Talk:Poggle

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[edit] POV

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The concept of mammals spiraling to extinction over time does not make sense. The climate 100 million years hence imitates that of the Mesozoic Era, when mammals first evolved. During the Mesozoic, mammals were extremely diverse. Rodent-like mammals cracked seeds with their large back teeth. Small mole-like mammals tunnel through termite nests. Shrew-like mammals scamper amongst the trees. There was even a giant mammal that preyed on dinosaurs. So mammals in the future would diversify into larger domains. Plus there is the problem with the spider's "poggle farms". Spiders need lots of protein to manufacture needed silk, so they need to farm and tend to more poggles.

Personally, I think this is one of the main fallacies in logic that the series has. It's never really clear why mammals, birds, etc. seem to be doomed to be replaced by spiders, fish, worms, termites, cephalopods, and snails. Ever since shortly after the colonization of land there's been a bit of a switching off between synapsids and diapsids as the dominant large land vertebrates. Mass extinctions tend to lead to a shift in which of the two groups are dominant (late Paleozoic and Cenozoic = synapsids whereas Mesozoic = diapsids), and reduces the number of surviving lines (i.e. we're basically down to therians and birds), but losing both outright and in the slow decline scenario just doesn't make sense to me. --Aranae 03:02, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Indeed, you are right. I wanted to explain this in the article by creating the Mesozoic mammal phenomena to show the impossibility of a slow decline. In addition, some people suggested that the poggle would not be the last mammal because a shift in climate increased mammalian diversity. For instance the climate was incredibly warm 50 million years ago and from there, most of the mammals on Earth diversified or originated from jungle mammals of that time period.

[edit] Merge

The suggested merge into The Future is Wild won't work, there's far too much material in Category:The Future is Wild species and the result would be enormous. Instead, perhaps each era could get its own article with all these descriptions in subsections? Something like The Future is Wild species of 5 million years from today? Bryan 07:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)