Talk:Pierre-Auguste Renoir

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This page was another example of a half-hearted effort. I spent a long time fixing it up plus numerous others that were similarly not worth crap. I note someone changed my caption format, which I did accordinging to the most efficent and professional manner. It is time the Gods of Wikipedia adopt a proper Encyclopedia format instead of a massive paragraph full of stuff (and no, it DOES NOT HELP with a google search -- people come to QUALITY without without the need for gimmicks):

Name - dates (years only), occupation

PERIOD, NO MORE, NO LESS.

In the body put full dates and close anything done on a person or any living creature with a death date and, because no other encyclopedia does it and a lot of people want to know, (that's called marketing), make an effort to put in their burial place....DW

make a suggestion on the manual of style page. -- Tarquin 20:22 Jan 14, 2003 (UTC)

Preferably on Wikipedia_talk:Manual of Style, let's discuss before changing. Birth and death dates are much debated. Ortolan88

[edit] Arrested as a spy?

The article formerly read, "During the Paris Commune in 1871, Pierre-Auguste Renoir was arrested as a government spy. His life was saved when he was recognized by one of the Commune leaders, whom Renoir had himself protected on another occasion."

I find only one reference on the web (in English) to anything like this.

http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/000637.html - discusses an incident when Renoir assisted agitator, Raoul Rigault, but doesn't discuss any subsequent event involving Rigault.

A google search for +Renoir +Rigault turns up some sites, mostly in French that I can't read.

One of them, http://www.coppoweb.com/merson/chroniques/fr.commune.php , translated by google reads, "Renoir , was painting on the edges of the Seine when communards took it for a spy of Of Versailles and undertook to throw it to water. It had its safety only to his friend Raoul Rigault, a young refugee whom it formerly had accomodated and hidden in the forest of Fontainebleau." Which sounds more like a vigilante type action than an arrest.

So, I've tweaked that sentence to read, "During the Paris Commune in 1871, while painting by the Seine River, a Commune group thought he was spying and they were about to throw him in the river when a Commune leader, Raoul Rigault, recognized Renoir as the man who protected him on an earlier occasion."

Please change it if you have a reference that tells the story differently. And, please, add the reference.But I am still wrong no matter how hard I try!!!

--sparkit 02:33, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Name of painting

I believe the name of the painting which is titled On the Terrace, is actually called Two Sisters —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.13.90.80 (talk) 05:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC).