Talk:Peter (name)
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In my opinion this page would be better restricted to those people and things which are sometimes known just as Peter - so the apostle Peter, Peter Rabbit, the Japanese actor if he is indeed notable and probably Peter the Great, in; Peter Jackson, Peter Green and Peter Parker, out. I don't think that trying to make a list of famous Peters is worthwhile; everyone will disagree on who deserves to be in - I note that the top Google Peter, Peter Gabriel, isn't currently in, and I doubt Peter Greenaway is in the top 100 Google Peters; and I'm not convinced it would be encyclopaedic even if agreed to be the 20 Most Famous Peters. We would be better with just disambiguation, plus history of the name itself. Opinions? TSP 03:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable. JimmyShelter 08:09, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. Name disambiguation pages such as this are for people commonly known solely by that name. People are often known solely by their family name. (George W. Bush is widely referred to as "Mr Bush" or just "Bush", for example, hence name disambiguation pages often contain long lists of people with a given family name. Other examples are Rasputin, Hitler, and Houdini.) People are less often known solely by their given name, and this is largely the case mainly for historical figures, not 20th century or modern ones. (Rare exceptions: Dannii, Britney.) Peter Jackson, Peter Green, Peter Parker, Peter Greenaway, Peter Gabriel, and Blue Peter are not commonly known as just "Peter". The apostle, the anti-popes, and the emperor are. Uncle G 12:08, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
- What everyone else said. Very sensible. --W(t) 12:10, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
[edit] A collection of Peters!
You should check out the the pete collective an online / offline gathering of people called Peter! They'd almost certainly have a valid opinion on this matter! The creator of the website and founder of the collective, Pete Trainor, is currently trying to rally as many Peters as he can to break the world record for gathering as many people as possible with the same first name into one place at one time. The record is currently held by 1500 "Mohammeds" from Dubai.
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- According to the Bible, there is no mention of any "Pope", or "papa" (the early Church was Jewish, and then Greek, not dominated by Romans or Italians for several hundred years. For hundreds of years, during the early years of Christianity, and after Constantine the pagan converted to Christianity, each capital city had its own local pope, or bishop, as a religious leader, and they were subject to the king or ruler of their province, not to any central religious figure in Rome. The Roman religious domination by the Pope didn't happen until much later.
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In other words, Peter could not have possibly been the first pope, and if there WAS one, it would have been James in Jerusalem, not somebody in Rome. In general, the leaders in Rome were involved in persecuting the early Christian Church, viciously and to the death (for not being pagans, and for refusing to acknowledge the "deity" of the Roman Emperor), for hundreds of years. Also, in Christianity, all of the believers are "saints" ("those who sanctify, or set apart, Christ in their hearts"); so, calling Simon "St. Peter" does not set him apart from the other rank-and-file Christian believers. (Oct.)
[edit] Pyotr
We have quite a few articles about varios Pyotrs. Any comments on wheter this is a correct usage?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Piotr is a traditional Polish transliteration, Pyotr is a traditional Russian one. Check Britannica usage, for instance. You may also want to search Google News for Piotr and Pyotr: the former query yields Polish results mostly, the latter finds article pertaining to Russian people. --Ghirla | talk 19:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Peta
I've also seen the name "Peta" as a girls name... it may qualify for "related" Elper 20:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
