Talk:Petah Tikva

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[edit] Romanized spelling

Going by the Hebrew, Petah Tikvah is not usually hyphenated, whereas Tel Aviv usually is in Hebrew. I see no reason to hyphenate it here. Danny

Apologies. I see that the municipal website does hyphenate it in Hebrew. It looks awful (to me), but I would have no problem reverting it if you want. Unfortunately, there is no standard convention. Danny

In the US system (BGN) it's "Petaẖ Tiqwa". In the UN system (GEGN) it's "Petaẖ Tiqva". Israel apparently doesn't have a system unless it's BGN. Google votes for "Petah Tikva". Google gives no clear answer about the hyphen, but as the Hebrew apparently doesn't use one (technically a maqaf), I wouldn't use a hyphen in English. Thank goodness this is a modern place name only, so we don't have to worry about medieval vocalization. Could we list under the Google name with the US and UN spellings as alternatives, and get rid of the rest? It looks like they're there only because of redirects. --Hoziron 03:31, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I put in a bunch of those alternatives, mostly because they were ones I found on the internet, or even used by official Petah Tikva organizations. Jayjg ^(talk) 16:00, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] biggest/largest industrial zone

In the entry for Holon we read "Holon has the second biggest industrial zone in Israel after Haifa" For Petah Tikva "Petah Tikva is known for being the city with the second largest industrial sector in Israel (after Haifa)"

Which one is it????

I don't have a source but I believe Petah Tikva's industrial sector is larger than Holon's. Holon's article may be referring to the physical size of the industrial zone (although I think there are a few bigger ones, like in Rishon and that independent industrial zone in the north). I am also rather curious, now that you bring it up. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 14:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Update of June 2006

(per User:Ynhockey's remarks on my User talk:D'n page) - Thanks for the timely review, and for catching the direct c&p's I left in. My intention had been to paraphrase and rework the section "marketing" the schools, but being human I forgot to do that at 6 am.

• Pop & Area Stats in intro: I think we should follow the lead of other Israeli Cities pages (Kfar Saba, Tel Aviv, etc) and include population & area stats in the intro, despite the fact that we have an Israel muni infobox while the others don't. I have referenced the CSA so as not to appear as a c&p ;)
• Other Stats: I can't find my way around the CSA site, to find demographic and economic data (mean annual income, rank in cost of living/ arnona). help!
• Sports: I think we need a section on this, covering the three soccer stadia, the professional soccer and basketball teams, etc. I unfortunately know next to nothing about this subject, and hope someone else does.
• Churches/mosques: I think I know the city pretty well, and I've never seen a church or mosque -- however, I have no other confirmation of my assertion that There are no churches or mosques within the city boundaries. -- could someone verify and/or correct this?
• pix: I think there is room for the City Hall photo that's in the hebrew version. What's the best way to include it -- copy into Commons and change both inclusions, or can the pic be included from where it is now? Also, it would be good to include Ohion's photo; I'm wondering if the pic on the official website is public domain -- will have to check with the Iriyya on that
• Founders: the official website has some photos of the Founders; due to their age, could they be considered public domain? One day Real Soon Now I'd like to do Wiki pages on Rav Yoel-Moshe Salomon, Rav Guttman, and Yehoshua Stampfer...
• Women: Since the Jan 2006, the City has been running a publicity campaign on Important PT Women. It would be great to get over to the Iriyya and get both this info and p.d. pix of these Ladies
• Helicopter Disaster: the memorial for the 1997 Israeli helicopter disaster is in Sirkin Base; is this relevant to mention?
• Golden Lines: Golden Lines is in Segula though they have a technical division in K. Matalon

--- Ð’n^talk 12:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

• Population - ok, but we should probably trim that. IMO, things like density and growth shouldn't go in the lead. Then again, any specific section we make for that will be too small.
• Other stats - I have also been unable to find many other facts on the CBS webstie. I don't think they publish all stats every year. However, please provide a link to the end of 2005 population stats - I have been unable to find those too.
• Sports - agreed, although I'm personally not interested in soccer or basketball, and don't know much about sports in Petah Tikva as a result.
• Churches/mosques - I don't know of a single church or mosque either, but if you're not sure about this information, it should be removed until it's confirmed.
• Pics - might want to move to Commons.
• Founders/mayor pic - no idea about copyright status. Try checking with the iriya if you can.
• Women - never heard of that. Any info you can provide will of course be appreciated.
• Helicopter disaster - maybe it's more relevant to Kfar Sirkin.
• Golden Lines - that may be rigth (and I may be wrong). However, I am sure they have part of an office building on HaSivim St.

-- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 12:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)