Talk:Pennsylvania Station (Newark)

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Is the $42 million consruction figure in current dollars or those of the time of construction? - Masspete

At the time of construction. The figure was for the station and related projects though - I've added info about that. --SPUI (talk) 06:39, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Newark (PATH station)

Shouldn't this article include all the information presently on the Newark (PATH station) article? Having two different articles on the same railroad station creates confusion. Someone wanting to look at all the connections he can make, should be able to go to one article to find them all. --Temlakos 18:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I would recommend not merging the articles. Even though the PATH platform is located in close proximity to the NJT/Amtrak platforms, PATH is still a separate rail service. Look at Hoboken Terminal and Hoboken (PATH station): same station but separate articles. Same with Pennsylvania Station (New York City), and World Trade Center (PATH station). Wl219 21:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Unlike the Hoboken PATH station (not sure why you mentioned Penn/WTC, since they're extremely different; Penn/33rd are much closer but still distinct), at Newark, the PATH platforms are very much a part of the station. At Hoboken, the PATH station is entirely below the NJT rail terminal; the only connections are the stairs, and it's entirely possible to enter and exit the PATH station without setting foot in the rail terminal. At Newark, however, PATH's station is not at all distinct from the Amtrak/NJT station. The normal track for PATH arrivals (track H) is above the other Penn Station tracks, but you can't get to the street without going through Penn. The departure track (platforms B/C) is even more connected—only the turnstiles/fence seperate the PATH side from the Amtrak/NJT side. The physical platform is shared between both. —LrdChaos 20:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

By the same token, one could argue that NJT and Amtrak at Newark ought be in different articles. After all, wouldn't PATH share tracks with them if it weren't for them being incompatible? To say they should be separate articles because they are two different services does not make sense. They are housed in the same building. The 33rd street station is some distance apart from NY Penn; the WTC is a complex of buildings, not a single building. One building, one article. Nu? REwhite 23:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I support a merger. The PATH station is an integral part of Newark Penn. --CComMack 09:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Support merge. The station serves several rail services, but it is one station. There is no separate PATH station. Bob schwartz 01:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Oppose. While it's fine to include more mention about PATH service in Pennsylvania Station (Newark), a separate article should exist for just the PATH station for matter of consistency. I tried combining the two [1], and it breaks the consistent style used for all PATH station articles by having the infobox toward the bottom. -Aude (talk contribs) 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I think we're talking past each other. I refer you to this image currently included in the Newark Penn article. The tracks and platforms for PATH are parallel (and in the case of one platform, shared) with the tracks and platforms of the NJT/Amtrak (ex-PRR) station. It is almost meaningless to speak of "just the PATH station" as an entity. Yes, merging the articles results in inconsistencies in layout with the other PATH stations, but it's not the end of the world. --CComMack 10:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Support It's one building. The trackage is separate/semi-separate because the power transmission to the trains is different (caternaries vs. 3rd rail). It's still one building. Heck! There're even cross-platform transfers! REwhite 23:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)