User talk:Patstuart

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On wikibreak! It appears that online conflicts are getting to me a little bit too much at the moment, and I should probably stay away for a bit. Any brief return to editing should be duly ignored. :) Patstuarttalk


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[edit] Hi, Pat

Hi, Pat,

I did work on Jade Esteban Estrada at my university and know a great deal about his work. I was done with further contributions. If you feel any of it in inappropriate, let me know. However all of it is accurate and researched.

Happy Holidays and thanks for writing. You job is a vast one. :) Gret —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.174.181.96 (talk) 05:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Ah, thanks for the info. Yes, that helps. You can understand our trepidation, I guess. It's not a problem to add the information to a few artices. It probably wasn't appropriate in Naomi (Bible), because of undue weight given to a character in one movie (that's just my haughty opinion; others might disagree if you bring it up on the talk page). I'm not sure about the other pages; perhaps you want to make a mention on those talk pages too. Thanks for getting back. Patstuarttalk|edits 13:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page

Deleted and moved. Take care -- Samir धर्म 08:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome

Thanks for your Welcome. I'm a registered user; my User page is User:Hoshie. Thanks again. I do minor stuff anonymously. For the big stuff, I log-in. 24.25.42.125 21:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Revised vandalism warning system

Hi Patstuart, as a vandal-fighter I thought you might be interested in seeing this discussion. Regards, Accurizer 22:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Per my talk

I'm sorry you felt that way and I hope you change your opinion in the future. While a lot of my edits have involved support of Israel of course in conflict related articles, I feel that I also contributed in many non conflict articles about Israel and other issues like footballers and it's not just "one purpose" which sounds offensive to me. Anyway, I hope you'll feel better of me at some point or another. Cheers, Amoruso 11:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for your response. You are completely correct; I pushed too hard in this situation, and I should have, at least, said something to your talk page first. I am sorry, I was too quick to judge; I can only ask your forgiveness for this offense. I hope you can continue to be a good editor for Wikipedia. Patstuarttalk|edits 18:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for this, you had a right to say what you thought but if I decide to stay with wikipedia I will try to work to change negative impressions in the future. Amoruso 10:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request comments

Hi, Pat. Please check out the recent changes made by new user Pmgomez to the Xavier School article if you can. There's a lot of non-NPOV content and boosterism. Thanks in advance. Rmcsamson 16:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I gtg, so I'm not sure if I can help, but if I come back: do you have any specific examples? There's a large section of text being changed all at once. BTW, if he reverts again, report to WP:AN/3RR, as he's been warned. -Patstuarttalk|edits 16:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Reversions for Xavier School article

Hi, Pat.

Thank you for your message. Please note that I did the third revert today then Rmcsamson reverted the third revert -- thus, violating the three-revert rule. Since this was the case, I deem that it was necessary to still maintain the integrity of the article as it reflects on the institution I belong to. As provided in the reversion note, I ask for a detailed explanation of the changes made on the article's talk page.

If you may note, I've generally revamped the whole article such that it may be at par with those of other institutions -- and what Wikipedia articles should look like based on the provided guidelines. I understand that Rmcsamson has been keeping watch of this and other pages but little has he done to improve its quality. Loss of valid and authentic updates happened due to his clumsy reversions and edits. This is of course forgivable as we all commit errors.

And yes, I don't believe in edit wars. As mentioned above, I only seek to maintain its quality.

Cheers and thanks.

Best,

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pmgomez (talk • contribs) 16:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for getting back. Here's the thing: in a content dispute, one side always thinks they're protecting the value of the encyclopedia. But violating 3RR is not acceptable except in clear cut cases, and this is most certainly not clear cut. If you have any issues with the page, I suggest taking it to the talk page. It takes longer than just adding it, but using brute force accomplishes little, and only gets people upset and blocked. Talking out an issue, and stating reasoning usually can bring out why one side doesn't like a specific addition or removal. -Patstuarttalk|edits 16:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks too. I've clearly asked that Rmcsamson provide a detailed explanation on the reversions -- to no avail. As previously mentioned, it was Rmcsamson who first violated the 3RR. Rest assured, I will strictly follow 3RR. Pmgomez 16:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
you're right, he did, and that's a real shame. If he does it again, please report to WP:AN/3RR. And talk page discussions can't just be a quick, two-word-and-it's-over-thing - you have to persevere at them (trust me on this one), as well as have an accomodating attitude. -Patstuarttalk|edits 16:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Update: Rmcsamson and I are currently collaborating on bringing the best out of this article. Our efforts shall be documented in the article's talk page. Thanks! Pmgomez 17:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Glad to hear it! I had a gut feeling this might be an instance where one side had something valuable to add to the article, but everyone was talking over each other (I've seen that happen a lot). -Patstuarttalk|edits 17:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] face333

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Kaisershatner 19:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

As a non-admin, I can't. -Patstuarttalk|edits 19:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
LOL, sorry I'm an idiot. I did block that acct indefinitely, for just that reason. That's what the edit above would show if you could see it. Cheers, Kaisershatner 19:20, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested to Review

There is nothing wrong with others. It's all wrong with Indian Wikipedia Administrators who have been given rights to modify contents for well purpose of wikipedia. But so sad that though a lot of evidence appears about ankit fadia on internet as well as on this same wikipedia page, you peoples are doing arguements to find reasons. I saw various edits from all you three admins and sent a mail to HO Wikipedia with the contents that you reported to be wrong. You want to know who is using this IP? They are all the members of all kalpesh sharma group sharing single IP. Do what you can, do this protest will not stop ? Because peoples of country are being saved. nothing is being done wrong by saying the fact and truth about ankit fadia. You are all three discussing and finding about various reasons to anyway edit ankit fadia contents to what it was and don't want peoples to see the right thing. This is a challenge that if you find any content edited in ankit fadia wiki which is wrong, then come out and debate ?

Wikipedia is a reputed name for reputed peoples. Not for Ankit Fadia. If one or two or three articles were wrongly edited, we all might have not edited so many pages. but you are trying to specify that all the content edited about ankit fadia is wrong. Only you peoples are right ? All others are wrong is that what you mean. Then accept our challenge.

one more thing utcarsch, if you think what you mentioned above is right then you are wrong. Mr. Kalpesh always goes with evidence and proofs and that too right in front of eyes instead of barking on wikipedia like ankit fadia's article. As concerns to reputation how can you claim that this editing on wikipedia is because of media publicity. The pages on wikipedia have been edited by our group only from last 15 20 days, whereas ankit fadia's reputation is on net in the first thirty searches of google. First clear your concept and then speak. Go and view the logs of all the pages and urls that are posted in the article written on gather.com by kalpesh sharma itself. —the preceding comment is by 59.95.201.18 (talk • contribs) : Please sign your posts!.

I'm afraid you've made a terrible mistake; I've never edited or even seen this page in my life. However, from your statement, I can't even figure out what your specific complaint is. -Patstuarttalk|edits 14:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kalpesh Sharma

Please see this link where I found your message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Talk:Kalpesh_Sharma

Please tell me what to do on deletion review page. I have not used wikipedia so much and do not have so much idea. So, due to this many administrators are gtting trouble and even I am getting trouble from many of them. I am an Information Security Expert and if some one says that hack a website, I can hack 100's at a time. Bt no idea of how this wikipedia policies works. So, I request you to kindly help me to create the above page. I have all references ready which are from reliable sources

[edit] Your posts on AN/I

Considering your pages say youre on Wikibreak, you are making a rather a lot of edits on AN/I. Also since you are not an administrator, why do you feel compelled to offer your opinion on whether editors should be blocked or not in each and every case?--Light current 16:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in, but this question is slightly rude, in my opinion. Any editors who have something relevant to add to a discussion at AN/I are welcome to do so. The page specifically says "any user may post here". Ned Wilbury 17:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
For my own part, I suppose that only those editors who are well versed in our policies are welcome on WP:ANI. This edit reveals ignorance of our fundamental policies, such as WP:VANDAL. --Ghirla -трёп- 17:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
To Light current: I'm sorry to see that I've made your list of grudges on this encyclopedia. However, as I can tell, it's getting pretty long at the moment; I'm not sure I could count on one hand or even two the amount of administrators and users whom you seem to have it out for. Instead of holding grudges every time you get blocked for incivility, maybe you could learn to live and let live.
To Ghirlandajo, I have as much right as you do to comment on AN/I. And for that matter, other people agreed with me on this specific issue. If you disagree with my point, please explain why, as I clearly thought the administrator was out of bounds.
Otherwise, guys, I have to be blunt, I have every right to comment on the noticeboards, and it isn't any of your business to tell me I don't; so please don't. If you have any constructive criticism, go for it. -Patstuarttalk|edits 00:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Did I say I had a grudge? I was just wondering how you felt confident and knowledgeable enough to comment on each and every incident on WP:AN/I 8-)--Light current 01:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
(Patstuart, please pardon me responding to someone else on your talk page. I don't mean to presume anything. Feel free to move/remove this as you see fit.) Light current, I got the impression from Patstuart's post above that he was ok with constructive criticism but felt your original question was a bit out of line, here. Maybe you got a different impression. A reading of the words you used indicates a certain aggressiveness, to me, and Patstuart did not appear to appreciate it. So, upon reading his response, instead of thinking to yourself "Ooops! My comments might not have been wise" and dropping the matter, you responded the way you did? Your clarification has a completely different tone than your first message and you seem to be denying that your first message said what it said. What you're done here is a little bit like coming into someone's house and saying "Hey, you, stop being a jerk!" Then, the homeowner says "What? When was I a jerk to you?" and you reply "Whatever do you mean? I never SAID you were a jerk." Words have implied meaning, as well as literal meaning. I think you're not being very civil to Patstuart here, and I think it would be best if you just let this issue drop. Ned Wilbury 01:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{China-bio-stub}}

Please see my comment on Template talk:China-bio-stub. I appreciate your work. --Nlu (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NP

No problem bro, i don't even remember what you wrote. I am so accustomed to criticisms that i have stopped remembering single outburst and only remember more elonged conflicts. Although, I do try to do the best out of each situation. I'm just glad that the US army user left his message, a messaged that did not put me on the defensive.

So again, no worries and no problems, just give me another civil and inviting message if i turn insensitive and hopefully ill consider it appropriately :)

I appreciate your message, really. Peace! --Striver 00:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] King Edward Hotel (Jackson, MS, USA)

King Edward Hotel (Jackson, MS, USA) actually survived prod a couple of weeks ago, so I moved it to AfD. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King Edward Hotel (Jackson, MS, USA). NickelShoe (Talk) 01:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment....

First of all I have a right just as you to freedom of expression. Yes I probably shouldn't have put it in all caps or bold. What was said was facts, you may not think it is facts because it is against your religion.

[edit] Google Hits

I thought you should know Montada means Forum in English. I did a google search for Forum and received a total of 1,360,000,000 hits. Food for thought. Alan.ca 10:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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