User talk:Peter1968

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Contents 1 Image Habit of F. australis 2 Desert raisin 3 Image attribution 4 Image Tagging Image:Woollynightshade.jpg 5 Image Tagging Image:Tamarillofruit.jpg 6 Image Tagging for Image:Bush_raisin.jpg 7 Image copyright problem with Image:Richmondriver.jpg 8 Castanospora, et al 9 Signature Dramas 10 Jack Vance 11 Peirce vs. Pierce vs. Pearce 12 Talk:Jack Vance 13 List of faux pas AfD 14 Jacaranda 15 System Shock userbox 16 1-Mahfuzl

[edit] Image Habit of F. australis

Hi Peter, i'm verry glad about your new image Image:Medium_crowash.jpg. Is there a way to put this to Commons? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Flindersia_australis

I was working on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flindersia_australis

Bye, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:HWe 22:33, 26 Mai 2006

 Much thanks. I do not have this species ever seen in Germany  ;) 21:10, 4 Jun 2006

[edit] Desert raisin

Hello! The article that you've recently created has the title 'Desert raisin', but in the text you call the plant the 'Australian desert raisin', and in the taxo-box you used the alternative name (I've changed that one). In order to make them consistent, should I change the article title or the text? Which is the correct name? Thanks Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:47, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'm moving it now. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:08, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image attribution

Hi Peter, thanks for adding the image for Allan Cunningham. But could you please go back and tag the image as public domain, art, or whatever is appropriate (i.e. with {{PD}}, {{Art}}, etc.) to ensure that it is not deleted? Please also provide a link to your online source... Thanks, Fawcett5 17:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Peter, thanks for updating those image tags. I also am pretty sure that 2D images of public domain art are fair dealing in Australia...but it doesn't really matter, since the Wiki servers are in the US and are therefore covered by US law and precedent. Cheers, Fawcett5 13:16, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Woollynightshade.jpg

This image may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Woollynightshade.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairusein|article name}} or {{fairuse}}. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Admrboltz (T | C) 22:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Tamarillofruit.jpg

This image may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Tamarillofruit.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stan 17:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Bush_raisin.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Bush_raisin.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see User talk:Carnildo/images. 14:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Richmondriver.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Richmondriver.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator.

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you have questions about copyright tagging of images, post on Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags or User talk:Carnildo/images. 13:16, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Castanospora, et al

Hi Peter - it's standard botanical citation practice. Check the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature, or any flora. Bear in mind that very often, the species is transferred to a new genus by someone other than the original describer, so the author of the species is often not the same as the author of the genus. Thus not citing the author leaves the data uncertain. And yes, if there are instances of pages on wiki where the citation is not complete, they do need to be added.

For an example of the complexity that can occur, the species Argania spinosa was first described by Linnaeus as Sideroxylon spinosum L. This was then transferred to its own new genus Argania by Roem. & Schult. as Argania sideroxylon Roem. & Schult., who established the new genus correctly but used an invalid name as they did not follow Linnaeus' original epithet. This error was later corrected by Skeels, who provided the correct name in the new genus, Argania spinosa (L.) Skeels. Thus the author of the genus is different to the authors of the species.

The Castanospora example where all the names are described by a single author is actually a very unusual case. This does not make author citation any different - you still need to cite it fully so as to indicate who did what. - MPF 13:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signature Dramas

I can't get my signature to work. [[User:Peter1968|<span style="color: red; background-color: black;">'''♠ Peter ♠'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Peter1968|'''<font color="Blue">talk</font>'''}]]

Which is doing this Peter1968♠ Peter ♠ ^talk 15:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC) I want my red name to be the clickable thingy!

Hello! I have come in response to your {{helpme}} call. Your signature looks mostly okay and the red part links to your user page, which is what I guess you wanted. However, I suppose you want to get rid of the extra "Peter1968" before the red part too.

Please check your user preferences; in the "User profile" tab, is the "Raw signature" option checked? If not, check it. That will fix a fair number of signature-related problems. :-) Kimchi.sg | talk 15:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

♠ Peter ♠ ^talk 16:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

♠ Peter ♠ 16:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Woohoo, thanks Kimchi.sg

No problem, glad that it solves your problem. :) Kimchi.sg | talk 01:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

P e t e r 15:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jack Vance

Thanks for the heads-up! I tried pouring a little cold water on the simmering dispute, we'll see if it helps :) Ahasuerus 16:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peirce vs. Pierce vs. Pearce

I think it's just a hangover from the days when spelling wasn't standardized -- supposedly there are a hundred or so ways of spelling Shakespeare, for instance. But the Peirce variation, I think, is much more common in upper New England than anywhere else, at least it used to be. When I grew up in Maine Peirce as opposed to Pierce wasn't that uncommon. At Harvard there was Charles S. Peirce, who pronounced it Purse. And there was an up-scale grocer/wine merchant in Boston named S. S. Peirce whose pronunciation was uncertain. Once you get out of New England, however, Peirce becomes pretty unusual. I think there is, or was, a newspaper columnist named Neal Peirce or something similar.... Hayford Peirce 17:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Jack Vance

(I'm bringing this here so that the thread on the talk page will close, hope that's ok with you).

You said:

"We" don't "own" this page, Renesis13, and neither do you. Anyone may add, amend, refute, alter, etc, as per Wikipedia's charter. What I object to, and I'm sure I'm not alone, is the merely curious coming in here, pursing their virtual lips and telling us we're not sourcing stuff, or we're not writing articles true to the spirit of some policy, etc. Seeing that the merely curious are as much editor as I am, it has to be asked: why can't the merely curious make these changes for the better, rather than tell us "regulars" here what to do? If any of these merely curious feel a need for change, go ahead and make them, and don't expect others to do the work for you. Fair enough request, don't you think? Peter1968 08:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope I don't come across like I'm trying to own the page -- I'm certainly not, and I'm not trying to take away anyone's right to edit it either. Let me just say that in the very beginning, I just thought Arvin Sloane's removal of the {{WPBiography}} template was inappropriate, and baffling. Blanking, threats, and insults are a problem no matter what is involved. He seems to feel that I have come in to lecture "all you regulars", but I don't know what I've done to give that impression. I do think that the attitude of the main editors of the page seems to reflect a bit of a feeling of ownership, but I can understand that you wouldn't like being told what to do by the "merely curious" that just happen by. My guess is editors who came across as insulting and uptight with the rules were merely trying to spur some improvement in the article that they were unable to do themselves, but it is a shame if they offended you. I personally know nothing about Jack Vance. It would be very easy for me to determine if a particular fact is sourced or not, but very difficult for me to fix it without just removing it. That's why I would ask someone who knows what they are doing to make a change -- not to say you are doing something wrong, but just because continual improvement is the way things work around here. By the way, I assume you already knew this, but the WPBiography template is a standard template being placed on ALL biographies. It is not saying that anything is wrong with the Jack Vance article in particular. There is also nothing bad about a "B Class" rating. It is just below an official Good Article, which is actually a formal review process. It could be reviewed for that right now if you wanted. -- Renesis13 08:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding my personal attacks comment on the Template talk page... you said the following: You guys (administrators, super-active Wikipedia addicts, template inventors, bored individuals, etc) seem hell-bent on converting Wikipedia from being an encyclopedia editable and readable by anyone, into some sort of esoteric cross-referenced morass of hypercomplexity." to me and Gamaliel regarding the template (a template that is being put on all biographies) that we were just trying to keep in tact (I'm neither administrator, super-active, or a template inventor, and I object to being called bored! :) ). Also, the phrases "child monitor", "hall monitor", and "guideline fetishism" aren't exactly civil. However, I'm not saying that you made some grieve personal attack... just that the preceding comments just make the situation worse. -- Renesis13 16:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

You're certainly entitled to have that opinion. I probably should have never stepped in on the Jack Vance page, since it seems you're correct about it -- it appears to be lost... a corner of Wikipedia owned by a few academics on the topic who will insist on offending any newcomers. I was trying to help Wikipedia as a whole, but I guess I've learned my lesson. -- Renesis13 16:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right. And the thing is, Gamaliel isn't even hindering editing or discussion of the article by removing that section. Archiving an inactive discussion that wasn't useful anyway in no way hurts any of the editors slamming him for it -- they can still get to it, just one click away. It's as if they are just insulted that someone would step on their precious territory. I appreciate having been able to work things out calmly with you and I apologize sincerely for grouping you in with that lot. It's a mess. Just curious, since you've been there for so long and are familiar with the topic--do you have any idea why it's like that? Does it have something to do with Jack Vance's philosophies or the nature of his fans? -- Renesis (talk) 17:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of faux pas AfD

Howdy, you have recently voted delete in this AfD with concerns about the article promoting sterotypes and misunderstandings. The article has undergone a substantial rewrite since you voiced your concerns and I would like to invite you to take a look at the new version. In trimming the article down from 62 kilobites to 41, I tried my best to remove some of vague or sterotypical faux pas that would be the most misunderstood. I also was able to source around 80% of the article. I would appreciate any input on what more could be done to possibly sway you to reconsider your position. Thanks and I appreciate your time. Agne 06:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jacaranda

Hi there. Is there a reference for the Jacaranda being native to Australia? I was under the impression it was not native. A casual search of other sources seems to support this view, but I can't find anything authoritative either way. Is there a scientific controversy about whether it is native or not, I wonder, or just a general misunderstanding. And if it is native, is it the variety commonly planted that is native (or is that a South American exotic) while the true native is less popular. It would be great to have more information in this area. Thanks. Not a user yet, but my name is James.

As far as I know, all members of the genus are South American. Peter1968 04:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah. My apologies. For some reason I had thought you were responsible for the Revision as of 04:54, 27 October 2006 from 203.122.110.30, which adds "... of Gondwananan origin being found in Australia, South America and southern Africa ... each bearing the ancestors of today's various Jacaranda trees" implying that the Jacaranda is native to Australia. I can now see that this was not your revision. I still wonder if the revision is valid though. Thanks.

Thanks for the note; all the refs I've seen restrict the genus to South & Central America, so I'll delete the bad info (which is presumably based on a misunderstanding of naturalised plants). - MPF 14:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] System Shock userbox

Actually, I didn't make the userbox. I took code made by Grm wnr, and put it in a userbox.--Drat (Talk) 10:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1-Mahfuzl

Hey, nice to see another editor working at New Pages Patrol! Just a reminder, please do not just tag {{delete}}, but specify which criterion you are using to justify a speedy deletion. Thanks! - SpLoT _{(*T* C+u+g+v)} 11:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)