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[edit] Sunday Bloody Sunday (song)

This article presents information about U2's 1983 protest song and single. It achieved good article status in June. Since then quite a bit has changed (diff), and I think it's time to test the waters here to see what needs to be done next. Some questions I have for general editors who might not be self-proclaimed U2 experts (as most of the editors of the article to this point have been):

• The lead section. I've read over Wikipedia's advice on what an appropriate one looks like, and done my best to adapt the intro, but it still needs some work.
• Images. Are enough used? Are they appropriate? Do they all qualify as fair use?
• References. There are quite a few, but I'm certain more are needed. Where?
• General layout and prose. I've compared the layout to other featured articles on individual singles, and I think they're fairly close. Is the information interesting and compelling? What still needs to be addressed? What parts of the article shouldn't be there?

Basically, I think it's pretty good, but it's been combed only by a group of U2 fans. I'm looking for the opinions of outside Wikipedians, I suppose. Thanks! McMillin24 _contribs^talk 20:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

In the lead, I find two substantiation (sp?) problems. "The song's musical style can be considered militaristic..." begs the question, considered by whom? If the answer is critics and/or fans, that needs to be cited. On the other hand, if the answer is the article writer, we should not ask readers to accept our artistic interpretations, so a rephrasing would be in order. Likewise "It is considered by some to be the ultimate protest song by U2 and has become one of the band's signature songs." Who are these "some", and can their considerations be referenced to reliable sources? Other issues: please convert the "Cultural references" section into prose, per the embedded list guideline. And finally, consider a transwiki of the Bono block quote to Wikiquote. You have done good work here! -Fsotrain⁰⁹ 00:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response and hints! I've worked on rewording and adding citations to the two parts of the lead section you mentioned, trying to avoid weasel words like "some" altogether. The cultural reference section has been rewritten (vaguely drawing from the FA Buffy the Vampire Slayer), but I haven't addressed the long block quote yet. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 03:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Ruhrfisch 03:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)