User talk:Pablohoney77

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[edit] Type infobox

Hi Pablohoney, I see you have been restoring/implimenting the font inforbox over use of captions. I am happy to have the infobox implimented if we can get rid of the cream color at top and the redundant name. Otherwise I favor captions. At present they present areal visual stutter/cacophony. I am tryig to make the type pages graphical quieter so that the TYPE can come to the fore. At present return of the infobox in its present form seems like a leap backwards. Though arguments can be made for more accessible info, all links can be placed in a caption. I've clocked well over 40 hours in researching, referencing and making specimens that appear more like an ecyclopedia of type. I confess I am disappointed to see the visually jangling info box returned. As a graphic designer, and professor of typography I don't believe most information must be placed in table form. The Yale professor of design Edward Tufte says, and I agree, that tables can become "data prisons", locking stuff up in a conservative structure without really making it accessible/readable. I assume you think it better, wonder if we can find a compromise that benefits this very visual subject. Jim CApitol3 13:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi pablohoney. This is going in the right direction. An earlier direction, by me, then by Atanamir, shown here: User:Atanamir/TypeBox is similar.

Yes, of course, we can use the term information design, some prefer information architecture, but when the eye becomes more taken with horizontal and vertical lines than it does with content, the form overtakes content and absorption of the information is made difficult. Visual fatigue, from overwhelming layouts, to many things without clear hierarchy, can all slow things down.

So, thank you, very much, for addressing this. Here is my wish list:

  • 1) can we place the text box to set nbelow the specimen but without making a box around the specimen?This would be ideal, in that the right side of the page would be smoother, quieter, and no discord between the specimen size, and the image immediately below, as now exists on the Bell Centennial article
  • 2) If not, can the spacing between the specimen illustration and the rules (lines) be made at least half as big as they presently are? A visit to the Bell Centennial page shows what I mean, it would be great if the info box spacing were like what wiki does around an illustration
  • 3) Text: could date created be made Design date; and then add a separate Release date (keeping second words of entries lowercase) for faces with both.

Thanks again. CApitol3 18:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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