Talk:Paula Zahn

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Lionden would seem to be an employee of CNN: there is no history whatsoever for him/her. I suspect he/she is Paula Zahn's flack. Reverting true stuff gets celebs into trouble. Clearly, Lionden now wants Paula Zahn to have pseudo-blood thrown on her as she exits her pricey building by PETA. Her flack wants the building to become notorious. Maybe even, she wants her children to be victimized by paparizzi, and therefore get expelled from their pricey private school[s].

I'm not gonna revert. I'm gonna make the damnation of her husband far more intense a bit later. This is Pale Male territory. Paula is a rich bitch who cares little for New York City wildlife.

May Pale Male poop on all of you CNN flacks.

Lionden must be particularly proud of the fact that there is now an article, Richard Cohen, husband of Paula Zahn. Pale Male has pooped on Paula Zahn. To stop the mess, Richard and Paula, with their kids, have to do a hardcore pro Pale Male video bit, even if they are evicted from their building.--FourthAve 06:32, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Reply to above:

Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines key policy #2 states "Avoid bias. Articles should be written from a neutral point of view, representing differing views on a subject factually and objectively"

FourthAve comes from a highly biased view (the "comments" above make that quite clear), probably one of the people last year who were outraged and disgusted at the removal of Pale Male's nest from the building on 5th Ave. Therefore the inclusion of that controversy as a part of Paula Zahn's Wiki article (which FourthAve initiated) comes from a biased point of view and not a neutral point of view.

A neutral point of view (or NPOV as its own article states, which btw is also described as "absolute and non-negotiable") for an encyclopedia must look at a subject from a big-picture perspective. Unless Zahn's article is to become a litany of controversies she's been involved with, adding one particular controversy for which she had no responsibility (all legitimate press accounts at the time state it was Cohen's decision alone), is inconsistent with a NPOV. Unless it proves to be a significant minority view that it should be mentioned, it simply doesn't fit in. And thus far this add-Pale-Male-to-Zahn's-article crusade appears to be FourthAve's alone. If FourthAve feels so strongly about Pale Male he should express these opinions in an opinion-based blog or website, which there are plenty of, and not in an online collaborative encyclopedia which is about facts and information.

I should thank SysOp Johnleemk for his attempt at finding a compromise regarding this dispute, but I do feel the inclusion of this one particular controversy is out of place in this article, so I respectfully disagreed with that edit. But again if it proves to be a significant minority view I'm open for a reasonable compromise.

Also, it should be noted Pale Male has a Wiki article which does mention Paula Zahn among the building residents, so the information is indeed given within the Wikipedia. It just doesn't fit into a big-picture article on Paula Zahn herself.

And for the record, I do not work for CNN. I'm just a CNN viewer who gets sick and tired of people who become so impassioned about a particle issue or cause that they lose all perspective and reason, not to mention civility.

-Lionden

Furthermore, the text FourthAve continues to want to add:

"In 2004, Cohen evicted the squatter hawk Pale Male from his extremely expensive 927 Fifth Avenue (at East 74th Street) co-op's quarters and made headlines. He later settled out of court, and Pale Male resumed residence."

is clearly not about Zahn. It's about Cohen, so why should it be in Zahn's article? Because FourthAve knows Zahn's article is more likely to be read than one on Cohen, or even Pale Male himself. And since FourthAve's objective in editing Zahn's article isn't to inform about Zahn, but to inform about Cohen and Pale Male, he uses guilt by association to imply relevancy in an article on Zahn. This is an inappropriate use of an article that's supposed to be written with a NPOV, which FourthAve plainly does not have regarding the subject of this article.

-Lionden

1 Richard Cohen, husband of Paula Zahn redirects here
2 Mary Tyler Moore bitch slaps Paula Zahn
3 Red Lionden
4 Good Morning America? or The Early Show?

[edit] Richard Cohen, husband of Paula Zahn redirects here

Its AFD failed to get consensus to delete, and I made the editorial decision to redirect the article here. I've also merged some material from the article here. Johnleemk | Talk 09:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mary Tyler Moore bitch slaps Paula Zahn

Actually, MTM did not, but they do live in the same building, and Paula's hubby was politically incorrect, and did get politically bitch-slapped by Mary Tyler Moore. He's made their building notorious, and all forward-thinking NYC coops now include a morals clause.

[edit] Red Lionden

Lionden threatens to report me. But this CNN flack/Paula Zahn employee has no history, whereas I have edited more than 2000 articles. Lionden is an a-hole, and makes Paula Zahn one too: and so are her children.

Clearly, Lionden has been instructed that Zahn's children shall be subjected to public humiliation. She and Redlion want her kids to be called whores.

I don't know what you're trying to prove with these completely irrational posts where you do nothing but hurl personal attacks and outrageous lines like "She and Redlion want her kids to be called whores." How is that even remotely rational? And why is it you feel the need to attack her kids? How are they guilty of anything?

I suggest you read what you've written, pretend it's someone else who wrote it, and ask yourself if it doesn't look a lot like it's that person who's the A-hole in this "discussion". Do you really think you're doing yourself or your "cause" any favors with this? And about your 2000+ article involvement, do you really think the pattern you've established with this article speaks well for the rest of whatever it is you do in Wikipedia? Just from what you've posted here I get the impression of a highly immature and insolent character. Is that really who you are? If not, then try showing it for a change. Snap out of it, or grow the hell up. Do it for yourself and your own good name if nothing else. Unless you're trying to besmirch your own reputation here and detract from your extensive record of Wiki involvement. Is that really what you want to do?

-Lionden (note the absence of "Red" in the name, though I do admit I like how it sounds and wish I had thought of it. :-P )