Talk:Peter Stastny

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[edit] Ethnic Origin

I'm rather startled you think the players' situations remotely comparable, Yankees76. Mikita emigrated as a boy and never played a lick of organized hockey in Slovakia. Stasny defected as an adult after playing years for Czechslovakia, both domestically and internationally, and played internationally for Canada during a period where he was a wanted criminal in his homeland for defecting. By contrast to Stasny serving as a Slovakian MEP, any assertion by Mikita of his embrace of Slovakian identity's been marked by any public evidence of it. RGTraynor 21:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

But that's not the debate. Mikita is the first European-born player to reach 1000 points. He was born Stanislaus Guoth in Sokolce, Slovakia. He's a member of the Slovakian Hockey Hall of Fame. The NHL Hockey Hall of Fame has him listed as Slovakia's all-time points leader. Both Stastny and Mikita reached 1000 points when they were Canadian citizens. I can't see how you can insert Stastny as the first European to get 1000 unless maybe you squeeze him in as the first European-trained player to reach that plateau.Yankees76 21:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

And just for fun, here's a pic of Stan standing with his Slovak Hall of Fame plaque http://www.slovakspectator.sk/vydania/2004048/photo/12.jpg. Public evidence ;) Yankees76 22:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, quick convo... I agree with RGTraynor on this one, Mikita was 8 and immigrated legally with his parents to Canada, while Statsny was 24 and his only country was Canada, although when Slovakia broke off of Czechoslovakia, he played for the Slovak Olympic team in 1994 and is their current GM. Mikita changed his name when he moved with his aunt and uncle and played for Canada in the 1972 Summit Series. Now it might be fair to say that Mikita is Slovak and Canadian, but Stastny is wholly Slovak. Croat Canuck 03:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Mikita didn'timmigrate with his parents - he was adopted by his aunt and uncle and took their name. So maybe - we've figured out flag goes on his Wikipedia HOF plaque. By the way, Mikita also has US citizenship. And lives there. He's about as Canadian as Lennox Lewis. In other words, he was born outside of Canada, was raised there from a young age, but not birth, represented Canada internationally and then moved out of Canada to reside in another country - where he has raised a family. RGTraynor is adding to this profile that Stastny was the first non-Canadian to score 1000 points. My problem with that is that he's creating a usesless stat - generally players are grouped with their place of birth - ie: American-born, European-born - when talking about hockey landmarks. It's like adding that Mike Modano was the first left-handed player from Michigan to record 10 points agains the Toronto Maple Leafs. It's pointless. Mikita is the first European born player to score 1000 points. Stastny is the second. It's pretty simple really. It's an interesting footnote that Mikita really didn't play hockey in Slovakia or for Slovakia - but that's about it. Yankees76 04:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)