Talk:Panarchy

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I tried. :) Hope this helps.--Cuomo111 01:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

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This page clarifies very little. It would be nice to see it reworked.

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I posted the following on the main page because I wanted to make sure that the average person who might visit it wouldn't get the impression that this topic is some sort of static, canonical concept. I suspect the discussion of these questions is likely to go on here though.

"This article seems to be almost entirely and solely taken from it's parent website, whose link is below. Some information, description or criticism that goes beyond e-advertising would be of significant help and contribution. For instance, what is the difference between "Panarchy" and "Heterarchy", observing the significantly and poignantly different prefixes? It could be argued that there seems to be an almost metaphysical bent to the descriptions of Panarchy here. Furthermore, what would the proponents of this page argue is the difference between "Panarchy" and "Holarchy", other than the thematic or disciplinary scale?"

For my part, I see significant similarities in the organizational concepts of "Panarchy", "Holarchy", and "Heterarchy", with the significant difference seeming to be that both panarchies and holarchies rely on ever-increasing scales as their main organizational drive, while heterarchy seems more finite (for better or worse). In the case of Panarchy, could it be applied to systems other than Human governance? Both Holarchy and Heterarchy have natural or even physical corrolaries that don't require conscious constituents to contribute to the organizational system. That last question is less of a criticism than it is a somewhat semantic point of clarification.

[edit] Panarchist Sabotage?

What is with the panarchists constantly redirecting this page over to "panarchism." Clearly they are not even the same topic.

[edit] Improving the Disambiguation

I tried breaking up the page into separate panarchy pages but got slammed by the admins.

[edit] Reasons to leave both concepts in the same article

1 - It avoids causing linking problems. Links to panarchy of either type from other articles will go straight to appropiate info.

2 - The article isn't really long enough to split.

3 - Naming the two variants seems very problematic. exolon 12:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)