may well be such a 'service provider'. Your ignorance is excused but please try to learn the difference between bias and contextualised facts. I suggest you catch up with Greek history of the last 30 years, read up a string of articles from Greece and about Greece in non-Greek journals; unless of course you are a PR person. I would also argue that the new PASOK is transforming itself and it does not need revisionists like yourself (and give yourself a profile). Politis 12:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Control your impulse

I am trying to understand why you persist in puting that statement even though the Infobox says the same thing. Do you think people are too stupid to read the infobox? (UNFanatic)

If the article Cyprus only covers the "southern sector", why include the universities found in the northern Turkish occupied areas. I have added your note in the body of the article in the first paragraph. And by the way, sign your comments next time.(UNFanatic 16:20, 23 February 2006 (UTC))

Are you really a Greek???

Shame on you! really pity for writing propaganda for legalization of the crime of turkish Invasion! User:KRBN If it is an invasion you can call it TRNC. As for the Annan Plan, that plan was re-uniting Cyprus only on papers, it was creating two seperate states that would have collaborated, the settlers would have stayed all, it would have violated human rights and was giving sovereign rights to Turkey. Whole island would have been under the rule of Turkey. If you think that is Koumbarokratia, we are sorry but as Cypriots we have our pride. User:KRBN Well your justified by wanting Kliridis in government because of Annan plan. As you said this Annan plan is a headache for Greeks (actually a small minority of greeks who trust the murderers of iraq), that's right you want it to be finish in whatever solution that will be under Turkey interest and you don't care if it will destroy cyprus and our future generation. Sorry my friend but we have the so called Koumbarokratia which cares for the survival of any solution but not to solution that will destroy cyprus. because koumbarokratia for you is to not satisfy the murderers of iraq, to reject to sale your homeland to turkey, to defend human rights etc. and also to accept 2 seperate states with a weak government which would not have work. So if you call this koumbarokratia, then yes we are proud to have a president of koumbarokratia. cyprus would have been only on papers in EU. the solution would have been anti-European because the plan was violating extremely the main issues of the european law and also cyprus would have no vote since we would have to wait the court to take decision (i say this believing that u have read annan plan). and put it to your mind because u said majority wanted annan plan and changed mind; Cypriots are not idiots and have pride and WOULD HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED A PLAN OF THE SHAPE. the status quo would have been legal under this plan.User:KRBN

Priory of Sion

Thanks for your questions. I'll post a response on the talk page of this article. --Ryan Delaney talk 23:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Slavic languages

All these things have been thoroughly researched by linguists. Regarding the Greek backbone or Greek structure you are referring to, the ancestral language, the hypothetical Proto-Indo-European language, could be regarded as a form of early Greek, if you wish, because it is similar to proto-Greek. Look at the article on the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European language, especially the table on verb forms, and you will see that these are more similar to modern Greek than to any other modern language. There are verbs in -mi (like in ancient Greek) and in -o. Note the time frame:

I feel sorry for you.

I feel sorry for your beliefs about the Republic of Cyprus. It is not ursurping Greece by any means. On the contrary my friend, Greece as a guarantor country skrewed up. And by the way, Greece skrewed up in Asia Minor by invading without the support of the allies(they could hav stayed in Smyrna) and made a similar second mistake in Cyprus by funding the coup against Makarios. Now I think this century Greeks have been screwing up. Also, in the Republic of Cyprus, there is plenty of new blood to lead the country as an independent nation.(UNFanatic 20:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC))

Response posted to UNFanatic: [...]I understand and respect how you feel about Greece. But as far as I am concerned, Greeks paied a heavy price against the junta and other oppressors; they do not need the (southern) Republic of Cyprus - one of the richest countries in the world - milking them financially and abusinig them emotionally. Also, I hope you are active in making sure that the Cypriots of the ROC stop abusing Greek diplomatic support. Also, please make sure that the Cyprus issue stops dominating Greek diaspora organisations and Greek lobbies, it simply uses up their valuable time and they could be concentrating on important Hellenic issues. If you are a Greek Cypriot and are angry against the Greeks, make your voice heard, LOUD and CLEAR; this is the only way to make the two countries come to their senses. Politis
Obviously you do not care about Greek Cypriots. Most Greeks do though. To them I applaud them. What were your family, right wing monarchists and coupists?(UNFanatic)

About Bulgaristan on User:Macedonia's talk page

I think Vergina is mocking one Macedonia's early edit comments, as well comments of other macedonian editors by showing certain pieces of history. FunkyFly 18:59, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

RFAR

I filed a request for arbitration for the naming conventions of the Macedonia related articles: Wikipedia:RFAR#Macedonia_naming_dispute. I have listed you as a party involved. Bitola 14:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

RFAR is a mechanism for dispute resolution. It is commited through the appropriate page where all involved parties can make statements and later the final decision (whether the request is accepted or rejected) is made by the Arbitration Committee. Bitola 17:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
RFAr does not deal with content disputes - they won't be helping us solve ours. Wikipedia:Arbitration is to deal with problematic users only (so far at least). We'll see what happens though. --Latinus 17:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm starting to feel frightened, because I created the portal, but I have no secret plot/agenda behind that, as far as I know:)) Lets see what so important you have to tell (by the way the arbitration case is not directly related to the portal, rather to the Macedonia disambiguation pages and the article about my country)Bitola 17:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

portal:Macedonia

This portal name, insults all Macedonians in Greece, and makes problem bigger. STOP FYROM's PROPAGANDA IN WIKIPEDIA.--Makedonas 11:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Epikinonia

Yinete na epikinoniso mazi su meso ilektroniku tahidromiu (to leo etsi paraxena ya na ine dinsoïto se aftus pu parakoluthun ti selida su - lipame). Prin kanis ti dilosi su iparhi kati simandiko pu prepi na su po :-) --Latinus 17:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Macedonia if you can. --Latinus 12:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

De tha psifisis! --Latinus 18:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Apandisa. --Latinus 18:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Image use

The instructions are at Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax. It is not the easiest thing in the world to get images "just right" in wiki syntax. You might want to try experimenting in your personal sandbox. I'll be happy to help out. User:Matia.gr is also very good with image syntax. Best of luck. Jkelly 18:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Ecumenical Patriarch

What you just removed as "racist nonsense" is in fact part of the Turkish law. It is stated in Britannica and every source that I can imagine. In fact it's common knowledge, unless of course you can prove otherwise. Miskin 12:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I replied to you in my talk page. Miskin 13:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I saw u got involved in the Ecumenical Patriarch article.i made a change,i guess u will help not to be removed.

about the GC in UK,better see how the other groups are also counted and then ask for the change of the number of the greeks.--Hectorian 14:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Poster Fyrom

ase tis fotografies me ta aytokolita, giati edo oi malakes synecheia afinoun tin entiposi oti den yoarchei i onomasia fyrom, etsi me poustia tis ebala uto soste na doun oi axristoi oti emeis etsi tous fonazoume kai etsi prepei. asta einai megali poustia me poniria krimenni na ta afisoume. katalabes? yugo65efi

"Philhellen" = "Greek Patriot"

Hi Politis. I saw your effort to respond to Septentrionalis in Talk:Greeks#Alexander the Great and thought I should throw in a little more data on the matter. For your reference, I have also added this information to Philhellenism so you can quickeasily direct there anyone else who thinks he is smart. ;-) NikoSilver 21:03, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Stop it

Stop your sarcasm. Neither I nor dab are going to accept recommendations about what historical linguistic works to read from someone who doesn't even know what "genetic" means in our field. Please don't edit things you know nothing about. Lukas (T.|@) 16:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

it's ok, I am not accusing you of teaming up with the anon. You just happened to find yourself arguing in the same vein as some anon troll that happened to turn up at the same time, but that is no fault of yours. Since I didn't switch to German, you should rather ask the anon to translate his outbursts, but I assure you, you are not missing much. dab (ᛏ) 22:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


Paraklisis

File, eimai Ellinas (opos kai esi fisika) kai xriazomai afti tin stigmi ti politimotati voithia sou.

  • 1.Stin Elliniki wiki kai sigekrimena, sto arthro: Makedonas, pou einai sxedon olo, diki mou dimiourgia kai tora iparxi ipopsifiotita gia diagrafi tou arthrou stin selida [[1]]

Se parakalo para poli, ean thelis vevea kai exis tin kalosini, na psifisis gia tin paramoni kai mi diagrafi tou arthrou. Sigekrimena stin selida [[2]] na psifisis os exis:

  • διατήρηση και να μπει το πρότυπο {{disputed}}. ας αφήσουμε όποιον θέλει να το προχωρήσει. --Onoma

Diladi diatirisi, ... kai to onoma sou, opos parapano!

Se parakalo para poli, ean thelis vevea kai exis tin kalosini, na psifisis gia tin paramoni kai mi diagrafi tou arthrou. Sigekrimena stin selida 21.Hellenische Sprachen na psifisis os exis:

  • Natürlich behalten --Onoma

Diladi , fisika diatirisi (=Natürlich 'behalten) kai to onoma sou, opos parapano!

Y.G. Ean thelis, mporis na metavivasis tin paraklisi mou, se alous filous kai empistous Ellines opos kai esi?

  • Parakalo pliri exemithia kai mistikotita! (Apefthinsou mono se poli empista atoma.) Efxxaristo!--Kamikazi2 13:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Islam in Greece

An thes parakoloutha mazi mou to parapano arthro. Kapoios elafra diestramenos typos prospathei na perasei stin wikipedia oti oi Tourkoi stin Ellada einai mia ftoxi kai katapiesmeni meionotita. Miskin 17:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know - maybe... --Latinus 18:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Epeigon (SOS)

Xriazome-aste ti voithia sou, giati apo oti eida kseris kalitera galika apo oti ego! Koita, to arthro afto exi protathi distixos, meta apo kapies diorthosis pou ekana, gia diagrafi: w:fr:Macédoine grecque.

  • Se parakalo voithise kai kane oti mporis gia na min diagrafi!!!! --84.164.207.72 19:17, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Imia/Kardak

Hi, I saw you added another map reference to the Imia/Kardak article. Since we apparently don't have an online image of this one, could you indicate by what means that map marks Imia as Greek? (Named "Imia"? Named using "nisos" vs. "ada"? Explicit attribution, e.g. "(Gr.)"? Boundary drawn through the water? Exact or approximate boundary?) If you have it, could you perhaps scan it, we could actually put a picture in the article. Thanks! Lukas (T.|@) 09:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. If you can make a gif from it, just go to Special:Upload, save it as "ImiaMap.gif" or something of the kind, and make sure you mark the source and include a tag for "fair use". I can do the rest if you like. Lukas (T.|@) 10:06, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Graeco-Armenian

what are you talking about? You were replacing a matter of fact article with completely irrelevant blather about alphabets and were rightly reverted. Your behaviour just there was borderline to vandalism, don't do that. dab (ᛏ) 17:58, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Φίλε Κώστα,

Προσπάθησε σε παρακαλώ να φανείς λίγο πιο διαλλακτικός, και άσε και καμιά κουβέντα να πέσει κάτω. Δεν τρέχει τίποτα, θα βρεθεί η άκρη, απλά θέλει σιγά-σιγά. Εννοώ: λόγω της καλλιέργειάς σου, είναι λογικό να κάνεις λογικά άλματα που οι υπόλοιποι απλά δεν μπορούν να παρακολουθήσουν. Θα εντυπωσιαστείς αν διαπιστώσεις πόσο αποτελεσματική είναι χρήση της "μαιευτικής". Πίστεψέ με, παρά το ότι συμφωνώ (περίπου) με το περιεχόμενο των αλλαγών που προτείνεις, νομίζω οτι έκανα το καλύτερο που μεσολάβησα σε αυτή την κουβέντα που είχε ξεφύγει, έστω και αν σε αδίκησα σε κάποιο μικρό βαθμό. Κοινώς, προσπάθησε να μην "τα παίρνεις στο κρανίο". Ειδικά με χρήστες που μπορούν (λόγω υπόβαθρου) να βοηθήσουν να μήν αδικούνται οι Έλληνες σε αυτή την εγκυκλοπαίδεια (και το έχουν κάνει στο παρελθόν). NikoSilver (T) @ (C) 16:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The bridge height allows for unobstructed navigation through the strait.
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The bridge height allows for unobstructed navigation through the strait.
Διαβασα τη ΜΑΤΙΑ. Νομίζω λείπει, οπότε στα λέω εγώ:
  1. Αριστερά στην οθόνη σου έχεις ένα toolbox
  2. Κλικάρισε Upload file
  3. Επέλεξε τη θέση του αρχείου με το "Αναζήτηση"
  4. ΠΡΟΣΟΧΗ: Διάλεξε στο κουτάκι Licencing τη σωστή δικαιολογία για το copyright που αρμόζει στην περίπτωση. Για δικές σου φωτογραφίες (αν δεν έχεις φωτογραφίσει κάτι που έχει copyrights), συνήθως βάζεις "PD (self made) donate to public domain. Release all rights."
  5. Γράψε στο edit summary κάτι του στιλ: Photo taken by my personal digicam while passing under the Rio-Antirio bridge.
  6. Πάτα upload file και περίμενε μέχρι να ανέβει.
  7. Μετά, μπορείς όπου κάνεις edit, να γράψεις τον κώδικα που θα δεις εδώ αν κάνεις edit το σχόλιό μου. Το ξαναγράφω, αλλά χωρίς τα brackets: Image:Rio_Antirio_Bridge_by_sunset.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The bridge height allows for unobstructed navigation through the strait.

ΥΓ. Καλό θα ήταν να διαβάσεις και τις σύντομες οδηγίες που γράφω στον Μακεδόνα για άλλα θέματα. NikoSilver (T) @ (C) 18:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Bouboulina

Hi Politis,

Which pictures is the one where she is on her ship, pointing to the horizon? Thank you.  :) ~Mallaccaos, 17 March 2006

PAO/PAOK

PAO, Panathinaikos, pws alliws na to pw :) Esy?--Avg 14:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Egw pantws thn Kyriakh pou mas erxetai ginomai PAOK eyxaristws :) Pou les tous boreious geitones tous katalabainw mexri ena shmeio giati etsi pou tous exoun kanei plysh egkefalou tosa xronia einai logiko na einai mperdemenoi. Emeis thn plhrwnoume bebaia alla pou tha paei tha brethei mia aksioprephs lysh.--Avg 15:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

FYROM

Το θέμα έχει φουντώσει στο τωκ. Το άρθρο έχει προστατευτεί από αλλαγές. Χρειάζεται η συμμετοχή σου.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 15:34, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Μπορείς, αν θες, να συμμετέχεις στη συζήτηση. Διάβασε ποια είναι η Ελληνική θέση και περίληψη της κουβέντας μέχρι το τέλος εδώ.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 15:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Μακάρι νά'ξερα. Θα κάνω διευκρινιστικές ερωτήσεις στο τωκ. Παρακολούθα.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 11:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

- OLOI FYROM STIN PSIFOFORIA ([3] )!!!! --Asteraki 13:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Y.S. Signomi gia tin foto! --Asteraki 14:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Σχετικά με τα παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό το σχόλιο και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Άμεσα.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 16:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Se eixa parexigisei ligo stin arxi...Mallon ftaiei i kontra pou eixame gia tous Ellines sti Bretania. anyway, i apologise:) --Hectorian 17:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Den nomizo oti eprepe na katigoris tin Servia opos ekanes. Tha kanis tus Servus na mas katapsifisun. Edwy (talk) 17:50, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

E ma... de blepw na th glytwnoun oi trixes sto kefali mou me daytous...--Avg 18:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Πολίτη, νομίζω δεν παρατήρησες καλά το σχόλιο που σου έκανα παραπάνω. Κοίτα σε παρακαλώ ποιές είναι εκείνες οι παραλλαγές που βγαίνουν μπροστά σε ψήφους, διότι μας πάνε για σφάξιμο χωρίζοντας τις ψήφους μας σε παρόμοιες εκδοχές, ενώ όλοι εκείνοι έχουν μόνον μία. Πράξε αναλόγως.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 20:08, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό και αυτό και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Thanks. --Enas Filos 21:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Χρόνια Πολλά και καλά! Μή χάνεσαι, ρίχνε καμιά ματιά στην ψηφοφορία...  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 15:45, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Tsekara kai den exw. Xronia polla kai 3anasteilto.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 18:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for your note

First off, Wikipedia is not censored for minors. I can swear where I like. I don't do it often, largely in frustration. Respecting diversity doesn't mean kow-towing to nationalists (like the BNP). I'm not suggesting that you are a BNP supporter. But thats where the National in the British National Party comes from — their nationalism. I am, as you can see virulently anti-nationalism in whatever form it may take. That includes British-English-Irish-Greek-Welsh-Scottish-Macedonian-Bulgarian-American-Serbian-French-Spanish-Russian-Croatian-Turkish-Armenian-etc. The list could get on, but I will save you the bother of filling up your talk page. I am being dismissive of nationalism because I think its really crazy. By the way, are you talking about my response to Niko or on my talk page? As a further point, I don't see where I say what mark I will get. I say that if I gave it to nationalist professors I'd get a bad mark. I don't go any further than that. Besides you have no idea what is my idea of a good mark or a bad mark. My mark range from my last degree was between 26 and 75 percent. I'd be willing to bet significant money that I won't get 26% for this essay, everything else is open to interpretation. As regards asking my professors for their opinion, I will be happy with seeing their comments on my mark sheet, which I will post to you if you so desire. The names of my professors were dropped for ironic purposes which you may have missed. Many Greek nationalists like Trudgill for his writings on Arvanitika, if you still don't get the irony, let me know and I'll explain in more detail. :) PS. The link to my essay is here, I'd welcome your sincere comments — nationalist rhetoric withstanding. - FrancisTyers 13:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, they are very well received and appreciated :) In response to some of them:
  • I agree, the text is a bit disjointed. I'm not a very good writer unfortunately, despite considerable effort I just can't write clean, clear prose. I agree, there is some problem with the use of terminology, I had meant to clean it up, consider the references to Serbo-Croatian and Serbian too, I'm not sure if I am entirely consistent there either.
  • Regarding dates, they will have been taken from other papers on the subject. If there are specific examples and you have time I would be interested to know — but don't feel obliged :)
  • That quote was taken from the Topolinjska paper. I think I read it in other papers too though. I will have a look around for other references and let you know.
  • I think I did note that the standard was based on the Western central dialects, and I definately made a note that the lexical choices of the standard attempted to "purify" out Bulgarisms and Serbisms. I would be interested in reading papers with regard to the imposition. Unfortunately most of the papers I found (the ones listed in the references — and others) said that the standard was welcomed (with varying degrees of enthusiasm) by the population. This is from seemingly non-involved linguists, and some non-linguists. The Friedman papers are very comprehensive in this regard.

Basically the paper is pretty much reliant on my research (the references). To start off with it was hard to find papers at all, but I managed to find a fair few in the end.

I haven't had my mark back yet, but I will let you know when I do. Many thanks again, and my apologies if I came off a bit strong earlier. As I said, we all get frustrated :) - FrancisTyers 17:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I can understand why you wouldn't. The same goes for any academic — User:172 for example. There is always the problem that what you say will get back to you. Sometimes I think about that before I say something, sometimes I don't and you get what you saw this morning. Those are my sincere convictions, but if this wasn't the internet I would probably be arguing them in a much more reserved manner. - FrancisTyers 17:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Dystyxws OLOI tous edw sthn WP xrhsimopoioun ta idia kai ta idia synexeia. Des an 8es th lista pou pare8esa ston ma8hth sou. Strabos h' oxi, se kanei na strabwneis teleiws! Perimene twra se ligo na deis poion 8ewreis kalon typo...  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 18:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Kalynyxta file Kwstanth. Des thn syzhthsh tou "kalou" xrhsth prin koimh8eis gia na katalabeis ti 8a pei strabomara! (egw exasa 1 kilo! eimai skylos (kai) otan kanw diaita)  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 18:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
O "kalos" xrhsths ekane parabiash twn triwn epanaforwn otan prospa8ouse na perasei oti kapoios anhke sthn ekklhsia tous 1000 xronia prin ayth idry8ei!!!(edw) Timorh8hke me dyo meres fragh...  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 13:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Kwstanth, sto List of unrecognized countries, nomizw prepei na toniseis oti to Nakhichevan den einai full kratos (esbhses to subnational) giati ypoti8etai oti anhkei sto Azermpaitzan. Epishs, nomizw oti prepei na pros8eseis thn lexh 'monon' prin apo thn Tourkia. Des an 8es th syzhthsh mou me thn Ambi pou ekane to prohgoumeno edit sth selida ths. Sta ypoloipa symfwnw kai epay3anw.  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 15:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Geia sou kai se sena! kakws tous edwsa enan epipleon aiwna stin perioxi(5th):p. fainetai oti eimaste upoxrewmenoi na tous thumizoume tin istoria! eleos! as tin diavasoun monoi tous! --Hectorian 18:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

He, ki egw nomizw kala tou thn psiloeipa sto prwto sxolio fth selida mou e?  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 20:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Voithia... ( peri tou xarti prokeite... koita )

Edw (peri tou xarti prokeite...) kai kane epanafora ean to xana epanaferi, ego den mporo nato epanaferw distixws!!! --Asteraki 21:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


Thanx for the language atitude

OK, about the map.Regarding some the map shows only RoM in Macedonia(region), to others is offensive (to you to), but as you said we are here to inform. The map is in Republic of Macedonia article, there is also a map in Macedonia region article that shows the states borders and the region. I think that the map should stay.  ? --Vlatko 13:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Category Deletion

Please visit [4] and weigh in!  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 18:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Θα πας στο μαγαζί? (κοίτα την απάντησή μου στο σχόλιό σου στη σελίδα μου)...  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 01:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Ρε συ θα πάς στο μαγαζί τελικά?? Οι υπογραφές σου είναι εδώ!  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 12:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Xa, den epilegeis kamia monoxrwmh kalytera?  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 13:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

stan lazaridis

That does not say anything,its normal they will say he is greek, you have to understand that in greece there was and still is a large macedonian community, the greek government is denying that and calls them simply Greeks.

the thing with greek and greek australian teams trying to get him, says nothing too, cause he played for several Macedonian-australian soccer teams even before the greeks ever had heared of him. nobody seems to answer my questions, 1-if he was greek, (greeks are known to be very nationalistic just like any other balkan nation) then why would he play for Macedonian football clubs?? Why would he wear a shirt with the macedonian vergina flag (yellow on red, not gold on blue) on it???? 2-If he was Greek than why would he Speak Macedonian (slavic, as you call it) to his parents???

the email i got from the president of macedonian football club Stirling Lions and the fact that he played for Macedonian clubs, and that his family comes from Voden (wich still untill today has a significant macedonian community) are so far the best sources! i am please asking you to give me a break here, he is a Macedonian from the region wich today belongs to Greece. --Makedonia 18:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

u said: "As for playing both for Australian Greek and Slav Macedonian teams, a person can feel both Greek and Slav Macedonian - in fact, many do and some have suffered at the hands of Slav Macedonian extremists (and vice versa, of course)."

Thats why, this version of GR MANOS is the best, i will accept it and please you should to, and let us end our battles on Stan Lazaridis.--Makedonia 19:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#Poll!  NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 21:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Arvanites (again??!!!)

Hi Politis, thanks for your input at Talk:Arvanites, but I'm afraid your thread with Albanau and Telex has only served to confuse matters further. You were talking as if there was a proposal to characterise the Arvanites as an "Albanian minority". No-one said such a thing, not even Albanau, that's a red herring. I'm considering removing the whole two threads at the bottom, as troll bait, so we can all get back to working on the real issues. Would you mind a lot? Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Question

Geia. Exo mia apli erotisi. Nomizeis oti oi Arbanites itan Ellines; Eav i apantisi sou einai "nai" tote apantise auto to munhma. Exo simantikes plirofories pou mporoun na se voithisoun. Eav i apantisi omos einai "oxi" tote agnohse auto to munhma. Avtio. Deucalionite 15:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

202.74.160.138 (talk • contribs)

When it is an obvious case of continuous Wikipedia:Vandalism and a block is needed, one can take it to WP:AIV. Sorry I wasn't around to help. Jkelly 16:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Margaritis calling

Thanks for your comments Politis, Kali Mera apo Londhino, kai ego eime edho, ine poli zesti simera exo edho. I've added in the meanwhile my response. Greetings from SW1 and come over if you wish to User_talk:Apostolos_Margaritis#Vlachs_who_petitioned_the_Sultan_that_Thessaly_should_not_become_a_part_of_Greece for more guaranteed controversy and uninhibited talk about Vlachs and Greek things. Apostolos Margaritis 09:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

That impersonator-sockpuppet

Hi Politis, what's your thoughts about that new sockpuppet of Erdogan Cevher, NikosPolitis (talk • contribs)? You think he's trying to impersonate you? I reported him yesterday at WP:ANI, but no admin has yet taken action on him. If you feel bothered by the guy, you might add something there, I think cases like that get indef-blocked routinely. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing it out. I am convinced that NikosPolitis (talk • contribs) is a sockpuppet using (abusing?) the name of two bonafide contributors - one of them being myself. I would be greatful if administrators considered blocking this suspected sockpuppet. Politis 11:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Reported at ANI again and at WP:RFCU. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, if that other "bonafide contributor" is implied to be me, then I seriously object the insulting characterisation! :NikoSilver: 13:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Istoriya Slavyanobolgarskaya

Hi! I saw you've added the text of Istoriya Slavyanobolgarskaya to Talk:Saint Paisius of Hilendar. Now, the book itself is in the public domain due to its age, but what you've posted is a modernized and adapted version in modern Bulgarian and I'm not sure if it's copyrighted (since translations generally are, but this is not exactly a translation). Also, it would be more appropriate at Wikisource if not copyrighted. Todor→Bozhinov 12:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, 1914 is the year of publication — in most cases the copyright is determined by the year of the author's death + some time (70 or 100 years usually). It's a bit of a difficult case really, I think we'd better only leave a link (there's one in the Istoriya Slavyanobolgarskaya article and not the whole text on Wikipedia, so the site that hosts the text would bear the copyright responsibility, not us. If the original text is available somewhere online, though, it would be a great addition to Wikisource, but I doubt that.
I'm always happy to see foreigners interested in the culture and history of my nation. There's indeed a lot of work to do on Wikipedia to cover our nation better, but it's like that with many other subjects — we'll sooner or later have a reasonable coverage if we roll up our sleeves. Todor→Bozhinov 13:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Check your e-mail in a few minutes. --Tēlex 12:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Check again. --Tēlex 13:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, your skills (as defined on your profile) would come in handy in the renovation of the article Greeks, which IMO is a mess. --Tēlex 14:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Mother ,,Bulgaria"

The daily Greek csenophobia towards Macedonians makes you say this, regardless to the letters in which he speaks of independent Macedonia. Bomac 16:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Ibrahim Rugova speaks of an independent Kosovo. According to your logic he is an ethnic Kosovar despite the fact that he has declared himself an Albanian (just like Delchev delcared himself Bulgarian). Konstantine, des to ilektroniko su tahidromio. --Tēlex 16:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes. Rugova wants an independent Kosova/o. Would you say, Bomac, that therefore Rugova is not an Albanian?
  • And no, I am not xenophobic against Macedonians (how can I be xenophobic towards Greeks?!?). Perhaps you mean towards the Slavonic Macedonians. Again, no; in fact I really like them because they are spirited, they have a great sense of humour (more Mediterranean than, hem-hem, Bulgarian), a unique history and I hope they cross the border to visit Greece as often as possible and feel welcome there - irrespective of the Macedonian issue.
  • One thing bothers me: they have not taken full responsibility of the duties and implications that go with the name 'Macedonia'. But that is not a reason to dislike anyone. There are many ignorant historians in Greece and other parts of the world, but there is no reason to dislike the Greeks and the other parts of the world! Politis 15:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Boris na prosehis to Turkish minority in Greece. Alles kaltsomarionetes ehun erthi. --Tēlex 12:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 22:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Zamanfou up for deletion for the 3rd time

Thought I'd give you a heads-up on developments with regards to this unencyclopedic entry, which is up for deletion again.

Sorry, but I really do not feel qualified to pass any judgement (and this is not a case of zamanfoutismos) Politis 14:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:mulcine

Einai pio katw sto arthro, kai malista stin idia paragrapho, stin arxi! oso mporw (kai elpizw genika na me voithisete), den tha afisw to onoma afto stin prwti seira tou dikou mas arthrou, an den yparxei to diko mas, sto antistoixo diko tous (pistevw na katalaves ti ennow:)...). kai as erthei kapoios admin na me rwtisei giati!!! aftos sigoura kati efage.... kai mallon itan ligmeno:p --Hectorian 17:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Maps etc

Ethnographic Map of the Balkans by E. Stanford (1877)
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Ethnographic Map of the Balkans by E. Stanford (1877)

Do you know which is my favorite ethnic map? This one ;-) I just found it and uploaded it - Alleluia! --Tēlex 19:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Well

I would agree that the situation is rather unsatisfactory, given the lack of reliable sources. Normally I wouldn't include it except for a direct quotation, but I think it is reasonable to include it given the lack of other sources in a footnote. - FrancisTyers · 15:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/downloads/library/Sfetas01.pdf - FrancisTyers · 17:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The book gives "Dates", "Places" and "People" — is it comprehensive? - FrancisTyers · 17:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from making personal attacks, I understand that you can get quite enthused in the discussion, but please try and remain civil at all times. - FrancisTyers · 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I was asking if it was comprehensive from an inclusive point of view, not from a details point of view. Does it include all mentions, or perhaps might they have left some inconvienient ones out, or maybe they just didn't know about some, there was a war on you know, they could be forgiven for not being comprehensive. - FrancisTyers · 17:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

removing offensive attack and borderline threat by Politis 17:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)] FearÉIREANN\(caint) 00:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC) Added diff link, don't think it borders to threat.:NikoSilver: 13:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Civility

Regarding this edit: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --InShaneee 20:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Macedonia (terminology)

Megales pros8hkes sto terminology. Des linguistics kai demogrphics kai pes an 8es kai th gnwmh sou sto Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology). Koitaze epishs kai kana grammatokibwtio kamia fora. Eyxaristw. :NikoSilver: 13:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

See:

  • Afto kai kane anastrofi se parakalw. Prokeite gia episimo egrafo apo tin Romeo-Katholiki Ekklisia, to opio kai exw sto prosopiko mou arxio (pio katharotero gia anagnosi)!

To sigekrimeno dokumento Epistola Enciclica, einai mia Papiki Egkiklios (EGRECIAE VIRTUTIS) kai taftochrona i anagnwrisi (tis 31-12-1980, apo ton Papa Ioanni ton B') tis Romeo-Katholikis Ekklisias, sto prosopo ton Kirilloy kai Methodiou, aderfwn, Ellinwn, ek tis perioxis Thessalonikis (Cirillo e Metodio, fratelli, greci, nativi di Tessalonica...) ... os Pateres tis Europis. --Asteraki 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Your impersonator

Hi Politis, you might be interested to know that your impersonator User:NikosPolitis is again on the loose. Let's watch him, if he resumes doing anything disruptive, give me a shout and we'll get him blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Macedonia (terminology)

We're almost done for the FA status, but there is too little time to deal with some final opjections, mainly in citation. Your help is needed, see talk! :NikoSilver: 15:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

2 Polls that may be of interest...

Hey, kindly check:

Thanks. :NikoSilver: 01:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

"TurkishHorde"

Greetings: I blocked that pest last night [5] but it looks like he continued to rant on his talk page. It's an amusing rant, almost all illogic and untruths, and I smiled and left it alone. Let me know if he bothers you any more. Oh and yes, it's pretty here, but probably not as pretty as Greece -- we do have a similar coastline and climate; someday I hope to get there. Oh well, the grass is always greener elsewhere.... happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 15:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Costandi

You hate the ...abbreviated form ("C.o.s.t.a.") or you're not called Costandis either? :NikoSilver: 16:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Quoted as saying?

I rephrased the Pangalos quote and put it within context (giving the statements, in a manner of speaking, the benefit of a doubt, as he did not make it perfectly clear whether he was refering to Turks in general, or the Turkish establishment in particular (as seen in my sources, some Greek media concluded the former). I have also added other, contradictory statements he made in the past, with regard to the same matter. Is that homework enough? 212.251.124.218 12:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Umm, quoted as saying implies that the statements were contested, whereas they were not. I am not going to revert this ; but I am concerned it might sound a bit misleading. 212.251.124.218 12:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Balkan Communist Federation

Nice edit. Thanks, I think this would make quite an interesting article. If you come accross any references (particularly papers that treat it in detail) I would be very interested to know about them. Regards, - FrancisTyers · 15:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok cool, please add away :) I'm supposed to be working on my dissertation, but Wikipedia is a fearsome procrastination tool! :) - FrancisTyers · 16:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Μεταξύ βουτιάς και ηλιοθεραπείας

Είχες γράψει αυτό:

Will get back to you tomorrow. Meanwhile, it is published in English. It reflects 'twisted history' promoting 'official encouragement' (VMRO DMNE founding manifesto, its 1990s electoral campaings, etc...). As for Tsarknias article, I see your point about the BBC (or CBS, ABC, etc); their stories do nor reflect policy. But if they kept pushing regularly the same style of historical interpretation without presenting any other side, then it would be considered policy. That is what the Macedonian Times does (or did if it is still published) on every single issue. And as a journal founded under Yugoslav, state owned principles, it was (is?) semi-governmental if not governmental because Nova Makekonija certainly was until 2003. Politis 15:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

...στο Talk:Macedonia (terminology). Μπορείς να εμπλουτίσεις τα κείμενα? Ο Φράνσις (κι εγώ) θέλει να διαβάσει περισσότερο για να πειστεί (όχι εγώ). Κάνε τον κόπο σε παρακαλώ... :NikoSilver: 15:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

lol, for Nikola's comment above;). min amfivalleis gia ton Mywayyy... des to sxolio tou sto telos tis selidas mou. --Hectorian 16:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Revert war budding over use of FYROM in Wikipedia

Again (sigh). Seems like a user has made it his personal crusade [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] to replace all references to FYROM with plain "Macedonia", even to the point of challenging those who disagree to a revert war, which, as he pompously declared, he rarely ever loses [11]. A thoroughly disappointing show by an editor I had more respect for ; giving you a heads up in case you are interested. Porfyrios 15:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


Invitation to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy

Hi there! I've noticed that you've edited articles pertaining to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I wanted to extend an invitation to you to join the WikiProject dedicated to organizing and improving articles on the subject, which can be found at: WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. This WikiProject was begun because a need was perceived to raise the level of quality of articles on Wikipedia which deal with the Eastern Orthodox Church.

You can find information on the project page about the WikiProject, as well as how to join and how to indicate that you are a member of the project. Additionally, you may be interested in helping out with our collaboration of the month. I hope you'll consider joining and thank you for your contributions thus far! —A.S. Damick talk contribs 13:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


Licorice controversy

Point conceded... information is important, however... where would you suggest I move it, in order to guarantee that it is still easily available?

LOL. Sorry, but this reads like a wide-eyed wind up. Here we are having a gi-enormous debate over a region of Europe, and someone comes along with a string of licorice :-) - perhaps you can appreciate the situation. Great news if true, though. How about Macedonia (region)? Politis 19:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, OK, this has to be an emerging hoax.Just looked at licorice and it mentions a Alvin Hosenfeld. There is no evidence that he existed other than as an entry in wikipedia. So this is how a hoax emerges? Politis 19:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Good thinking, you should include that View at the RfC. - FrancisTyers · 12:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Turkish names

Hi Politis. I absolutely agree with your views. I find quite apalling the fact that Turkified names are used in Greek islands and cities in the first sentence. They should go to history section and only when there is a historic and cultural significance. For instance Xanthi article could be such a canditate due to its Muslim population. Anyway, I ve been trying to correct this totally unacceptable thing not without losses; I ve been banned as a user. But now a page created for a resolution is available and i m looking forward solving this dispute. Your help would be most valuable.Cheers Mywayyy88.218.47.184 12:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Απ' ό,τι θυμάμαι, ξεκίνησε πριν κάποιους μήνες... και από εμάς και από αυτούς. Τα ελληνικά ονόματα δεν υπήρχαν σε άρθρα για μεγάλες τουρκικές πόλεις όμως. Παρόλα αυτά, επέμεναν να προσθέτουν τα τουρκικά ονόματα μέχρι και στην Κρήτη και στην Αθήνα, αλλά ούτε λόγος για το ελληνικό όνομα στην Κωνσταντινούπολη! Μετά ήρθε ο Mywayyy που τα έσβηνε από τα ελληνικά άρθρα, δηλώνοντας ότι θα συνεχίσει ώσπου το ελληνικό να μπει στην Πόλη. Εκδιώχθηκε... Επέμενα ιδιαίτερα να μην μπει το τουρκικό όνομα στην Κομοτινή(αν κάποιο άρθρο θα έπρεπε να το έχει είναι αυτό!), κάνοντας παραλληλισμό με την Πόλη. Μέχρι στιγμής έχει μόνο το ελληνικό, προφανώς γιατί οι Τούρκοι δεν θέλησαν να ρισκάρουν την Ιστανμπουλ... Μετά από συμβουλή κάποιου (όχι του Mywayyy), πρόσθεσα τα ονόματά μας ως και την Μαλάτεια... Η αλήθεια είναι πως το τωρινό πρόβλημα δεν το δημιούργησε ο Mywayyy. Αυτός ήρθε αφού προφανώς είδε ότι τα τουρκικά άρθρα υφίστανται αλλεπάλληλα ριβέρτ από ανώνυμους και IPs... Ενυγουέη (i always wanted to write it in greek:p)... i will make some proposals in Wikipedia: Greek/Turkish naming conventions later. at the moment, i want to see what perhaps somebody else has to say first. Τα λέμε --Hectorian 15:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Diaforoi anomynoi kai IPs, opos legame kai stin selida tou Aldux. apla, me ton Mywayyy, to provlima egine pio 'emphanes' gia kapoious... Isos eftase i stigmi na luthei... --Hectorian 15:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, as promised, I've now written down a sketch of my "inclusionist" position on the new discussion page at Wikipedia:Greek/Turkish naming conventions. Your input will be appreciated. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Politis, are you going to enter your opinion on the Wikipedia: Greek/Turkish naming conventions discussion? I haven't forgotten you were voicing some concerns about using foreign names in the lead sentence. As you may have noticed, currently the survey is dominated by opinions favouring a more liberal approach to using the lead sentence (including my own). But I wouldn't want it to look as if any objections of yours had been overlooked in the process. So I thought you might want to make your voice heard before the consensus solidifies. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Turkish-EU relations

Hi, I changed the wording slightly, hope it is better. Thanks, --A.Garnet 12:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


Your edit to TRNC

Hello. I noticed your recent edit on the TRNC page. I would say that the text that was there prior to the adding of the citation and your re-wording mean the same thing in reality. Its not a big thing and your edit is perfectly fine, I just wanted to let you know why I added the citation without re-wording the article. Adam777 16:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Article

Yep, I really hope our government will make the recognition of the ethnic Macedonians' Bulgarian history and the discontinuance of Macedonist propaganda a prerequisite for the Republic of Macedonia's EU membership, and I'm strongly for vetoing it in case they refuse to stop with the propaganda.

As for the article, I don't particularly like the author's view. He seems to present this as some kind of mutual misrepresentation of history and a matter that should be basically ingnored and left unresolved for the sake of stability and progress in the region, calling Kalfin's declaration meanly a political trick to gain support. I disagree with that and believe this progress and stability can't be achieved when there's such large-scale anti-Bulgarian (and anti-Greek) propaganda in a whole country. Stability can't be achieved when your neighbour is teaching their children bullshit, including that four other countries are occupying territory that "rightfully" belongs to the ethnic Macedonians.

It is absolutely unthinkable that the Republic of Macedonia can join the EU while continuing with this, and I'd be totally opposed to their membership if it doesn't stop. Of course, I'd be more than happy to welcome them when they drop this. Todor→Bozhinov 17:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Greek and Turkish named places)

Prosopika pistevo oti tha mporousame na katalixoume se sumfonia... To mono pou me 'anysixei' einai oti wikipedians tis geitonos, parolo pou gnorizoun gia ti syzitisi, den einai prothumoi na paroun meros s'aftin... --Hectorian 12:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I Also agree with you Politis. Under no circumstances must we add Turkish names in Greek articles and vice versa in the opening line or opening paragraph, but only in history or etymology section. I would only accept that in special articles for instance Xanthi where there is a Muslim population so Turkish name might be still used. Of course places like Istanbul, Izmir and other Turkish cities that were founded by Greeks should contain the Greek name in the opening line.Filika Mywayyy88.218.55.194 12:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Αν δεν συμμετάσχουν και αυτοί, το αποτέλεσμα δεν θα είναι αποδεκτό, και συνεπώς δεν θα υπάρχει επίσημη πολιτική για το θέμα. Άρα, δεν θα μείνει κάνενα τουρκικό όνομα σε ελληνικό άρθρο. Και κανείς δεν θα μπορεί να μου πει και τίποτα, μιας και δεν έχω παραβιάσει ποτέ κανένα νόμο, και ούτε και τότε θα έχω παραβιάσει... Αν νομίζουν ότι με το να μην παίρνουν μέρος στη συζήτηση, θα μπορούν να έχουν το όνομά τους, π.χ. στη Χίο, και όχι το δικό μας στην Πόλη, είναι βαθειά νυχτωμένοι! Αν θέλουν έντιτ-γουόρς, θα τους έχουν (άλλωστε, θα πρέπει να μάθουν να κάνουν διάλογο...). Όσο για τον Νικόλα... αν αυτή τη στιγμή χαίρεται το Αιγαίο, ζηλεύω φρικτά!!!:p. --Hectorian 12:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Ο Νίκος πιστεύω κάνει τώρα αυτό. (Μην ανησυχείτε, θα είναι αυτός που στέκεται πίσω, όχι αυτός που κρέμεται μπροστά.) Όσο για τα έντιτ-γουόρς, μην ξεχνάτε αυτό που έγραφα για πόντους και φασολάδες στη λεγόμενη Πρόταση-μην-είσαι-μαλάκας. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hectorian min anisixis re c. Opios thelei as simetasxei stin sizitisi. Ego eipa kai ston FPS oti apofasistei tha tirithi apo tin meria mou. An tora Tourkoi users arxisoun na vgazoun ellinika onomata apo Tourkika arthra tote den tha meinei oute ena Tourkiko onoma se elliniko arthro. Kai exo apodeixei pos boro na to kano auto poli kala:)..an kai me kostos.Mywayyy88.218.48.205 13:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Και οι τρεις σας, σοβαρά τώρα: αυτό που λέτε για tit-for-tat edit wars θα ήταν απαράδεκτο, θα'ταν κλασσική περίπτωση POINT και θα σας μπλόκαραν αμέσως και με το δίκαιο τους, αν το κάνατε. Σας το λέω φιλικά, που κι εγώ συμφωνώ ότι οι Ελλ. ονομασίες πρέπει και βέβαια να είναι στα Τούρκικα άρθρα. Μην το σκέφτεστε καν δηλαδή. Και εσύ Μywayyy, και μόνο που μιλάς για τέτοιου είδους συμπεριφορά σημαίνει πως δε θα ξεμπλοκαριστείς ποτέ. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

τρεις? Which τρεις? Can we start counting again? One, err... Politis 13:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Συγνώμη, βλέπω τώρα πως δεν είπες εσύ ότι συμφωνείς με αυτά που λέγανε οι άλλοι δύο εδώ πάνω. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Exeis dikio FPS. Paidia ginetai na mou kanete mia xari giati o Aldux einai kollimenos? Pigeno sto First World arthro na diorthoso to aparadekto gegonos na grafei alla auto to arthro kai alla to Developed Country arthro kai ekeinos sinexizei na to diorthonei sto lathos!! Tragikos tipos. Sto deutero arthro pou einai kai to sosto, leei pos I Kipros px den theoreitai apo IMF World Bank kai CIA san aneptigmeno kratos eno sto proto arthro leei to aditheto kai prepei na figi apo ekei. Episis vazo enan pio euanagnosto xarti kai o tipos ton vgazei. Rixte mia matia. Kai na fandastite oti to atomo me katigorei oti den kano useful edits!! LOL Mywayyy88.218.48.205 13:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Aldux is right. The article is fine as is, I personally like the other map better too, and the information about Cyprus you're removing is well sourced (follow the link). We've been tolerating you taking part in the naming debate, but as long as you're banned you have no business messing with other articles, even if you think you're ever so right. Your behaviour just shows you aren't mature enough to get unbanned and stick to the rules. Sorry. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

FPS, prospathisa na se proseggiso oxi gia kanena allo logo alla epeidi (mallon?) eisai ellinas alla telika eisai eristikos. Opote an eisai esi mia ego tha eimai 100. Ase pou den fenetai na katalavaineis ti akrivos paizei. POLITIS esi boreis na to tsekareis auto? Enw sto Developed country emfanizei sosta ti lista me tis aneptigmenes xores xoris tin Kipro pou exigei giati den tin exei, sto allo arthro First World tin exei...dhl exei ginei lathos. Episis exei enan xarti pou den fenonde kala oi aneptigmenes xores kai prospathisa na ton allaxo. To vasiko omos einai oti iparxoun diaforetikes info gia dio idia themata se dio diaforetika arthra. Kai ola auta ta kanei enas kollimeno atomaki.Check it out plz:)Mywayyy88.218.48.205 14:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Just by reading FPS contributions, I would suggest that he is more of a Ρωμιός and a Hellenist, than a Greek, i.e. inclulcated with a certain Greekness due paideia, not ancestry. Anyway, this is mostly an anoymous site and we could all be Tibetan monks dreaming we are wikieditors... Politis 14:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Just for the record, I've outed myself earlier in this forum as a Celtovandalosilingovenedopolonofrancosaxocheruskan, hence a barbarian. If I'm also a Tibetan monk, I must be rather fast asleep right now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I hope you have a good explanation

... for this edit: [12]. ←Humus sapiens ну? 06:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Does your message mean that even given the diff of your own edit, you are still unable to figure out or explain what you were doing there? ←Humus sapiens ну? 21:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Spam from Atatürk page

Dear Politis.

From previous edits of yours that I have seen, I consider you as a serious editor. So I was quite surprised to see you insert a deeply racist, very primitive and vulgar link to the Atatürk page. Are you aware of the content of the link you inserted? Bertilvidet 17:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Balkan

It is... in Bulgarian :) The "official" name is Stara Planina, and it's informally called "the Balkan". We call the peninsula Balkani(te), so it's not confusing. I'll be expanding Apriltsi a little, but I think I'll be adding a whole lot of new info to the Troyan Monastery article :) Todor→Bozhinov 13:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Details

Geia Sou Politis. You asked me whether I'm interested to add some personal details in my profile. As I'm a new member I'm still learning how everything works, so maybe later.

Re: Details

Gia sou Politi, Μετά από αρκετή προσπάθεια κατάφερα να αλλάξω την σελίδα. Πως κάνουν ρεβερτ για να μπορέσω να την διατηρήσω? Ευχαριστώ.

Ναί, μεσα από την συζήτηση στο ταλκ παραθέτω τεκμήρια φθάνω σε΄ένα αποτέλεσμα καθώς οι αντίπαλοί μου σταματούν να διαφωνούν αφού κάθε τους επιχείρημα αντιμετωπίζεται. Κάνω αλλαγές σύμφωνα πάντα με την συζήτηση, και μετά από λίγο κάποιος κάνει ρεβερτ έτσι απλά. Ποιος έχει δικαίωμα να παγώσει ενα μέρος (εστω τις 3 πρώτες γραμμές εισαγωγής) και πώς μπορώ να μιλήσω σε αυτό το άτομο? Να συζητήσω μαζί του και με όσους Τούρκους θα θέλουν να συμμετάσχουν. Σε ευχαριστώ για την βοήθεια-όπως καταλαμβαίνεις είμαι καινούργιος. angelossts@yahoo.com

Talk:Macedonia (terminology)#Poll

...you know the drill! :-) •NikoSilver• 10:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Just fishin...

...Like the bait? -> Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Greece#Members •NikoSilver• 22:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment

I just put a new post on Greco-Turkish relations.. There was an edit conflict...Baristarim 16:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

It was about the rename, I put my post only ten minutes after you said you were OK with the name, have a look and tell me what you think. regards Baristarim 21:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

η αλήθεια είναι πως

I'm a quarter of a Vlach, my father's mother, but i don't understand a SINGLE word... who knows, maybe I'll learn at some point :) Guitardemon666 16:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

nah dude

no way dude, i know i'm pure macedonian, no interracial stuff... i know i said i'm a quarter of a vlach but she was actually born to vlach parents whose parents and parents' parents were all born in macedonia, and lived in macedonia, just as my grandmother, so she had no affiliation with anything greek, and actually she hated greeks, i'm happy i didn't get any of that characteristic of hers :) you must have misread - my father's mom, not my mother's dad... and no, all of my grandparents are dead. greetings Guitardemon666 16:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you.--Yannismarou 07:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

By the way, welcome to the program! I didn't have the chance to welcome you earlier.--Yannismarou 07:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

RE: The pic: Liqenas or Pustec coat of arms with the "sun"

I found that pic by googling for the municipality Liqenas or Pustec in what we call Mala Prespa (in greek: Mikri Prespa, but the part which is in Albania). I found the following wikipedia articles that have that pic you are asking about inside them:
Mala Prespa on the Macedonian wikipedia
Mala Prespa on the Bulgarian wikipedia
Mala Prespa on the Serbian Wikipedia
and I just took the link to the image over there. I didnt find it by searching on wikimedia if that's what you are asking nor I know how to use it so far. --Vbb-sk-mk 17:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

templates

?? Why did you think that i was hijacking the article?? I didnt say that you couldnt put the corresponding greek template.. Why all the animosity? I mean, why do you suppose that just because I added that I was trying to hijack the article?? It wouldn't be hijacking since that article considers both turkey and greece; have a look at all other relations articles and u will see the foreign relations templates of corresponding countries.. Gees, please take a deep breath - we should be all trying to improve all the articles, not fighting over who owns what.. You were more than welcome to add the corresponding greek template, I just couldn't find a foreign relations of greece template.. Seriously, what u said in your edit summary was not cool dude.. what u did bordered on vandalism since u deleted a completely legitimate template whereas what you should have been doing was to add the corresponding greek tag.. Baristarim 15:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

completely agree with you :)) no worries, at the end of the day we are just hanging around, things can seem personal but they never are.. cheers! Baristarim 16:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Τι εννοεις "φύλακες ενός παγκοσμίου πολιτισμού"; Μπορεις να μου το εξηγησεις λιγο αυτο; Και επειδη οι Ελληνες ειναι ολίγον μελαχρινοί αυτο θα πει οτι δεν ειναι λευκοι; Α, και δεν λεμε "ασπρη ρατσα" αλλα "Λευκη Φυλη". Mitsos 15:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Απο που και ως που ειναι οι Ελληνες θεματοφύλακες ολοκληρου του παγκοσμιου πολιτισμού;;; Εαν εννοεις τον αρχαιοελληνικο πολιτισμο αυτος ηταν ελληνικος οχι "παγκοσμιος". Με την λευκη φυλη τι προβλημα εχεις; Αμφισβητεις το γεγονος οτι υπαρχουν φυλες;;; Οσο για τους "γειτονες" μας, βιολογικα, το 50% των Τουρκων ειναι λευκοι, η κουλτουρα τους ομως δεν ειναι (και αυτο ειναι που μετραει πιο πολυ, διαβασε και το κειμενο Who is White sto userpage mou). Τους Αλβανους δεν τους θελουμε, οχι επειδη δεν ειναι λευκοι, αλλα επειδη ειναι ξενοι (οπως δεν θα θελαμε να μεταναστευουν μαζικα στην πατριδα μας και αλλοι λαοι π.χ. οι Γερμανοι). Mitsos 15:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha ha?

LOL, I like propaganda. What I particularly love:

  • "In the liberation wars, the Greek, Bulgarian and Serb armies did not proceed onto Macedonian territory because it was not theirs." Sounds convincing, but is the biggest bullsh*t I've ever heard. Fiction.
  • "The greatest uprising in Macedonian history occurred on August 2, 19037." Or 17,031 years in the future as of 2006.
  • "Applying similar battle tactics as Alexander the Great in his numerous quests, Samuel managed to liberate the entire territory of ethnic Macedonia." Certainly, Alexander the Great was a direct forefather of Samuil, I don't doubt this, but Macedonia wasn't anything ethnic in the 11th century, but a geographic region in Thrace between what are today Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey :) Todor→Bozhinov 11:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you.--Yannismarou 14:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias

Hey Costandis, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia rubbish recycled

Your article ... has been deleted, as a) it is clearly an attack article and b) it does not cite any sources. Please do not add articles like this again. DJ Clayworth 15:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

(copied from User talk:DJ Clayworth) I understand your deletion. But please help me out - as you can see, my contribution was signed. My point is that, Wikipedia gives rise to many innacuracies. Some of them are then recycled. I would like to see an article that catalogues these occurances. Do you have any ideas? At least, can we have a place to discuss the possibility of such an article? Thanks. Politis 15:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

If you really want to make an article on this subject, here are some guidelines:

  1. Don't give your article an inflammatory title.
  2. Go and have a look at the articles that already exist. Much of this is covered in Wikipedia and Reliability of Wikipedia.
  3. You will need to cite third party sources (i.e. not Wikipedia itself) in support of what you write. An example of an inaccuracy is open to debate unless it is cited from a reliable, external source.
  4. Remember the Wikipedia principles: Neutrality, verifibility, sources.

Finally, you may want to consider there really a point to cataloguing any inaccuracies you find? Would it not be better for everyone to fix them? (P.S. You can reply on this page and I will see it) DJ Clayworth 16:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Reliability of Wikipedia seems to cover what I was looking for, no reason to start anything elese. Politis 10:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Your Institution's User's Edit to Southwest Airlines

This is the link to the edits: [13]. I'll be glad to help if you need any =). Thanks. -- Ouishoebean 12:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

testing from other terminal 161.74.11.24 12:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Srebrenica massacre article edits

Politis, any comments on my suggestion to start pruning/editing the Srebrenica massacre article?KarlXII 12:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Turkish coffee

Hello Politis. I had provided some sources for the date and who opened the first coffee shop, but they got losted in vandalisms... Pros to paron den mporw na kanw allo rv, alla epanefere tis piges an theleis. Den einai akadimaikes, alla polu amfivallw an to arthro tha itan toso megalo an zitousame 'academics sources' gia ola... Ciao Hectorian 18:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you.--Yannismarou 12:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Language, dialect and understandable confusion

Hi, you seem to have got the impression that before a language is standardised, it cannot exist. If that were so, there would be no English language. You also seem to have the impression that if something was not called something at one period of time, there can be no retroactive (is that a greek word or latin?) naming of that thing. This is also wrong, as it would not allow science to progress. Think of it this way, categorising those dialects as "Bulgarian" was a mistake, which is why they are typically categorised as "Macedonian" today by the majority of international scholars and linguists. For another example, we currently think that the earth is round, when talking about times before this was discovered, we don't revert to the old "wrong" thinking that the earth is flat. We keep saying that the earth is round. Regards, - Francis Tyers · 18:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You are kidding, right? I mean about comparing flat earth with 'Macedonian'; or perhaps you are collecting answers to bizzar suggestions. Why not?! But just in case... If we are quoting people stating that the earth is flat, we would use the same words. For the Mac lang we have no worthy quotes of a "Macedonian language" before 1940s. Those dialect could have been standardised in any number of 'new' languages, as well as into Serbian or Bulgarian. For that matter, the Slavic idioms of Greece could also be standardised into a more Hellenic new language. Regarding your other point about pre-1940s, there were discussions on standardisation as early as the turn of the century. There must be a language in order to standardise it, wouldn't you say? Or would you say that English currently isn't a language and is only a set of dialects?
We aren't quoting anyone, we are using a descriptive term. The term has been updated, which means we don't need to use the old term. Regarding your second suggestion, "the Slavic idioms of Greece could also be standardised into a more Hellenic new language", I've recommended this more than once. I think it would be a wonderful idea. You could have the alphabet as Latin or Greek (preferably Latin). It would piss off the ethnic Macedonian nationalists, but would be welcomed by almost everyone else. A win-win result :)
  • By the way, when was English officially standardised? Make sure you publish the results of your research when you find out.
English has never been officially standardised as far as I am aware. After the invention and introduction of the printing press (see Caxton) certain moves towards a more homogenous (Greek word!) language were made. For example, you might enjoy this little extract from one of Caxton's works.
"And the marchaunt was angry for he also coude speke no frenshe but wold haue hadde egges and she vnderstode hym not. And thenne at laste a nother sayd that he wolde haue eyren. Then the good wyf sayd that she vnderstood hym wel’ ... ‘Loo what sholde a man in thyse dayes now wryte egges or eyren? Certaynly it is harde to playse euery man by cause of dyuersite and chaunge of langage’" (if you don't read early modern / late middle english then you will be able to find translations on the internet).
  • Retroactive comes from the French and is a compound of Latin terms.
Thanks, I was too lazy to look it up!
- Francis Tyers · 09:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Cooperation board launched

A new (and overdue) Greek and Turkish cooperation and notification board has been launched here. Stop by, have a look and sound off! Cheers! Baristarim 07:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Greetings

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