Talk:Pierre Bourque (journalist)
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[edit] Please quit Vandalizing
Okay Arthur or whatever sock puppet you are now using, I know Warren is your number one foe. And Pierre Bourque in number 2. Do not go into a I revert, you Vandalize for Pete's sake. I also took out the article, it should not be in the discussion, beside you provided a Link to it you version. Pete Peters 30 June 2006 03:57 (UTC)
[edit] Respect for Others
Other people have put in some work into this entry. By erasing it, and adding your own stuff ment to discredit Pierre Bourque, is to not acknowledge the efforts made by others. If you have something to add, then add it, do not go about deleting others work. You have your blog linked [here], please take you anger out on it. For Admin purposes, he also has another blog here where his only two targets are Warren Kinsella and Pierre Bourque. Pete Peters 30 June 2006 03:57 (UTC)
[edit] Ryerson Review article
I have no problem with the Ryerson review article coming off this page. However, I put it here because Pete Pewters kept taking the reference off the main article in an attempt to suppress its existence.Arthur Ellis 22:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- I only reverted it because it's addition removed some previous comments on this talk page and it was rather long. Is there a source with the contents of that article available somewhere? It may be still be useful to this article. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 22:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It's survived as the fourth reference link... so far. It's the first thing vandals hit. They don't like it at all. Someone's ego is at stake. Arthur Ellis 22:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Let me be clear, I have no opinion on the content of that review. However posting the entire review here on the talk page was a bit much. Rather just mentioning the link next time http://www.rrj.ca/issue/2001/summer/351/ would be sufficient. Now, the other thing that should be done in order to maintain a neutral point of view is to question the credibility of Ryerson Review. Is it a reliable source? Personally I don't yet feel qualified to answer. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 22:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a high-quality magazine published by the Ryerson University School of Journalism in Toronto. It is the best (or second best) J-school in Canada, depending on who you talk to. The magazine has a good reputation in Canada. Arthur Ellis 22:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notice
Arthur Ellis who frequently contributes to this Entry, wrote on the Warren Kinsella Discussion page in denial of vandalizing this entry,
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- "I haven't touched the Pierre Bourque entry. I haven't even read it."
But a quick check on the history reveals that he has indeed edited the Pierre Bourque entry. I think this should be made aware to all. He also posted on my talk page that I am a sock of myself, how amusing. That is all, going for good now. Pete Peters 00:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Check your date and time stamps, you accuse him of editting the entry on June 30th, and if you check the article history he didn't begin to edit it until the 1st of July. So unless you are implying that he is one of the IPs listed in the history, I am afraid you are mistaken. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 00:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
It's part of his campaign of harrassment. he is also IP 209.148.90.129, who, I suspect, is Bourque himself, judging from the Pierre Bourque and car racing entries.Arthur Ellis 00:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually yeah, but today is Canada day, and the National Library is open for tourist, and the University is closed. Malo, please look back to many of the reverts. The I think you'll find a suspicious pattern. Cheers Pete Peters 00:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Whatever. I have never posted from "the university" or the National Library. I don't know why I would, since neither are part of my routine or even close to my home. I suspect any university's wifi system is running, but I wouldn't expect you to know much about higher education.Arthur Ellis 01:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Buddy, I am Engineer. I went to school and actually had to work for my education. You and your Arts eductaion can take you elitism and shove it. I don't respect a nimwit artsy insulting me, since my undergrad required more work than all your degrees combined.Pete Peters 02:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I take it there was no English requirement back then.209.217.123.126 11:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- Can you two see that this is going nowhere, that neither of you is advancing his case? HistoryBA
[edit] Pierre Bourque's books
A search of the National Library of Canada web site (www.collectionscanada.ca) shows, in the National Library, two books written by Pierre Bourque (born 1959). In order to get an ISBN number (and qualify as a real book), a book must be registered with, and deposited in, the National Library of Canada.64.26.147.188 23:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
One off those books, according to the Ryerson Review story, is two pages of actual prose and the rest ares pages of links.209.217.93.12
[edit] Election history
It is not necessary to describe the election in Rosemont as having been won by "Lucien Bouchard's Bloc Québécois". Bourque wasn't running against the entire party; he ran against a specific candidate, whose name was Benoît Tremblay. Bearcat 04:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I fixed it. Maybe you could have just made the edit. It's a very good point. 206.191.56.97 20:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please do not undo my Edits without cause
Hello all. Could there be a consenus forged next time someone wished to delete my article citations. I feel that an explaination agreed upon by users with accounts or IPs from different cities would be reason enough for the deletes. Happy Wikiean everybody. Pete Peters 23:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
First, the citation doesn't show anything except a claim. Second, you have blanked a paragraph regarding Bourque and the Ontario Labour Relations Board. 209.217.84.98
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- Thank you for that false claim. Before you jump to conclusion, you'll note that the issue in concern is not just citation. But a disregard regarding birthdays. See WP:BLP Pete Peters 00:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bankruptcy allegations =
"In 1990, Bourque acquired an electronics repair company in partnership with his father and became its president. Two years later, the company was bankrupt and the Ontario Labour Relations Board found it in violation of Ontario labour law for its negotiating tactics with the union. The board's majority decision also held Bourque personally liable, finding him to be "an evasive and untruthful witness, whose testimony was highly influenced by self-interest." [3]"
These allegations are very serious, they should be supported with more than a single source, moreover there's no reference to a docket or court number.
How can we rely on the accuracy of this material ?
I would suggest that this allegation be substantiated with a corroborating reference, or be supressed for lack of corroboration.
59.6.29.172 02:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)Nancy Chin
"Supressed" is quite the little word. Nancy Chin is a fake name, not a registered user, has used fifferent "names", see John Arpin, Mark Bourrie discussions. Source for this is Ryerson Review article, which uses Globe and Mail as source. Will back this up with G&M article. Have rted vanity padding, misquotes of Ryerson Review article by 59.6.29.172, suggest others do same.209.217.84.98 03:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC) 209.217.84.98 03:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I have been waiting for you Mr. Bourrie.
You are well aware that all the entries I placed were bona fide.
All those Magma IP's in Ottawa which you are using do not mask your identity there are other ways of finding out about you.
I did not place any disparaging comments on your page, did I ?
Why are you so angry and jealeous of the accomplishments of others ?
Is it because you are so insecure about your own ?
59.6.29.172 03:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)Nancy Chin
Well, "Nancy", you might want to get a real account.
Mr. Bourrie, I see you do not deny that you are Mark Bourrie.
I have ONE real account... you have one real Magma and MANY fake (National Gallery, Library of Parliament, Parliamentary Press Gallery.
You spent much time with Peter Woodcock, you have learned well....
59.6.29.172 03:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)Nancy Chin
Yup. Child killer. That's Mark Bourrie. Like I said, you might want to set up a real account, Nancy. I'm an IP. I don't pretend to be otherwise. Typing "Nancy Chin" after your Ip doesn't fool anyone. BTW, you were "Kim Lee" on the Mark Bourrie alk page. What's with the Orientalism?
You have yet to deny that you are Mark Bourrie and you won't because you are.
59.6.29.172 04:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)Nancy Chin
[edit] Birthday
Pete Peters claims Bourque is an important public figure. Therefore, under Wiki's bio policy, [WP:BLP] we can put his birthday in. The Nascar oldtimes league bio page also lists Bourque's birthday. I don't believe Bourque is an important public figure, nor a particularly important figure of any kind, so I'll take it out. I do note, in passing, Pete Peters and his friends discussing ways of publishing Mark Bourrie's birth date. 209.217.84.98 03:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ryerson Online story
It is not a viable source (as opposed to the properly-researched magazine piece. It's an obvious suck piece and contains many errors, including the one that says Bourque "served several years on council". In fact, he served eight months, was defeated in the follwing election, ran again in 1996 and lost.209.217.84.98 03:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
This last entry is by Vandal: Mark Bourrie, aka Arthur Ellis aka Isoletus and of course Ceraurus [1]
Mr. Bourrie has for some reason vandalised these wiki pages on a continuous basis: Rachel Marsden, Pierre Bourque, Bourque Newswatch, Warren Kinsella.
It is clear at this point that Wikipedia administrators are unable to ensure that he doesn't vandalise entries and defame other wikipedia contributors.
Wikipedia's reputation is now at stake.
[edit] Hey Bourrie or "Bourry"
Francs2000 posted a few choice comments in response to your entry in his user page. But staying glued to this page you have surely seen them.
You
Seems some people let a little Wiki power go to their heads. A response like "whatever" probably wouldn't have happened before your application for adminship. 206.191.33.99 16:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Him
How dare you judge me like that. You don't know who I am or what I do, neither do you know what sort of a person I am. Kindly do not attempt to contact me again. -- Francs2000 02:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... Did he respond to your gay bashing? Or maybe you don't want to talk about that? 209.217.83.31 02:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blanking
If you are unfamiliar with Canadian media, do not blabk parts of this article without discussing changes on the discussion page.
[edit] NASCAR Busch
Does any know enough about the NASCAR Busch East league to be able to say whether it's notable? Seems pretty small-time when the season leader has only earned about $28,000.209.217.99.125 00:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WT#
Huh, what is all this talk about. Anyways, the April's fools prank has been re-inserted. If you wish to alter this passage, please discuss it first. If you are an anonymous IP residing from Ottawa, your suggestions may be taken with a grain of salt. However a consensus should be established before Anonymous IP's from Ottawa move with such haste. Pete Peters 02:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vanity and uncorroborated material
My vote is to reject the vanity items: Nascar (many drivers, few notables), the internet books, the lost election (why does someone deserve an entry for losing one small election a long time ago, he's not Putin), the other student journalist stuff, where's the support for that ???
The only thing that's worth keeping is that we has a news web site and the few personal entries on his family.
195.239.158.54 04:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC) Yuri
Agreed, leave out the vanity Nascar and the Bankruptcy stuff. Who cares ? did he go to jail for this ? was he charged with a crime or something ?
61.32.109.81 04:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)Chu
Journalists are rarely tagged as liars and evasive witnesses by government tribunals. This guy claims to be the Canadian Matt Drude, an Internet journalist. The material is backed with a citation. It stays in. 209.217.66.179 04:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm glad to see the editors of this page reading the talk page. However, I have blocked a couple of the editors here for excessive reverting under the 3-revert rule and I ask the rest of you to please discuss more and stop the edit warring. Mangojuicetalk 12:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kinsella article on Bourque
Someone keepss linking to a PDF of a column in the National Post on Bourque. The National Post actually keeps the column behind a subscriber wall. Using it here would be engaging in breach of copyright, as the National Post owns copyright tl everything printed in it. This is an ongoing dispute with freelancers (most notably the Periodal Writers Association of Canada) but Post policy is to make all writers and freelancers sign away all rights to their work.64.26.148.240 14:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- If the National Post has a problem with what some other site has done with copy-righted material, that is between it and the site in question. Linking by itself does not infringe on that copyright. I'm willing to listen to arguments as to the value of the link or not, but the copy-right quesiton is to my mind irrelevant. (BTW, as a user under an indefinite block, you should not be posting under this IP or any other.) Bucketsofg✐ 15:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- The other point, of course, is that the link is to the site of the author of the piece: Kinsella wrote it for the NP. We surely have to assume that he has their permission. Bucketsofg✐ 15:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Really? We have to assume, huh? You're pretty good at taking stuff off Nexis and InfoMart, putting them on your blog pages and linking to them (like in the Marsden pages). I don't think it would be wise to take copyright advice from you. 64.26.147.136 16:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NASCAR Diversity Driver ?!?
A Google search of the NASCAR Diversity Driver program shows it was set up to bring Balcks, Hispanics and women into NASCAR. Please, do tell me which one of these is Pierre Bourque passing himself off as?64.26.147.136 16:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Maybe there's a diversity category for unskilled middle-aged sons of politically-connected millionaire convicted tax cheats. 64.26.147.136 19:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
