Talk:Parishes of Barbados

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[edit] naming

googling, e.g. ("Christ Church Parish"+barbados) brought lot of evidence for uppercase so I will change it. This will bring it inline with most other subnational entities.

see: Parishes of Dominica, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Subnational entities

Tobias Conradi 22:40, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

while uppercasing it, I found conflicts with parishes of Dominica and parishes of Jamaica. If that is not a good benefit from standardization, what else could it be ;-) Tobias Conradi 03:18, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I suggest streamlining Barbados parish article names

I propose the streamlining of the Barbados names for calification, the reason is to be inline with the actual local naming which is just "parish name. Barbados" (e.g. Christ Church is just "Christ Church, Barbados" or Saint Michael is just "Saint Michael, Barbados". As I think there's a mixup. I've seen in the United States they seem to throw "Parish" on the end e.g. (In New Orleans there's "St. Bernard Parish") but in the Caribbean, it seems to just be "Parish Of" in long name form. And just (the name), (country name) in short form. Current naming is on par with saying in the United States "Florida state, United states" or "North Dakota state, United States" or "Texas state, United States". In Barbados the trailing "Parish" is not needed. In this case the word "state" is not really needed as in the case here of the word "parish". If Parush should remain it might be better to follow the naming convention e.g.(parish name), Barbados+(parish) ) e.g. Chrish Church's artcle title would be "Christ Church, Barbados (parish)", or "Saint Andrew, Barbados (parish)" etc. Again Parish isn't needed but it would clarify that a trailing word "parish" is not actually a part of the name. Examples see actual mailing addresses of the various departments of the Barbados Government. As can be seen "Parish" isn't a part of the name. [1] CaribDigita 06:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Since 1) Parishes are a very common feature in the Caribbean, and 2) They are almost completely irrelevant, the standard was made that all would be in the format of "X Parish, Country". The guideline is at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (subnational entities), it says proposed but it's been static and in use for many months now. (the version in use is B). It states: "For the parishes of the various island nations of the Atlantic and Caribbean: These nations mostly have a common heritage and share so many similar names (There are several Saint Georges, for example) that a standard naming and disambiguation style should be used. This decision is unlikely to be offense to anyone, since these divisions are mostly irrelevant; in some cases, not even the census takers care about them anymore." I'm not saying it can't change, I'm just explaining why it was drafted the way it was. --Golbez 08:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see, I realise I mis-spoke and thankx for the correction. I should have said the word "parish" falls in the middle. Also, you definantly are correct about the local of usage for the last ~ 40 years or so of the Parishes to any significant level. That's about how long the British tradition of having Local Government Councils at the Parish-level have been abolished in Barbados. However there's a couple things in the pipeline which I suspect would benefit from the paying attention of the Parish namespace once again. 1) Barbados is rolling out Postal Codes [2] at the neghbourhood level with numbers that are based at the parish level. 2) Car license plates codes are also based on parish. and 3) since Barbados has been liberalised for Telecommunications I suspect that the telephone system will follow some sort of syntax for the handing out of Central office codes. CaribDigita 16:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you think it's something that needs to be changed, or can we live with it for now? I think the benefits of standardization in this one case (I'm usually against it in these cases) of Caribbean/Atlantic (can't forget Bermuda) parishes probably make sense. --Golbez 17:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)