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This template was radically altered between these two edits

[1] & [2] with an edit summary that only said "restore to shorter version that doesn't mess up formatting across many articles".

It was not a restoration, it was a significant change. I believe that the template in its current form is very useful, however its previous form too was useful for different reasons. Might I suggest that we revert this to its original purpose (as it is already present in many an articles for which it is no longer relevant (i.e. Supreme Court of Canada) and create a new template to link all elections and parliaments? - Jord 04:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

  • I noticed the change. I didn't like it but tolerated it. It was to bring the Politics of Canada in line with the international standard. Compare it to Template:Politics of India. The two Canadian versions appear to fill two different purposes so it looks like someone made the change to a template without checking the "What links here". Seems like this should be re-named "Government of Canada" as some of the linked subjects (ie. Judicial) are not politicized (I hope). --maclean25 05:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree. This template is getting a bit out of hand. "Politics of Canada" is such a broad topic that a giant template at the top of every page remotely related to Canadian politics looks ugly. I wonder if better deliniated topics would be in order. For example, why not a separate template for "elections", "government of canada", "judicial system", and "sessions of parliament", rather than one huge template to hold it all. PullUpYourSocks 16:01, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
It is a bit large, but I wouldn't seperate the list of elections from the list of parliaments. I've found it to be very helpful to be able to bring up any one of those pages from any other page. -Arctic.gnome 17:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I suggest that we take both elections and parliaments out of this one and put them into a new template. I will make a demo and link it here. - Jord 18:29, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed split

Please see the following proposal for two templates: Template:Politics of Canada/proposed split. I think this would be a good way to meet the needs without creating an large template that really over laps. Some pages would include both templates and I've formatted them in such a way that one could be used at the bottom of a page. Please let me know your comments. - Jord 18:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] This template is out of control

When this template was originally created, it was a small and concise navigational tool [3]. It has since evolved into something of a dog's breakfast and it is so complex and detailed that I question its usefulness. I would suggest we return to the simpler version, in its earliest days it looked like this:

Canadian flag

Politics of Canada

Executive

Monarchy

Governor General

Prime Minister

Cabinet
Legislative

Parliament

Senate

Speaker of the Senate
Government Leader in the Senate
Opposition Leader in the Senate

House of Commons

Speaker of the House
Government House Leader
Leader of the Official Opposition
Judicial

Supreme Court

Lower Courts of Appeal

Constitution

Charter of Rights and Freedoms
Regions

Provinces and territories

I think that the current version [4] has gone a long way in improving its aestic appearence and adding some useful information, but I would recommend something with the appearence of the new but the content not much more than the old.

I propose the following:

Canada

This article is part of the series:
Politics and government of
Canada


Executive

The Crown (Queen Elizabeth II)
Governor General (Michaëlle Jean)
Prime Minister (Stephen Harper)
Cabinet

Legislative (Parliament)

Senate
Speaker of the Senate
Government Leader in the Senate
Opposition Leader in the Senate
House of Commons
Speaker of the House
Government House Leader
Leader of the Opposition
Opposition House Leader
Elections
Parliamentary constituencies
Electoral system
Last election

Judicial

Supreme Court
Chief Justice
Lower Courts of Appeal
Constitution
Charter of Rights and Freedoms

Provinces and territories

Politics of: AB | BC | MB | NB | NL | NT
          NS | NU | ON | PE | QC | SK | YT

Regions
Political culture
Foreign relations


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Does this make sense? - Jord 13:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Support. However, I would remove the View Talk Edit line. It's convenient, but it makes it too easy for inexperienced editors to tinker with the template. --Usgnus 13:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Also, take out the "See also" section. Readers can get to the History of Canada easily enough, and Politics by country is easy to find at Portal:Politics. --Usgnus 13:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Agreed with both comments, as proposed it is still too cluttered; any ideas as to how to condense it more muchly appreciated! - Jord 14:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
"See also" and edit links cannot be removed: they are part of the {{politicsboxend}} template. Circeus 15:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Support reduction.Circeus 15:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Support reduction, but keep in the edit tag (Every entry should be easily edited. I would like to remove the links in the headers. It would be like this: Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 20:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Oppose: This shouldn't even be up for a vote. The arms as depicted in the above info box are not the arms of Canada, despite its labelling on commons. As such, it's relation to Canada is non-existent and worthless within the context of an infobox intended for use on articles regarding Canada. Far more appropriate and illustrative is the Canadian flag, which has no fair use encumbrances to avoid. --Durin 16:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment: That coat of arms is outdated. The modern one has the motto of the Order of Canada behind the shield. --Arctic Gnome 19:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • If the coat as shown right now on this page is the outdated one, it is still likely copyrighted and its presence on commons is improper (this is not surprising given the limited oversight on commons). As such, its use in the template is proscribed by Wikipedia:Fair use criteria. --Durin 19:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Canada

This article is part of the series:
Politics and government of
Canada



Other countries • Politics Portal
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