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Outstanding edit, Isis. Thank you!

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[edit] Virginia Resolves

Someone might want to add a bit more detail about the debate before the Stamp Act resolutions were passed. Although the exact wording of Henry's speech is unknown, and the traditional wording is apocryphal, he definitely made some comparison of George III to Julius Caesar and Charles I.

The way I heard it it referred both to Tarquin and Caesar: "Each had his Brutus", I think.... As to the "apocryphal" part, people just used to talk like that.

[edit] Liberty Or Death Speech

Henry's famous "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!" speech was delivered to the Second Virginia Convention, not to the House of Burgesses. The convention had many of the same members as the legislative body, but the legislature was barred from sitting by decree of Lord Dunmore, the Royal Governor. For this reason, as well as the potentially treasonous nature of the debate, the convention met at St. John's Church in Richmond, as opposed to the colonial capital, Williamsburg.

This is probably a pointless comment, but I think it is quite amusing to see how a prominent figure can be confused with a French criminal of the same name. Ethereal 03:50, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parson's Cause

I am not sure of all the facts surrounding the Parson's Cause court case, but I believe that Patrick Henry technically lost the case, however his clients were ordered to pay damages of only 1 pound, so it was a de facto victory.

he won it ! it was about a tax on tabacco and that money going to the parsons!

Not according to Parson's Cause, which states that Henry technically lost the case, but won a moral (and practical) victory. I don't know which is true- someone with more knowledge than me might want to clear up the discrepency, otherwise I shall try and find some sources on the web and reword it myself. Cheers, Badgerpatrol 05:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

He did indeed lose.Badgerpatrol 16:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Quotes

Did Henry actually say "Suspicion is a Virtue if it is in the interests of the good of the people."? He was an Antifederalist, wary of governmental powers and a proponent of liberty. Can anyone provide a traditional citation for this quote? (Google 1, 2) rgm 20:01, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Was he a proponent of liberty for slaves? Americans worship some false gods in connection with their Revolution. Bhoeble 20:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yazoo Lands Scandal

Re the paragraph: "In the later years of his life, Henry was a key figure in a major land speculation scandal involving the Yazoo lands in what was then the western territory of Georgia."

Does anyone know what was the outcome of the scandal? It should be stated if he was found innocent or guilty or what was the preponderance of opinion at that time or today. Otherwise, the paragraph just seems a smear on the man's reputation. Neven Karlovac 16:34, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] unclear

I don't understand this sentace in the biography section "Henry won the case but damages were set at such a nominally low level that the result was a victory for the independence movement, to the consternation of the British government." Is this a typo? I'm assuming that Henry was the lawyer on the side of the independance movement. So why does it say BUT? I don't know the situation enough to rewrite this properly so it makes sense.

Someone with a poor grasp of literacy altered the original wording in a haphazard way. The sentence has now been restored, along with a reference to the fact that Henry actually (technically) lost the case. Badgerpatrol 23:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Also the last paragraph is very bad. How does he change from federalist to anti federalist? And what was he elected to that he died before he could take his seat?

[edit] Places named for Patrick Henry

I Googled on "named for Patrick Henry" to find several additional counties, then verified them. There may be more places out there; someone with more patience might want to search for articles that link to this one. --Thatnewguy 18:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing References

I think some of the material in this article is base on the sources in the references section. Could someone make (effectively) footnotes to those from the contents? Thank you Lee S. Svoboda tɑk 15:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)