Talk:Pikey
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The name pikey is derived from the low army rank of Pikeman. Pikemen were the front line cannon fodder in the battlefield and were usually uneducated toothless simpletons from the countryside. The term Pikey soon became slang for Pikemen.
have a real problem with this article in it's current format. It amounts to a tabloid article. i.e. "Indicators of Pikeyness". I was tempted to put it on VFD, but I think that it really needs a complete rewrite. Mintguy (T) 08:02, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
- I agree that this is a terrible article, really snobbish and virtually without any substance. I propose gutting it. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 11:53, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
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- Much better now. I'd question the derivation from "turnpike" - will seek out better etymology - David Gerard 23:00, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
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- I've tried to expand upon the definition some, as it currently doesn't tell much to someone unfamiliar with the term. It's immensely difficult to try to write it without either being very non-NPOV or possibly even offensive, though, so I won't take any offence if people think my edits should be reverted, especially if they can do a better job! – OwenBlacker 00:42, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)
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I don't go with the conflation of pikey and chav. Certain aspects characteristic of the pikey may also be found amongst chavs, viz cheap and chunky jewellery, partly disassembled cars - but beside borrowing of the term to mock such aspects among chavs then I believe the disntinction remains81.170.39.245 22:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
This article makes the interesting point that "pikey" has essentially become the English word for "trailer trash". Not sure how to integrate it...
==See also== *Trailer trash
Maybe I'm just squeamish, but it looks like an offence waiting to be taken. chocolateboy 14:03, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- No, I think it's entirely right to put that See Also in — that's how I ended up explaining the term to an American friend who's visiting just the other day. I'm gonna do it now. :o) — OwenBlacker 15:16, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)
Strange to find this... At least in Norfolk (the UK) a pikey is the opposite end of the spectrum, a subculture with general skater/grunge/goth influences. This kind of pikey is known as a townie. Not sure what to do with this info, but an interesting example of geographical linguistics... --Sum0 16:13, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Townie, Pikey, Chav - look at the ChavScum website and you'll find all are synonymous in that sense. Dialectual difference only... here in Bishop's Stortford, "townie" was common until chav became ubiquitous. AKismet
[edit] Redirect
I attempted to address some of the blending together of definitions between this and townie, chav, etc.. by redirecting to Chav. See what you think. Sam [Spade] 16:58, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
There may also be a connection with the word "piker"
[edit] Pikey as a Verb
ive been trying to post a meaning for it but it keeps getting deleted. im not sure why as im actualy being serious, in no way was i being racist, sexist etc why has it been removed?
