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Contents 1 Welcome 2 US 1 3 Thirty most populous cities in the world 4 Chukyo Metropolitan Area 5 Area of Mumbai 6 FYI 7 Page moving 8 New York metropolitan area 9 Lengths 10 Re: CT Highway shields 11 Just a note 12 List of countries by population 13 Lahore District, Karachi District 14 Puerto Rico 15 Welcome to VandalProof! 16 County Routes in New York State 17 Countries by area 18 Dallas Urban Population 19 Newark, New Jersey 20 Would you reconsider your vote to delete the Mexican crime article? 21 VandalProof 1.2 Now Available 22 GDP 23 Timor population 24 GDP PPP and nominal 25 PPP GDP and Nominal GDP 26 Your issues 27 Great Britain 28 Tambay 29 Iasi's population 30 subpages 31 New York towns 32 Major Highways NY CSA 33 NYSR Proposal 34 U.S. Route Junctions 35 List of countries by population density‎ 36 Thanks 37 Peer review for Myanmar 38 Merritt 39 countries of the World 40 Interstate 87 41 100 biggest metro areas 42 Barnstar 43 Palisades Interstate Parkway 44 Limited-access road 45 List of metropolitan areas by population 46 The Original "New Standard" Articles 47 Vermont Naming Convention 48 Iceland census 49 Metro Detroit 50 A Request for Mediation 51 sovereign countries 52 Opinion Requested 53 WikiProject Proposed for CT State Highways 54 Your edit 55 Nevada Route 28 56 Stalking 57 Final state highway naming conventions debate 58 Your comment to List of Routes in Vermont 59 Chicago, Illinois->Chicago 60 List of Countries by Area 61 Interstate 287 62 What is your source... 63 Pause for a second 64 I-86 65 Infobox_road template standards 66 Requested move: San Francisco, California -> San Francisco 67 Moving "Ngwane IV of Swaziland" 68 US 295 in Washington 69 Oklahoma 70 Population of Hungary 71 Noodles 72 2 million 73 Request for a favor 74 Move from Toyota, Aichi to Toyota City 75 Japanese cities 76 e-mail 77 Highways

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Welcome

Johann Wolfgang [ T ...C ]

00:53, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US 1

Thanks for the town-by-town and mileage for Connecticut. I modified your listing format to keep it uniform with Rhode Island and New Hampshire. I will eventually do the same for other states as well. Cheers! --K1vsr (talk) 19:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thirty most populous cities in the world

Thank you for providing footnotes to the Thirty most populous cities in the world article on the talk page. I decided to put them in the article. I'd appreciate it if you could add more footnotes. Again: thank you. Ben ^T/_C 17:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

• Having so many footnotes seemed a bit too much for me so I simplified the footnotes so that only the controversial ones are listed. The rest probably correspond to cities even though some are not always called cities per se.

[edit] Chukyo Metropolitan Area

Hi Polaron, Thanks for starting the article Chukyo Metropolitan Area. Would you like to call your work to the attention of a larger community? If so, please feel free to add your new Japan-related article titles to the top of the list at Template:Newest Japan-related articles. Again, thanks. Fg2 21:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Area of Mumbai

Please look at the article carefully....it is about Greater Mumbai (which includes Mumbai City and Salsette and Trombay but not the Mumbai Metro Area), and not just the city.Pizzadeliveryboy 00:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

Just to let you know for further reference, there is a town called West Granby, CT. I know, I live in Granby. It is probably actually better that you changed the city names though. Thanks.
--Jared ^[T]/_[C]\^[P:O]/_[@]\^[+] 22:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Well West Granby has its own zip code: 06090. Whether it is incorperated or not, it beats me.... Thanks for the comment ! --Jared ^[T]/_[+] 23:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page moving

Could you please stop moving the CT hwy pages until we have WP:NC/NH resolved? Thanks. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:17, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Well we're going to the Mediation Cabal with this now... um I don't think it matters really until we have it resolved. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for moving these to their proper names. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 18:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

They;re not proper names. See Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-12 U.S. Roads. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)`

"Route X" is the only name used in Connecticut. Period. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 21:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York metropolitan area

Why did you add the Allentown--Bethlehem, PA-NJ Urbanized Area back to the New York metropolitan area page? I was the one that put it there in the first place (thinking that all of northern NJ is in the New York CSA). But then I realized that Warren county is not in the CSA. As I was mistaken, I removed it. But then you put it back. 16:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)TC

My mistake. I thought I was removing the Allentown entry. I will change back to your version. Polaron 16:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lengths

I'm not sure - personally I'd trust a document like I have, which is used to find the mileages that are sometimes posted on town line signs and the like, over GIS data. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 05:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that I probably would have been more hesitant to change the values had you cited sources. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:30, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: CT Highway shields

Polaron, it took me a minute to realize what you are talking about, but I believe you're talking about the road signs (ex: Image:Connecticut_Highway_20.png). I do not have any already made, but I have the stuff set up so that I can make them. I'd gladly do it! For now, I'll just do the ones for which you've made stubs, but in the future, if you ever need other ones, just give me a buzz. → J@red  18:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

There done. Tell me if I missed any. → J@red  19:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No I don't have any specs. What I'm doing is taking ones from other images on WP (the New Hampshire ones I think) and centering those numbers onto the CT box, which I found on WP. → J@red  20:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just a note

If a shield shows up blank, go to its description, click the link to commons, and append "?action=purge" to the end (for instance http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Vermont_12.svg?action=purge ). Then do the same to the article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_12_%28New_England%29?action=purge ) and if necessary hard refresh until the shield shows up. --SPUI (talk - RFC) 01:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

You may be interested in the discussion on Talk:Route 9 (New England). --SPUI (talk - RFC) 04:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of countries by population

===>Intro The SADR, ROC, and State of Palestine aren't recognized by the UN, and the Vatican isn't a member, so I figured I would write that in the introduction. -Justin (koavf), talk 00:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lahore District, Karachi District

Please dont redirect page Lahore District and Karachi District to Lahore and Karachi. They are different. Lahore and Karachi pages deal with cities not districts. --Spasage 05:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

On quite the opposite note, I want to clarify the issue of Pakistan's district. Please see the note I left on the Talk:Karachi page. Basically the cities of Lahore and Karachi are exactly the same thing as the districts of Lahore and Karachi - hence the name city-district. What seems to have happened on Karachi District is that someone has got the wrong end of the stick. There is nothing on that page which cannot be found on Karachi. So if nobody objects, I am going to put redirects where you put them. Cheers. Green Giant 23:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Puerto Rico

Sorry I reverted your edits of Puerto Rico regarding pop. size and area but the UN info is outdated and wrong. Within the UN site [1] there are updated information regarding the island. If you have any concerns please write. Take care. Joelito 03:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

You are correct on the population [2], my mistake. I will correct this. Joelito 03:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to VandalProof!

Hi Polaron/Archive1, thank you for your interest in VandalProof and Congratulations! You are now one of our authorized users, so if you haven't already simply download VandalProof from our main page, install and you're ready to go!

If you have any problems please feel free to contact me or post a message on VandalProof's talk page. Once again congrats and welcome to our team! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 00:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] County Routes in New York State

I noticed you edited my pages on county routes in New York State. (Or rather, Dutchess County because that's all I created yet.) I was wondering if you would be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject New York County Routes. Your help would be appreciated. [empirestateroads.com empire state roads] is a very helpful source, and, except for the images is "common knowledge" and does not need to be cited.

[edit] Countries by area

After switching over the country by area values to UN figures, I was worried about my change looking like a one man show. I really didn't know if people supported the change (I asked for feedback, but got little to none before I made the change). I probably wouldn't have fought any revisions with much enthusiasm if you hadn't come in. Thank you for watching over the list, and the UN numbers, and keeping me from worrying that I was forcing my lone opinion on people. I really wasn't sure if there was much support for my switch-over, but I see now that others shared my sensibilities on the issue. Thanks again. Malnova 05:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dallas Urban Population

I noticed you added an "urban population" number to the Dallas, Texas article infobox. The article in its entirity is striving to become a Featured Article by, among many other things, having sources provided for almost every fact stated. If you have information on where you retrieved the number, or if the source is a Wikipedia article and it has sourcing information, please either let me know the details or add a <ref>Reference</ref> yourself in the article. Thanks so much!! drumguy8800 - speak 01:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Three is definitely much better than one. And the 2005 data would actually be preferred. A lot of times editors will revert newer population estimates because they are replacing census information with non-referenced information... if you include a reference, the newer data will be respected and left alone. drumguy8800 - speak 04:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Newark, New Jersey

Thank you for helping Newark, New Jersey; but please provide a source for you recent help. If I can be of assistance in any way, please don't hesitate to ask. Thank you, again. WAS 4.250 04:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the sources!!!!! WAS 4.250 05:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Would you reconsider your vote to delete the Mexican crime article?

Someone else created the Mexican crime article and, admittedly, the original text was short and appeared to be a slam against Mexico because it seemed to say "Stay away from Mexico, it's crime-ridden."

However, when my attention was drawn to the article, I saw the potential for a valuable article and so I expanded the text based on Google research and tried to take out the OR and POV text. User:Aguerriero believes this is an important article and has pledged to work on it to further remove OR and POV text.

Would you reconsider your "delete" vote in the context of the above points? Article deletion page is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mexican crime.

Thanx.

--Richard 16:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

[edit] GDP

This GDP fellow is beginning to seriously annoy me. He does not provide any useful information but only changes data on various articles trying to inflate data about Romania and Moldova. Do you want to request RFC or even mediation against him? Originally I have him the benefit of the doubt, but now I am beginning to suspect that he is someone's sockpuppet. Vox Populi (TSO) 17:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I did provide you a source: http://www.mfinante.ro/venituri.htm but you didn't want to take into account because I think is too official for you...

You prefer an old statistics from 2005 rather than a new one from official Government of Romania. That's strange. --GDP 17:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timor population

Hi Polaron. I stick by my correction on the list of islands by population. According to the sources referenced, the population of Timor Island was 2,220,000 in 2000. This comprises of the five Indonesian provinces (Kupang, Kota Kupang, Timor Tengah Selatan, Timor Tengah Utara and Belu) plus the whole population of East Timor. Of course this includes some minor islands, for example Atauro off Dili but it shouldn't change the sum too much. Cheers, Mikko.

[edit] GDP PPP and nominal

http://www.infoeuropa.ro/ieweb/imgupload/RR_RO_2004_EN_00001.pdf (page 155) I found here the relation between nominal GDP and PPP GDP:

Gross domestic product per capita b) at current prices in 2003: 2.320 EURO

Gross domestic product per capita b) at current prices in 2003 in Purchasing Power Standards: 6.340 EURO. (the multiplication factor is: 2,7327)

Now the for 2006 the nominal GDP is 93 Billion EURO as you seen above. That means 4227 EURO.

You can compute very easily the GDP in Purchasing Power Standards: 11551 EURO. This data is very close to the data that I used. --GDP 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

--GDP 09:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PPP GDP and Nominal GDP

GDP expressed as nominal GDP is 92.3 billion euro (~120 billion USD) and the PPP GDP as expressed in PURCHASING POWER PARITY is 240 Billion Euro. --GDP 07:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The main point is that the figures you are citing have not been confirmed by other organizations. Statistics like these should only come from reliable sources. Polaron | Talk 14:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

http://www.mfinante.ro/venituri.htm Official sources, and latest one directly from taken from the ministery of finance from Romania. --GDP 16:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

So, all the above information was correct. Romania collected revenues of 32.6 bln lei (€9.23 bln) to the consolidated state budget in the first four months of 2006, accounting for 10.1% of the country's GDP, said the Romanian Ministry of Finance.

The country's spending in the first four months of 2006 stood at 29.2 bln lei (€8.27 bln), which is 9.1% of the country's GDP.

Tax on profit generated 3.1 bln lei (€877.9 mln) of the country's consolidated state budget revenue during the reported period, while collection of income tax generated 2.8 bln lei (€792.9 mln), value added tax (VAT) contributed 8.1 bln lei (€2.29 bln) and excise tax generated 2.9 bln lei (€821.28 mln) of the total.

The Romanian Government had initially envisaged a budget deficit of 0.5% of GDP for 2006, which increased to 0.9% of GDP after the first budget revision in April 2006.

So GDP is 92,30 Billion EURO in 2006.--GDP 09:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

All is explained above, first we have the sources of GDP in nominal currency which is 93 Billion Euro (http://www.reporter.gr/fulltext_ENG.cfm?id=60601145531), then we can compute the PPP GDP by multiplying with the factor (aprox. ~3). In this way you have also the PPP GDP. GDP 15:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your issues

Please tell me exactly what facts do you contest? The fact that nominal GDP is 93 Billion euro? --GDP 15:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC) If you don't contest the data 93 Billion Euro, then you shouldn't contest the 254 Billion Euro PPP GDP. Just look please at several countries, there are big differences between nominal GDP and PPP GDP. For Romania the proportion is as high as 2,73 factor, even if before was even greater than 3. By the moment Romania will adopt Euro as curency it will probably have the proportion factor 1. --GDP 15:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I will do that. --GDP 15:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Done.--GDP 16:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great Britain

No, I apologise, I don't! I do recall at the time that I read it from source but for some reason that I can't imagine I seem to have neglected to include it. Sorry --Robdurbar 08:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tambay

In case no one has invited you yet, baka gusto mong tumambay?--Jondel 03:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iasi's population

Please participate to the discussion at Romania's talk page instead of writing your fucked arguments! Arthur 10 June

New info regarding the wages in Romania. See talk page of Romania. Regards, --Brasoveanul 12:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] subpages

Hey, I didn't want to interrupt your editing by moving the page out from under you, but I'd suggest you move it when you get a chance. Specifically, List of metropolitan areas by population/temp should be moved to Talk:List of metropolitan areas by population/temp. The relevant guideline is Wikipedia:Subpages#Disallowed_uses. I don't know why it's this way, but thought you should know about it.--Kchase02 T 00:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York towns

I'm aware of that, but the current situation has a major problem. If I'm talking about Andover, New York, what do I link to? --SPUI (T - C) 02:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

What if I have a source saying "Joe Smith lived in Andover"? For that matter, how long would it take to sort out [3], and do the same for all other such cases? --SPUI (T - C) 02:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

New proposal: Wikipedia:Political subdivisions of New York --SPUI (T - C) 01:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Highways NY CSA

I certainly agree we can't include all highways in the CSA. My preference would be to include all interstates though. That said, I don't mind if we leave i91 out. However, there is a lot of other stuff on the site I would similarly leave out. For instance, I listed MacArthur and Westchester Airports. I figured that they had scheduled flights from major airlines, so they were big enough to include. But then someone added Teterboro, which does not have flights like this. So as not to be rude, I left it in, but left it in its own category. Then someone added Orange County Airport, which is not reasonable on its own, but given that Teterboro is there seems reasonable. The addition of Stewart by someone did indeed seem reasonable goven that it has scheduled flights from major airlines. I would leave in JFK, EWR, LGA, MacArthur, Westchester and Stewart and take out Teterboro and Orange. But to the extent that these stay in, 91 probably belongs in. But I'll let you make the call.

[edit] NYSR Proposal

Even though I know you're in favor of making the change to the new routebox and to the Major Intersections table, please vote on the finalized proposal at WT:NYSR. Thank you in advance. --TMF ^{T - C} 06:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Route Junctions

Heya. What's your method to figuring out what junctions get to be in the box? I'm looking for input on how to "qualify" a junction and was wondering what your thoughts are. Stratosphere 06:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of countries by population density‎

I saw that you are the editor who updated the List of countries by population density‎ article - You do realize that only sovereign countries are supposed to be numbered, while the rest should be listed for comparison only? Many of the states and territories now listed as sovereign are in fact not sovereign countries (ie they are governed by another state or country), as for example Greenland (belongs to Denmark), Puerto Rico (US territory), Hong Kong (part of China), and so on. Those are not countries, and should not be listed as such. /M.O (u) (t) 19:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, that's the UN list, and it is most likely correct. But this is not about what should be listed, but what should be numbered. Hong Kong, Macao and Puerto Rico weren't numbered for the reason that they aren't countries in their own right, and should not be ranked as such. Your edits have messed this count up, giving countries like China, Denmark and USA multiple listings, since they control or own oversea territories. And that is why sovereign countries where numbered, while other territories were not, although they were listed, and ordered by population density. Your edits ruined that system, and we now have a list that compares countries to cities. /M.O (u) (t) 20:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you really sure that they were messed up? Please, try to understand that this is not just about what you think would be the best way to present this list. Other editors before you have taken their time to separate the sovereign countries from the rest of the list. And this list was already ordered by population density, the difference was that only sovereign countries were numbered. This article stated that only sovereign countries were numbered, but other territories were included as well, for comparison reasons. You are the one who removed that statement, to justify a list that presents incorrect information. If you live in Hong Kong, you live in China. If you live in Gibraltar, you live in the UK. But with this new list that you have made, you can compare a country to itself in regard to population density. Besides, if this list was meant to list about any territory you can think of, it wouldn't be named "List of countries by population density". /M.O (u) (t) 20:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

In regards to your edits to Malta, PLEASE refrain from editing country pages before a consensus is reached about this list. You're only creating lots of extra work for nothing. _└ ^VodkaJazz / _talk ^┐ 17:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your prompt response. I'll copy it onto my computer whenever I can access the data. Also, thanks a lot for your work on the article. Ufwuct 01:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review for Myanmar

Hello, I have begun a peer review for Myanmar. Please express your opinions at Wikipedia:Peer review/Myanmar. Thank you. Hintha 21:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merritt

Thanks for the input, I grew up in Weston and my folks are still there. I did double-check though before reverting it, my Hagstroms Ffld County Street Atlas shows Rt. 57 (Georgetown Rd.) ending at Rt. 107 in Redding, Rt. 107 travels West to intersect w/Rt. 7 in Wilton. Now that I triple-check it, Navteq data concurs: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.2165+-73.38662&ie=UTF8&ll=41.256936,-73.42766&spn=0.008162,0.022702&om=1 Nice to cross the t's and dot the i's as they say... Enjoy! -RJFerret 06:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] countries of the World

Hi there: are you really saying that you think Denmark is nearly ten times as large as the United Kingdom?--Anthony.bradbury 23:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I hadn't considered Greenland, which I agree is Danish territory. Fair comment, I concede the point.--Anthony.bradbury 23:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 87

• As the article control city refers to a control city being "mileage signs on longer routes", Plattsburgh actually is listed as a control city on Interstate 87. --Riley 06:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 100 biggest metro areas

Ok, sorry about the little edit dispute about the population of Delaware Valley. It's clear to me by reading your contributions that you are VERY experienced with editing geographical articles so this is obviously one of your areas of expertise. So, I reverted to your edits and I apologize for the mistake.-Andrewia 01:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		New York State Routes Barnstar
		For your work regarding mileposts on several route articles, including the lengthy New York State Route 5, and for your dedication to the routebox and article formatting as specified by WP:NYSR and WT:NYSR, as evidenced by your edits to New York State Route 9A. Well done! --TMF T - C 07:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palisades Interstate Parkway

Thanks for finding the SVG shield image (I didn't know there was one), and for creating the redirects for my redlinks (I would have done it eventually, I swear)!!! -- NORTH ^talk 19:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Limited-access road

If you're in the mood to join the mudslinging, can you take a look at the dispute here as a third party? Thanks. --SPUI (T - C) 17:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of metropolitan areas by population

Hi. I would really talk about the list of metropolitan areas by population. Obviously you are really into this. So please contact me. I have some question marks in my mind about this subject and also I would like express some of my ideas. Thank you. John. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by John9834 (talk • contribs).

Is there a list of metropolitan areas (with ranking) that cross national borderline of some sort? —RJN 05:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Original "New Standard" Articles

Hello again. I did a bit of analysis tonight and I found a list of articles that are still using a table for the junction table instead of the NYSRInt templates. The reason that I had to look these up is that, with the changes made to the Template:NYSRInt coding tonight (a massive upgrade that should improve the efficiency of the template), a lot of the articles that are still using the table no longer display correctly (due to the placement of the NYSR templates inside of the table) and must be upgraded to use the NYSRInt template. I've already taken care of some of them, but here are the ones that are left:

• 116
• 119
• 120
• 121
• 125
• 127
• 128
• 129
• 133
• 134
• 137
• 138
• 141
• 153
• 172
• 247
• 332
• 350
• 370
• 444
• 488

If you could help me out and convert some of these, that'd be great. I'll do some myself as time permits, but a helping hand would be appreciated. Regards, TMF ^{T - C} 07:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vermont Naming Convention

Greetings. I'm planning on creating a Vermont WikiProject to organize the Vermont route articles, which are currently under two different naming conventions. I've seen the massive amount of work you've done on VT articles, so I wanted your input on what the naming convention should be. Any ideas? --TMF ^{T - C} 02:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iceland census

Hey, can you tell me where you found these numbers from an 1980 census? I didn't know there had been a census carried out in Iceland since the adoption of the national registry in the 1950s. --Bjarki 18:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metro Detroit

I just looked it up and you were right. I've lived here for most of my life and have never heard it referred to as Detroit-Warren-Flint. Everything I've ever seen has only referenced Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor and Windsor (which can't be included by the US govt).If you lived here, you'd know how ludicrous that designation is. Someone from Macomb County must have done heavy lobbying for that. mp2dtw 00:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you tell me, since you insist on reverting, how the first sentence makes any sense? I'd like a response before appealing this. mp2dtw 00:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Request for Mediation

A request for Mediation has been entered for the dispute over Warren and Ann Arbor by mp2tdw. I am a cabal, and I am here to give advice. Seeing as I am not a formal mediator, you are free to ignore me entirely. However, if you find what I say to be worthy advice, you can go for it.

Now, down to business.

From what I see, you are conflicting with another editor about how to address the Detroit metro area, whether to use Ann Arbor or Warren. The other editor claims that Ann Arbor has a far larger cultural and commercial life than Warren. If tyou do not agree with the other editor, you can compromise, and use both names, Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor-Flint. If that doesn't work, show the other editor your point of view. What does Warren have that Ann Arbor doesn't? I hope I have helped at least a little bit. I will be informing the other editor of my idea right now. Thanks for listening.

Viva La Vie Boheme

PS - Here is a link to the Request page, with a couple of compromise ideas. Feel free to contact me at my talk page! Viva La Vie Boheme

---

I have solved your dispute. "Metro Detroit-Ann Arbor-Flint (officially designated Detroit-Warren-Flint by the US Census Bureau)" will be the phrase used. It is similar to the idea you had, and mp2tdw agrees. If you have anything else to say, talk to me on my talk page! Viva La Vie Boheme

[edit] sovereign countries

Hi, Polaron. Did you ever get any additional comments about numbering officially non-sovereign entities like Greenland on the Countries by area list? You said something in your edit about putting this issue from the discussion page up on RFC. I don't know how to find this particular info source/list, could you tell me how to find it? However, unless the listing on RFC prompted a number of opinions in favor of my thinking, I have decided not to protest your changing of the numbering system. You have maintained the list in recent times with a very steady hand, and have allowed edits you saw as beneficial or at least harmless, and I respect that. Could you just ask on the discussion page about consensus next time before making such a big move (even though there is a large chance you will get no response from anyone else (besides me maybe)? Thanks. Malnova 21:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion Requested

I'd like your opinion on this source from Dallas/Fort_Worth_Metroplex. (This article and this talk page are also involved.) Now, I know that as of 8-1-06, D/FW has more people than Philly Metro (by U.S. Census Bureau's definition), you know, and the author of the above external source seems to know it. However, the U.S. C.B. just came out with the estimates for July 1, 2005 on June 21, 2006. This source seems to be doing an estimate of an estimate based only on growth rates. Do you think this is a valid enough source? I would personally like to wait until the U.S. C.B. comes out with these numbers before we cite it. Also, if the external source did actually find this information from an official release of the U.S. C.B., it should be easy to find. If they did their own research, I would hesitate to cite them. Thanks. Ufwuct 15:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Proposed for CT State Highways

Hey, we're talking over in WP:USRD about starting CT and RI highway WikiProjects, and I understand you might be interested. Tckma 17:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for starting the project! I've already asked a question on the talk page. --Tckma 13:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit

Please explain your edit on talk page first. You deleted great info. --Noisettes 16:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nevada Route 28

Regarding your recent change to NSR 28. I figured it would behoove us to specifiy that the Route 28 at this highway's end was CALIFORNIA State Route 28. Hence CSR 28. Do you have any other suggestions for abbreviation or should we just put the full name. Because IMO I'm not comfortable just leaving it as SR as it doesn't differnetiate that it's not a Nevada Route. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 18:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Would you object to a change to CA SR 28? I think that would be sufficent. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 18:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stalking

Are you stalking me? Please stop for your own good. You reverted several times my edits even if I provided sources. --Noisettes 14:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Final state highway naming conventions debate

Polaron, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the California fixes. --SPUI (T - C) 03:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment to List of Routes in Vermont

Your comment is very similar to design 1 and 1A: User:Seicer/sandbox1. Those are three designs that are under serious consideration, and design 1 to me is the best. For some reason I can't get the image clutter out of 1A out. Just to let you know :) Seicer (talk) (contribs) 15:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago, Illinois->Chicago

I saw your comment agreeing with me regarding the city, name unconventional "convention". On the positive side, reason and logic seem to have the upper hand with a current page move vote to change Chicago, Illinois back to Chicago. See Talk:Chicago, Illinois to throw in your support. Much appreciated. The only way to fix this is the way they broke it in the first place... one article at a time. --Serge 23:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Votes from January don't count in this round! Please vote in the current poll near the bottom of Talk:Chicago, Illinois. I agree with you about parenthesis being the better and more consistent approach for handling disambiguities. But, for now, if we can get the convention to be ignored on Chicago, that would be a 100% improvement over the current state where only one city does (New York City). --Serge 03:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Countries by Area

Explain ur reason for continuous reversals to the page given above. I am explaining mine -

1. Regarding PRC and USA at no. 3 & 4 PRC should kept over USA bcoz of Alphabetical order. Even if that is not considered, the HK and the territories administered by Taiwan make PRC 3rd. USA itself had recognized in 2004 Taiwan as an integral part of China. And also United Nations includes Republic of China's non-Taiwanese territories as PRC's.

2. Regarding the Ghulam Kashmir, most of the world doesn't recognize that title. It is considered universally as Pakistan Occupied Kashmir(for which there is a page). And removing the bracket part of includes territories not administered by India, well that is evident from the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir page as is given in this page. So there is no territory of India taken into account in this page that is not administered by India.

3. Regarding Argenitinian claim in Antarctica, a lot of countries claim that but nothing has been written about them bcoz Antarctica's claim is not recognized and neither administrative. So it is pointless to even mention that.

Explain ur reasons for continous reversals to the original page. If u don't follow the three-reversals rule ur account maybe blocked. User page Discussion Edit this page + History

[edit] Interstate 287

Don't worry, I'm fully aware of the ugliness that 24.228.70.72 and Nextbarker bring to the major junction lists. However, I think it might be best to refrain from reverting their edits blindly. (Logical reversion is okay.) For example, I am in favor of keeping NJ 17 on the major junction list for Interstate 287. -- NORTH ^talk 19:42, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

So, I guess US 1 and NJTP are paraleel each other at I-287 but why does the ramp from from 287 to Route 1 get some much more jammed then the NJTP entrances which is further east, and that's basically on Route 440 the NJTP entrance.

But Route 24 is MUCH further south then Route 17.

[edit] What is your source...

... for Lithuania infobox adjustments? Renata 14:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pause for a second

Thanks.Ufwuct 23:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. I saw that you were making the edits that I did not, but thought you made one extra one in addition. Go ahead with what you were doing. I'll live with the edit conflicts. Thanks. Ufwuct 23:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if I messed up something you were doing. I'm done for now. I just updated the list of 25. --Polaron | Talk 23:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

No, you didn't mess anything up. I guess you were just quicker (or I saw your comment on the talk page to the article too late). Thanks for being so punctual with the update. Cheers. Ufwuct 23:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and sorry if I sounded curt. I just wanted to make sure that we weren't redoing/undoing the other's work.

[edit] I-86

It seems from your edit summary that you reverted me because we don't generally edit articles just to fix redirects. This is correct, but a lot of those repairs I made did fix red links, and a lot of them removed duplicate links. I have a tremendous amount of work left to do there, and I would appreciate it if you would not revert my changes out of hand. Thanks. Kafziel 16:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox_road template standards

I have added a discussion thread at WT:NJSCR to address standards for NJ road infoboxes and invite your participation. Over the past several weeks, we have made tremendous progress in cleaning up the articles for the State highways in New Jersey, especially with the expansion and addition of infoboxes to most of these articles. However, there seems to be a great deal of confusion as to what should be going in these infoboxes. I am creating this thread and inviting those users who have been active participants in editing these pages to come up with a mutually agreeable answer on the issues listed. I will take on the task of moderating this discussion, but I will add my 2 cents on these topics. We can add more questions if needed, but please, be civil. Alansohn 23:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move: San Francisco, California -> San Francisco

Please vote at Talk:San Francisco, California. Thanks. --Serge 18:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Please watch my user page for updates to a list of cities where polls are created. Also, feel free to use the info on that page to create your own polls (and update that list as appropriate) --Serge 04:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving "Ngwane IV of Swaziland"

Hi Polaron.

The move is not controversial at all, but since the destination is occupied by a redirect which has been edited more than once, this means that only an administrator can move the darn thing. I am no administrator, so I have no choice but to use the most cumbersome method. I've added a note to the page explaining the situation. Regards. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 20:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US 295 in Washington

If you want to go ahead and add it, feel free to go ahead and do so. Like you, I don't see any harm in either adding it or excluding it. Its exclusion was surely just an oversight on my part, as I did sort of a rush job when applying the templates. -- NORTH ^talk 04:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oklahoma

Yes, that would be the best practice IMO, but I don't know if OC is really a global city in the way Chicago, San Francisco, New York are. It just seemed like the argument about "New York City, New York" being redundant would warrant "Oklahoma City, Oklahoma" being moved as well. But yeah, I suppose I'd support a move, although I don't know where the tide is among editors. Jibbajabba 09:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Population of Hungary

Actually, the reference that had been in the article before your edit was pointing to a KSH estimate of 31 May 2006, and as such, it was better than the new one, I think. But I'm already tired of having to edit the number of Hungarians and Hungarian speakers 60% of the time, so I'll just let it lie. :( KissL 15:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Noodles

hehehe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.161.155.139 (talk • contribs).

Cool! --Polaron | Talk

[edit] 2 million

For years, Houston has been waiting for it to hit the 2 million population, so it can be classified as a world class city (whatever its other names are as well). It was a big article in the 1993 edition of the Houston newspaper when I was visiting that stated that. Ericsaindon2 05:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Are Miami, Atlanta, Boston, Copenhagen, and Brussels considered world class or world famous cities?

[edit] Request for a favor

Polaron, if you get a second, could you take a look at San Diego and the recent goings-on for the article. I've used up two of my reversions [for today] on anonymous editors. My rationale for the reversions is also on that talk page. Your time would be appreciated. Thanks. Ufwuct 17:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move from Toyota, Aichi to Toyota City

Please don't move articles into namespaces that aren't approved by the MoS. I can see that you don't agree with the current MoSJA but this issue has been discussed at length and there are numerous reasons (mainly because we don't suffix city names with City in common English) why moving the article to Toyota City is wrong.

In future, it would help everyone a lot if you didn't deliberately disobey Wikipedia's style rules while a point is being disputed, and at least waited until some sort of concensus or level of understanding has been reached.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  05:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I've just looked at your contributions now and I have to ask you... what do you think you're doing?  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  05:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not need to argue this point with you: it has been decided at length. If you disagree with it, state your preference and your reasoning in a talk page before doing anything drastic. Your reasoning will be duefully considered and changes will be made after a decision is made. Please familiarize yourself with the original discussions so that nobody is forced to repeat themselves for the nth time. Thankyou.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  05:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese cities

You linked me the wrong page...could you send me the proper link. Beyond that, that guideline is not very clearly followed - Osaka, Tokyo, Kyoto, Kobe, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima all fail to follow it. Nagoya is one of the largest cities, I think it should fall in with that bunch, rather than the smaller cities at the other format. john k 15:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] e-mail

Do you have an e-mail address registered? I want to e-mail you but it's not letting me. (this is regarding the highway poll). atanamir 00:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• Cool, thanks. did you check the "enable e-mail from other users" in the prefrences too? atanamir 00:30, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highways

I don't know. You can complain but you'll just get blocked. --SPUI (T - C) 02:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I highly doubt that. Polaron, I'm sorry if folks are shooting down your compromise ideas. Some people can be petty. I think most of us would like to see something everyone can live with. Powers ^T 15:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)