Talk:Parícutin

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[edit] Elevation

The Elevation in the box and inside the article do not agree. Hu 17:06, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stress mark in name?

In the article title, the stress mark is over the second i: Paricutín. But in the body of the article, the first i has the stree mark, and the second has none: Parícutin. Can anyone clarify which is correct? Cactus Wren 05:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The name, which was the name of a village before the volcano was born, is doubtless from the Tarascan (Purhépecha) language. I do not know how it is pronounced in that language. But in Spanish it is regularly written and pronounced with stress on the final syllable, hence Paricutín. See e.g. the Spanish Wikipedia article on the volcano. The name of the volcano as it was made known to the world came through Spanish, and it makes sense to preserve the Spanish orthography and pronunciation, as do all the other-language links at the bottom of the article. Cf. the fact that the volcano is in the state of Michoacán: even though that name was originally from Nahuatl and pronounced with the accent on the penultimate syllable (Michoácan), the spelling and pronunciation Michoacán is now standard in Spanish and therefore correct for English use.

I am in fact changing this back throughout the article.

One additional point: in citing articles or books, we should respect the way the article or book had it written. The first cited article consistently writes the name with no accent mark, so I am changing its title as cited here to match that way of writing it. The second I have left as was, since I haven't seen the book in question.

--Lavintzin 23:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Hold on, now. I am working with the Luhr and Simkin book, the definitive title onthe subject. They use the accent on the second syllable. I note that their photocopies of Mexican sources have it both ways. THere appears to be some confusion even in Mexico, but I would trust the editors of the standard tome to have it right...And I just spent a bunch of time today fixing links and such for consistency--Natcase 12:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC) PS: I have an email out to Luhr, who may be able to provide clarification.--Natcase 13:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, this from Jim Luhr at the Smithsonian:

Nat,

Indeed there has been much confusion on this subject. The volcano, of course, was named after the nearby Tarascan town of Parícutin, which was buried in ash and abandoned early in the eruption. I was guided to place the accent on the first "i" by consulting earlier authoritative publications. In 1945, the Mexican National University published the first scholarly volume about the eruption titled EL PARICUTIN, in which they accented the first "i". Likewise, the classic 4-part USGS Bulletin 965A-D on the eruption, including Foshag and Gonzalez-Reyna (1954: Birth and Development of Parícutin Volcano, Mexico) used that spelling, as did Dr. Atl in his 1950 book Como Nace y Crece un Volcán, El Parícutin.

So, I'm going to go back to Parícutin--Natcase 00:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, good enough, I guess. But it should be mentioned in the main article as well. I'll put something in, perhaps.--Lavintzin 16:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New User

Some new user put this in. It clearly doesn't fit the page, and I don't really understand what they're trying to say, so I'll cpoy it here and let y'all hack it out "inconsistency's

started erupting in feb 2000, and stopped in 1957. Someone with more expertise might want to fix this. I am new to wikipedia so sorry I don't know right way to report this." Motor.on 01:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

No, it started in 1943, ended for good in 1952. Who knows what the user was trying to say. Thanks for policing....--Natcase 03:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)