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Hello, Peter Horn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] CAF Beasain

This article has been speedily deleted because it consists of nothing besides a link to another site. If you wish to create an article about the subject, please do so, being sure that the information is verifiable and based on reliable sources. howcheng {chat} 19:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC) The article Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles covers this topic well. --Peter Horn 14:41, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signatures

Although you should Sign your posts on talk pages you should not sign your contributions in the article namespace. Thryduulf 00:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Large number of edits to rail tracks

I noticed the large number of edits that you're making to rail tracks yesterday and today. In order to avoid edit conflicts and potential revert problems, you might consider putting {{inuse}} at the top of the article and state how long you expect to continue working on the article (by putting something like {{inuse|1 hour}} for example), as is shown in the examples on the template page. When you're done with your edits, remove the template. Thanks! Slambo (Speak) 21:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC) You asked me to refresh your memory, OK, this is what I was referring to. --Peter Horn 05:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for edit summary

Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 0% for major edits and 0% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 0 minor edits in the article namespace.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear impolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 04:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Capital Metropolitan Transportation Authority, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing! (Your edit, source.) jareha 22:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capital Metro Commuter Rail

[edit] Capital Metro Commuter Rail

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We appreciate your contributions to the Capital Metro Commuter Rail article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing! jareha 23:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Light rail

Just a quick note: You're only supposed to bold titles of articles or alternative titles. For instance, in Light rail the phrases "light rail," "light rail transit," "LRT" and "Light rail vehicles" appear in bold. "Ground level power supply" should not be bolded since it has its own article. See also Wikipedia: Manual of Style. Foxmulder 02:18, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Another note about links: Usually we don't like to put things like "See some other related article" at the end of a paragraph, especially not when there is already a link to it in the paragraph. The great thing about Wikipedia is really that we don't have to do that; we can just make the word itself into a link right in the sentence where it first appears. Also linking to a specific section within another article is usually unnecessary, for example a link to the "Description" section of "Conduit Car" is unnecessary because really you're talking about conduit cars in general, and on top of that the article only has three sections, so it's not terribly hard to navigate. Other than that, great job editing. Keep up the good work! Foxmulder 19:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. the reason I've noticed your edits is I have light rail-related articles on my watchlist; it's a great tool if you didn't know about it already. Foxmulder 19:28, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I've just tidied Rhaetian Railway along the lines suggested by Foxmulder. ATB! --Moonraker88 08:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing template?

I'll need a little memory refresher to answer the question you left on my talk page. I don't remember typing that phrase. Thanks. Slambo (Speak) 12:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC) Let me rephrase my quetion: How do I use the template? --Peter Horn 05:21, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

You recently created Texas Pacific Transportation. I believe you intended to create a redirect. To do this in future follow instructions at Wikipedia:Redirect I'll study the redirect instructions carefully for future applications. --Peter Horn 05:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links to MEXLIST

The links to MEXLIST on articles about specific railroads will probably get deleted, (not by me, but by others) unless the link points to a page related to the railroad in question. Your enthusiasm for letting people know about that invaluable resource, is, I'm sure, much appreciated.

Tubezone 08:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

the links point to a

I believe I'm not the only one to insert a link to MEXLIST, at any rate, what would be the best spot for it? --Peter Horn 05:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

MEXLIST links should go on pages with general information on Mexican railroads, rather than specific railways. The List of Mexican railroads is a good example of a place where it should be. Tubezone 06:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

"kapich" --Peter Horn 23:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question of Rail gauge

Hello Peter, hope you won't mind my mentioning it, it's not the first time somebody has tried to change the FR gauge from 600mm to 597mm (see the history). Be assured the same gauge is known in mainland Europe as 600mm and in the UK as 1 foot 11½ inches. It does not help to be so precise. The actual gauge will vary between about 595mm and 605mm depending on local circumstances - even on the same line. FR stock runs happily in France and vica-versa. Please change it back. NoelWalley 14:35, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello Noel, 1) Has already been done 2) in the case of Hong Kong & List of standard gauge by country, the 3 mm difference between 1435 mm & 1432 mm would also be quite irrelevant and not preclude thru running from one to the other. --Peter Horn 21:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm still waiting to hear about this 3 mm difference in Hong Kong. since the 4 mm difference between Russia & Finland are said not to cause any problems. See below:

Russian Empire

....Now Russia and most of the former Russian Empire, including the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, the Caucasian and Central Asian republics, and Mongolia, have the official Russian measurement of 1520 mm, 4 mm narrower than 5 ft (1524 mm), though rolling stock of both gauges is interchangeable in practice.

Finland

Finland, which was a Grand Duchy under Russia in the 19th century, uses 5 ft (1524 mm) gauge.

Peter Horn 23:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Also this:

Iberian peninsula

Later, following adoption of the metric system, these two gauges were defined as 1674 mm (5 ft 5.9 in) and 1665 mm (5 ft 5.55 in) respectively. The gauges were sufficiently close to allow inter-operation of trains.

Peter Horn 23:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Peter Horn 00:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki links and empty articles

To link to a foreign language Wikipedia, please use

[[de:Rigi-Bahnen]].

And please don't add empty articles like Niklaus Riggenbach; if you would like help in translating the article from German, you can ask at the German translation desk or at the German noticeboard. Thanks, and happy editing! Kusma (討論) 23:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello Kusma, I have filled out the Niklaus Riggenbach article just a little bit and I have reqested a translation in the bio section. --Peter Horn 21:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interurban

On March 5th you accidentally deleted the majority of the article Interurban, possibly because of a section editing bug (you saved one section as the whole article). I just fixed that and re-applied your edits of they were thus lost. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 10:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Ever heard of a bug free program? --Peter Horn 13:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Never! Certainly not MediaWiki. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 00:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of suburban and commuter rail systems

Hi! I've corrected some links. Could you try again and describe the troubles?-- Nixer 07:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


I'm still getting this message on some Russian map links: Hello 24.203.253.234, Sorry, this area is not for passengers...

Station master --Peter Horn 16:49, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Russia
Arkhangelsk Elektrichka Map: [1]
Barnaul Elektrichka Map: [2]

The first is the map link which is troublesome, there may be others like it. The next one down from it opens up properly. Peter Horn 03:07, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{Train topics}}

Please join the discussion on reducing the links in this template. I thought you'd like to give some thoughts since you've been editing this template. Slambo (Speak) 22:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transports de Martigny et Régions SA (TMR)

Transports de Martigny et Régions SA (TMR) comprises two physical railways:

  • Chemin de Fer de Martigny au Châtelard (MC)
  • Chemin de fer Martigny-Orsières-Le Châble (MO)

That's why I corrected your interwiki link edits...--Klaus with K 13:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability question

An essay has started on the notability of some railway stations. User:Mangoe/timetable. Join in and have your say. SilkTork 11:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your contributions to Trailer (vehicle)

I noticed you made quite a big contribution to the trailer article, maybe you would be interested in clarifying this section: Types of trailers. Currently it reads "There are five main types of trailer, defined by their axle arrangement and method of combination.", however, there are more than five types of trailers listed under that section. Much thanks. --Porqin 19:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

--Porqin: I'll have to do a bit of research on this and get back to this topic. --Peter Horn 18:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

--Porqin: I have revised this section of Trailer (vehicle) so that there are now five main types of trailers and three types of trailer arrangements. This should clear up any confusion.

Cheers, --Peter Horn 18:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compressor

It's just that the first thing when I think of a Compressor (I'm an audio guy) is a Compressor-the Dynamics Processor (Audio level compression). The Compression article does an ok job (albeit, in a clumsy way) of covering some of the uses of compressor. So, I think that Compressor needs a disambiguation and not necessarily a redirect to a specific meaning (Gas compressor) in the mechanical domain. best, --Ravelite 22:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: External links

I saw your note early this morning and moved it to my talk page. I intend to take a closer look tonight after I get dinner in the oven. I've got a couple photos from a trip to Colorado earlier this month where we rode the Pike's Peak Cog Railway; they use an Abt system too, so I need to go through them and look at adding the best images to the article. As a quick side note, use my talk page to send me a message rather than my user page; thanks. Slambo (Speak) 19:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I haven't had a chance to look at this further. Sheesh, I've got to work from my user talk page more often. B-) Thanks for the reminder. Slambo (Speak) 20:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] de:Niklaus Riggenbach translation

Done. Also, see comments at Talk:Niklaus Riggenbach —QuicksilverT @ 19:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Henri Sarolea translation cleanup needed

I see from your user page that you claim en-4 skills in your Wikipedia:Babel table and are a native of the Netherlands. Would you care to take a stab at cleaning up Henri Sarolea? —QuicksilverT @ 19:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rack Railway

Sorry you're so bitter. You edits are not deleted; there are special rules for format of links. You can find them in WP:Style and connected pages. They should be in the form: [http://de wikipedia.org/wiki/etc.]. A even better idea would be to translate the pages you linked directly into English. Good work!! --Attilios 13:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move material

Move all the text to Portainer and make this article a #REDIRECT Portainer.

Peter Horn 14:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Peter Horn 02:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Road Train and Road train

The two all but duplicate each other and most, if not all of the former should be deleted from this article. There also appears to be a lot of duplication(s) in the rest of the Transportation article. Peter Horn 00:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Peter Horn 02:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Share Taxi and Share taxi

More of the same unnecessary (?) duplication, and there is no doubt more yet. Peter Horn 01:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Peter Horn 02:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pacific Crest Trail

You recently made an edit to Pacific Crest Trail: I'm having trouble understanding the intent of the last few changes. It sort of looks like you were adding a footnote elevation, is that right? If so, you could write <ref> elevation numbers </ref> in the body of the text where you want to see the little [2] (or whatever number is assigned for it). More information is at WP:FN Thanks for the metric conversions throughout the article! — EncMstr 19:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dealing with templates

Hi Peter Horn. No problem. It was a bit confusing to track that one down. I'm afraid I created a complicated section of the PCT article with all the cites and references embedded in an infobox template. No wonder you're asking about templates.

A template behaves like a macro (#define) in C or C++, string variables in Perl, Java, Word for Windows form processing, etc., if you've used any of those.

To reference a template, write wikitext with two double curly braces around the template name: {{template name}} There's a good introduction in the last section of Editing basics of Help:Editing.

Templates can be passed parameters. The vertical bar (or pipe) is always the delimiter, if one is needed: {{some template name | parameter 1 | parameter 2 | named_parameter = value | named_parameter2 = value2 }}. This mixes positional and named parameters, which is acceptable, though it seems like all recently written templates use named parameters.

For me, the hardest part of dealing with templates is finding the appropriate one to use. Anymore, I have pretty good luck just guessing and using search to get close.

To look at and see documentation for the cite web template, type into the search box template:cite web then press Go. Some templates have usage documentation on the Template page, others have it on the associated discussion page. To see the actual template code, click on view source or edit. The former appears for protected articles. This particular template uses heavy conditional logic, so the source is kinda ugly.

Does that answer your question?

BTW, It would be much easier to reply if you signed your talk page posts with four tilde's (~~~~) as gets replaced with your username, timestamp and your username is wikilinked to your user page. Like this: — EncMstr 07:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


Hello again Peter Horn.

You can view the template {{1m}} by typing template:1m in the search box and pressing go. If editing is permitted, the "edit" tab will appear (otherwise it says "view source").

Before you change it, it would be a good idea to click on "what links here" for template:1m to make sure the predominant usage is compatible with any change you make. Beware that some templates are referenced by thousands of articles. Tread lightly.

This template has this for its contents:
1&nbsp;[[metre|m]] (3&nbsp;[[Foot (unit of length)|ft]] 3&nbsp;[[inch|in]])<noinclude>[[Category:Rail transport gauge templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

Templates often use more intense and complicated wikimarkup than articles, but this one isn't bad at all. The &nbsp;'s are HTML non breaking spaces: they are just like the space character, except the words on either side are not split for paragraph wrapping.

The <noinclude> tag differentiates between wiki text which is "transcluded" and which is displayed on the template's page. In this case, the rail transport gauge category applies to the template itself. Articles referencing the template are not included in the category.

If that's confusing, just think of the noinclude tag as a comment boundary. Be careful not to introduce anything—especially whitespace—outside the tag which might affect the layout of pages which use it, the most tempting might be to put noinclude at the start of a line.

— EncMstr 08:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


Babel is a template which takes parameters. Even among templates, it is unusual because the parameters are expected to be names of templates.

There are several methods to control the layout of user boxes (for example, recycling, vegetarian). The easiest to use are tables and more templates. Look at the text of my user page, and you'll notice it starts with the Babel template (with a long parameter list. After the closing }}, there is {{Boxboxtop}} with a few optional parameters. Then there's a long list of user boxes, followed by {{Boxboxbottom}}. Boxboxtop and Boxboxbottom create a structure which includes the items between them.

On your Afrikaans user page, there is a babel template which is creating your language list. — EncMstr 23:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures from the German Wikipedia

I responded here. — EncMstr 03:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding See also sections to articles

Hi Peter,

I see you've been adding a "See also" link to 800 mm (2 ft 7½ in) to several articles (for example Brienz Rothorn Bahn). I don't see the purpose of this link. The linked article isn't specific to railways, it just gives a comparison of different magintiudes. It doesn't seem like a useful link to the articles. Can you tell me why you are adding this particular link? Many thanks, Gwernol 02:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation request

Hi Peter, I've translated Carl Roman Abt per your request. I'd be grateful if you'd look over the article when you have time and let me know if I've made any mistakes. Best wishes, --YFB ¿ 02:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, er... thanks for the list of articles to translate - I have to admit (no offence intended) that I'm not massively interested in mountain railways and only picked up the Carl Roman Abt translation because it looked reasonably bite-sized and had been awaiting translation a while. I'm pretty busy (final year of university) at the moment but I'll try to find time to tackle some of the articles you've listed whenever possible. If you're hoping for rapid progress, though, you might be better off asking elsewhere. Sorry if I'm a disappointment! All the best, --YFB ¿ 04:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terminus Centre-Ville (AMT)

Hi Peter. First, thanks for your numerous contributions to the transit pages in Montreal. To answer your question, ALL terminuses (termini??) are under the responsibility of the AMT. This includes, Panama, Cote-Vertu, Henri-Bourassa, Radisson and all the others listed here Alex@MTRL 03:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template Added

Hi Peter, I just created the AMTbus template. Please feel free to use it and modify it if you create more terminus pages! Alex@MTRL 03:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replies

Thanks for your answers, I'll make the necessary modifocations & I'll see where I can fit in your new template. The reason that I was able to make all these contributions is that I live in Chomedey. BTW, personally I prefer "termini".

Peter Horn 18:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

AMT Termini

[edit] CIT Haut Richelieu

For your info, peter, CIT Haut Richelieu is now known as Ville de Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu (I know, AMT page isn't updated).

Alex (kellerGraham)

[edit] Rack railway (2)

Hi Peter, it looks like these can all be transfered to commons. I'll try to do this later today. Best, Gwernol 21:40, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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