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Contents 1 Other Movies 2 Shogun? 3 Remington Steele 4 Accent? 5 Birthplace:Navan 6 Timothy Dalton 7 Anglo-Irish to Irish 8 Year range as Bond 9 Cubby Broccoli 10 Real birthdate

[edit] Other Movies

Needs some more info on his other movies - while the list is there there's no mention of any of his other films.

[edit] Shogun?

I'm not 100% sure, but wasn't Pierce Brosnan in some TV miniseries set in Hong Kong? Called "Shogun"? Some adaptation of a series of books by an american or british author? If so, why no mention of it on this page?

edit: Sorry, not Shogun. Noble House was what I was looking for.

[edit] Remington Steele

• needs checking, but IIRC he was on the shortlist for Bond when Dalton got it, but was locked into Remington Steele.

• • I think he was actually announced as having the part but then Remington Steelegot was unexpectedly revived and a clause in his contract locked him in.

• • • The article is correct as of today. Only after he was officially announced for Bond did NBC see fit to renew the television show and enforce his contract. --Dhartung | Talk 10:09, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accent?

Should something be said on his accent? In the Bond films he talks a mix of RP/irish/american...

[edit] Birthplace:Navan

Peirce was born in Navan, so I'll change it if no one minds. Fergananim

No, according to his official webiste he was born in "Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland". See [1]. K1Bond007 01:15, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

It is actually wrong. Drogheda is partially in Meath and partially in Louth. The hospital in which he was born is in the County Meath part (by a couple of metres! I was born there too so I know the location). People often forget that Drogheda straddles two counties, so I've removed the County Louth bit. It is also irrelevant. Navan people, and people from most of Meath are all born in that hospital. There is no maternity hospital in Meath other than that one (that is only in Meath by a few metres) but in a town often (wrongly) said to be in County Louth alone. So the country location of the Our Lady's Hospital is irrelevant. He is a Navanman. Like all Navan people he simply couldn't be technically born there and his mother went to OLH to give birth, then came back to Navan afterwards. FearÉIREANN\^{(caint) 01:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)}

Lourdes hospital is firmly in the Louth part of Drogheda. Trust me, I live in the meath part and although im not sure where the border is exactly I know that everywhere in the town on the northside of the Boyne is in Louth. However I think that the addition of his exact birthplace is pointless.

Wrong hospital. His official website says "1953 -- May 16th – Pierce Brendan Brosnan born at St. Mary’s Hospital, Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland." K1Bond007 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timothy Dalton

I've made some changes to the article that hopefully are non-controversial. These are on the Dalton films where there's evidence of different editors pulling different ways; i.e. someone says "Dalton's films flopped" and someone else adds "but they did OK in Europe". Or someoen says "the Dalton films were unsuccessful" and someone else adds "but critically acclaimed", etc... I've tried to simplify this because The Living Daylights wasn't unsuccessful it was a worldwide smash and was a big hit in the US. Licence to Kill was a hit, I think even in the States, but for a Bond film its US returns were disappointing. However, this is relative and it isn't the same thing as being commercially unsuccessful. I've also removed the bit about Dalton's films being critically acclaimed. I think this is someone, again, trying to balance things up, but although The Living Daylights was well-received Licence to Kill got very mixed reviews. This is also, of course, an article on Brosnan so we don't need to go on about the Dalton films more than is really necessary for context. JW 20:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

"Licence to Kill" got 80% good reviews from preview audiences and only did disappointingly due to a poor marketing campaign in the States. Dalton remains the best actor to play Bond, with his RADA training and experience in Shakespeare, and he is unquestionably the most accurate 007 in relation to the novels.

[edit] Anglo-Irish to Irish

The introduction stated that Pierce is an "Anglo-Irish actor". I changed it to "Irish" as I don't understand why he should be called anything else. He lived in London between the ages of 11 to 32, and is currently a US citizen, but I have never heard him refer to himself as anything other than Irish. Cheers. Fergananim 09:23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Year range as Bond

The Bond chart at the bottom says Brosnan was Bond until 2002. I believe it should actually say either 2003 or 2004 as he played the role one last time in the videogame Everything or Nothing. 23skidoo 12:37, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree only because I think we should limit it to the films. If we include video games then we have to squeeze in Sean Connery for the latest release and that would be just "messed up" to consider. And then we might have to evaluate Never Say Never Again too. Too confusing. Keep it official. Keep it films. My opinion anyway. K1Bond007 13:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean Sir Sean Connery is apparently providing the voice for the video game version of "From Russia with Love", so using that logic one could say Connery played the role of James Bond until 2005!

[edit] Cubby Broccoli

"A number of actors were then screentested for the role, notably Sam Neill, but ultimately were passed over by Cubby Broccoli."

Is that a typo? I've never heard of anyone named Cubby Broccoli.

Broccoli was the producer of the James Bond films starting from Dr. No - Licence to Kill (although he had a major impact on GoldenEye and probably Tomorrow Never Dies too). Cubby is his well-known nickname. See Albert R. Broccoli. K1Bond007 04:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Real birthdate

Is there any way of determining whether Brosnan was born in 1953, as he claims, or 1951 as many sources say?

His website says 1953. I think we should go with that. K1Bond007 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The National Records say he was born in 1951. Also Halliwell's Who's Who in the Movies (2006 edition) says 1951. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.129 (talk • contribs) .

As stated his website says 1953. From everything I've read he himself has said he was born in 1953 over and over. Contrary to what was posted in an edit summary, his own birth certificate is actually available for purchase online (at various times on eBay) and it says 1953. The certificate was actually posted online by his agent, however, it appears to have been taken down. I suppose if we want to be really thorough about this we can have some sort of carbon dating done :P K1Bond007 19:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you actually seen this National Record saying 1951? If so please find a way to cite this so that all readers can see for verifiability. Searching on this I can't find anything to back up your claim other than a couple websites that asset it's 1951 without any source or discussion. First you said it was the birth certificate, but I now know that's false. K1Bond007 19:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

So Brosnan gets his agent to put out some fake birth certificate to make people think he isn't too old to keep playing Bond? Wow, what hard evidience. And yes, I have been to the National Records Office in London where I looked Brosnan up - and he was born in 1951. Not surprising that he lied about his age, so did Lazenby (born 1933, claimed 1939) and Dalton (born 1944, claimed 1946).

• What would Brosnan's birth certificate be doing in the National Records Office in London, seeing as how he was born in the Republic of Ireland? And if it wasn't his birth cert you saw, then precisely which document did you see with the year "1951" on it? Demiurge 20:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It was his NHS and Social Security records from the 1970s.

• I'm pretty certain people's NHS and Social Security records (even those of celebrities) aren't available for public viewing, so while you may indeed be correct, this claim is unverifiable. Demiurge 15:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)