Talk:Pio of Pietrelcina
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[edit] Attribution
There a million stories of reported miracles attributed to to Padre Pio can anyone who knows any referenced material add them?
I seem to remember that Pater Pio had stigmata (bleeding of hands and feet as Christ) , but I don't know if that's a proven fact. 212.35.106.250
Certainly, it will be argued over and over again. There is a famous photograph of the priest showing his stigmatized hands. A seemingly identical photo shows him without scars. It has been said by some that this shows the wounds to be concocted, while others have said the photo without the scars was doctored. The photos, I believe were well-known at the time, and so I don't think there was too much controversy around them.
You are right, Pater Pio was a stigmatic during 40 years (I dont know exactly), but what I know exactly is, he was an Italian, not a Czech one. User:JanJosef
Am I blind, or is his real name entirely missing from the article? Kickstart70 22:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Why we don't have here any of his prophecies related to John Paul II?
[edit] First line
I propose changing the first lines to:
- Francesco Forgione (May 25, 1887 - September 23, 1968), canonized Saint Pio of Pietrelcina, was an Italian priest. He took the name Pio when he joined the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin. After his ordination to the priesthood he was popularly know as Padre Pio.
- He had the stigmata for many years, and what was so unusual about Pio's stigmata was that when it bled, the blood smelled of perfume or flowers. . . .
Any concerns about this?
Question: Is "Pater Pio" really common among English speakers? I have only ever heard of "Padre Pio," among English and Italians. I propose moving this page to either Pio of Pietrelcina or Padre Pio. Any thoughts?
--Eoghanacht 20:45, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
Article currently begins: "Saint Pio of Pietrelcina, was an Italian serial killer, convicted of murdering 117 young men and woman in the late 1950s. After a mix-up he was canonized by the pope, who had actually meant to begin the process of ex-communication."
I don't know how to report vandalism, but I know it when I see it.
[edit] Article name change
I went ahead and changed the article from "Pater Pio" to "Pio of Pietrelcina." As best I could determine, the title was chosen by a Czech user, where he was known as "Pater Pio." I decided against moving to "Padre Pio" somewhat because 'Padre' was not really part of his name, but mostly because "Pio of Pietrelcina" is how the saint is mostly likely to be referred to in future Church literature, and in terms of naming things (schools, churches, etc.) after him. --Eoghanacht 18:38, 2005 May 10 (UTC)
Padre Pio is the only way I have ever heard anyone refer to him within the church. My cousin, a Franciscan monk, has met him, and has shown me literature (all in english) and everything refers to him as Padre Pio. I think you should reconsider removing Padre. Even John Paul II referred to him as Padre Pio.
[edit] Request for Expansion
This article isn't very detailed when compared to the articles of other saints. See my talk page for more details and possible topics.Trevor 04:19, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cadaver photos
During his funeral preparation, someone took photos of Padre Pio's bare feet and hands and no wounds were visible on the corpse, which created some scandal with allegations of stigmata fraud. Others said it must be another miracle, since the limbs were too good for such an old person, looked almost like a baby's skin. 213.178.109.36 20:43, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pietrelcina or Pietralcina?
Two recent edits changed "Pietrelcina" to "Pietralcina" in the text (though without moving the article). Both names seem to be attested (a Google search turns up 457,000 for "-e-" and 80,200 for "-a-", with Pio mentioned in many results under both spellings). But the town's own official website uses the "-e-" spelling, so I am reverting the changes. Vilĉjo 23:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Title
I have added the infobox, but was not sure whether to state his Title as Confessor or Capuchin Monk ie. Professed priest of the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin. Someone who is clear about this please edit the Infobox and put in the appropriate one. Thank you. I remain, Yours Faithfully, Savio mit electronics 11:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Images or Photographs
I feel it would enliven the article if more photographs or images are added to it. I was not able to find any non-copyright protected images that have direct relevance to Padre Pio to include in this article. Before I started contributing to this article, the article contained two images with direct relavance to Padre Pio, a photograph of Padre Pio and a photograph of the Pilgrimage Church. All the other images I added have only an indirect relationship to Padre Pio and I only added them since, as the article became a bit long after my edits, it appeared dry with only two images. If any of you have any images that could be included in this article, please do so. Thanking you, I remain, Yours faithfully, Savio mit electronics 04:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Critics of Padre Pio
I have provided more details referencing negative criticism of Padre Pio originating from Catholic sources. I have heard that that the founder of Romes University Hospital retracted his criticism of Padre Pio on his death bed but can find no hard evidence to support this. Any information on this subject would be appreciated. 23 September 2006 3:33pm --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.195.129.80 (talk • contribs).
- Greetings, friend!
- I take it you mean Fr. Agostino Gemelli. One of the sources I cited says that Monsignore Carlo Maccari retracted his criticism and prayed for St. Pio's intercession on his deathbed, but says nothing about Fr.Gemelli. Also, it in turn quotes another source, but it is not specific, (It merely says "according to Official Capuchin Literature") so I don't know how far it qualifies as hard evidence. I wonder if this should be added to the Biography section.
- I offer prayers for all Wikipedians on the Feast Day of St. Padre Pio (today, September 23).
- Peace!
- Yours,
- Savio mit electronics 15:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
