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[edit] Otpor and Christianity (just a theory)
Of course there are the low-level concepts that can motivate us (youth) to stand on a side of 'Otpor' organisation, such as: supporting western hegemony (yes, the same ones who killed Christ less than two millenia earlier), protesting against what's actualy your nation's democracy, protesting against "communism" (and systems descending from it) not realising that in fact western states themselves imported communism in those Christian states in the first place (e.g. Lenin financed by German/Swiss banks to make anarchy in westernmadewar tortured Russia so Germany could occupy a part of it in that chaos (as happened), or Tito a Roman-catholic who fought on side of Austria in WW1, achieved higher ranks there, and after defeat of Austria joined commies when they were supporting separatism, dissapearing afterwards into western-imported-communism comunist Russia "miraculously" returning glorious (supported to win in WW2 by Britain (a monarchy???!)) - returning glorious to his homeland (although from the way he speaks you can so obviously see that Serbo-Croatian language is not his mother tongoue) - and then ever-so-bad communism (although he was strangely in contact with the Roman Catholic Pope - ???) - and then after all done by Roman-catholic "comunists" who infiltrated into Christian nations and were destroying its resistance to Roman-catholic hegemony from the inside (mainly (as a first order of bussiness) destroying christian churces in Russia and usurping Kosovo as the center of Christianity for south Slavs) finaly after 50 years of influence or so (pressured by effects of bloody war pro-Roman-catholic nations NEEDED for "independence" mind you; and pressured by the ever so bad economical situation in the country because (guess who? - ) Roman catholic domain blackmailed Serbia by cutting it off from the economic system so it would weaken and submit itself to Roman-catholic rule), - so - finaly - then people (esspecialy young) in Serbia would overthrow the communist-descendeng system ever-so-bad (and initialy, mind you, superimposed (using brutal force) to Serbs by Roman-catholic individuals during and after the WW2 (yet... somehow... Serbs are 'the bad guys' - ???)), and then young people of Serbia would "win" (somehow??) by (actualy) finaly completing the job (started by communists) - by submitting entirely to Roman-catholic hegemonial states (stubbornly called 'democratic' although in fact obviously hegemonial (expansionism of the EU is nothing less than 'hegemony' (the antonym of 'democracy')) - isn't it even a bit strange...)), also a personal motivation for youth to join 'Otpor' can be a personal need for adventure and adrenaline, exhibiting raving schizophrenia and other forms of psychological illnessess and disorders (real fun), also shaging a schizophrenic female colegues from your campus, senseless orgy, impulsive behaveour, being agressive for no actual reason (just hating your life), blaming everything on society insted of realising you're just a dumb idiot who let your 'firends' lead you where they want without you yourself considering what's good for you instead, drug-dealing "friends" giving you "good" advices; also wanting (or doing so not realising) to make a mess of your personal life (just look at these so obviously schizophrenic quasi-intelectual marijuana suckers on the picture recieving this MTV award), also passing-out on the floor every night attending every single rasonless "party" with your "friends" - not planing anything for your freaking life of which nothing useful is left but to comit suicide, not careing for anything in own life, just sex, pornography, more sex, getting AIDS, drugs, anarchy, vomiting, having vulgar fun laughing like a brainless moron with your friends high on marijuana, heroin and who knows what else, vomiting again, getting dead senselessly because of overdose. Oh, yea' that's all fun, nevertheless... I don't know who and what ACTUALY (emphasize: ACTUALY!) motivates these "Otpor" folks for what "they" stand for, but what I see is that it is obviously against Christianity... (its only reason) I mean - lets take these few obvious facts into consideration:
- ancient Rome was enslaving all around, then came Jesus Christ with his anti-roman resistance movement, the Roman forces of order arrested, tortured and killed him
- Christianity is the name of that Christ's movement for freedom and 'demokratia' (the self-rule of every culture instead of one culture (e.g. Rome) rulling multitude of other cultures - exploating them etc. (hegemony))
- Christianity tried to convert Rome from hegemony to democracy, but finaly it failed in 11th century, when Rome amputated a part of Christian body, centralised it (how in-the-spirit-of-Christianity) and called it Roman catholic church (the "Nail-'em-On-cross"-ianity satanic religion having a beast (Roman wolfess) as symbol, and a simple good-ol' rightangled cross to make threats like: "Submit to the Roman hegemony or end-up like this guy up here or worse.") with distinct characteristics of centralised hegemony (that same which killed Christ in the first place just because he was fighting for freedom of his people under Roman yoke). Ever since the real Christians (the non-Catholic/Catholic-descending (simply: official Latin writing)) were prosecuted and killed by Roman Catholic church (Teutonians were in charge against Russian Christians, and Templars provoked islam to come ("revanging") and crush the real Christianity in the so-called "Balkans"). So the fight of Rome (Roman-catholicism) against free (Christian) cultures is O.B.V.I.O.U.S.
- Roman hegemony (the whole Latin writing block) were always using peace times to slowly develope and manufacture always more efficient weapons (and they still do!) in order to kill the real Christians and others like the defenseless Mayans and other so-called "Indians" as they called them sarkasticaly; (they even fight among themselves); Russia couldn't produce so much weapons against the raging Roman 'beasts' (alusion on Roman wolfess that fed Romul who killed his twin brother, and so the whole thing is called by him (the one whose moter left him in the forest to mercy of wolfs, because she was a prostitute and child was not good for the bussiness)), and so that war created poverty in Russia - workers were angry; then came one mad-man (he died from some brain (nerve) illness) - Lenin; Prusians (Germany) gave him money to make anarchy in Russia so Germans could occupy its parts in that chaos (as they did soon after). Of course communism is not a natural thing (humans are hunter-gatherers - it is in their nature - they biologicaly (instinctivly) need to own) - it cannot work in practice (people in charge in communism are humans - with their weaknesess - often missusing their positions etc. (so nothing gets done, things get old and rusty and they are not replaced, and economy stagnates because they don't motivate people to invent new thigs and manufacture them) - but there wasn't communism before western world imported it thorouh violence and anarchy into Russia (and what did those western-imported commies do first - surprise, surprise!! - they first brought down and crushed Christian churches)).
- then (in these times (21st century)) some new pro-western organisations come into Christian lands (after communism is weakening (a coincidence rrrrrreally...)) and seek to usurp it yet again for goals of this new Roman hegemony - the so called European Union; and what do they use for excuse for such actions - well... they say "Look, poor living conditions. Communism is guilty." And I ask again: Who brought that ever-so-bad communism in those Christian lands in the first place.
- And they make social tensions, and make Slav peoples feel that they are against eachother (how diabolical - to turn a cousin into an enemy).
--- There's not much else to say, it is all obvious: 'OTPOR' leaders, maybe your members do not know, but we know what you're doing... Rome against Christianity - against democracy - so all the cultures are under one hegemony that Roman one ("western" one)...
--- 'Otpor' members (everywhere - Serbia, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia...) I don't know what they made you believe you are fighting for (and how... (having in mind the fact that they target young people, I guess they seek and count on impulsivness, lack of reason, knowledge, expirience etc.)), but the undoubtful truth (as seen from all this obvious evidence) is that in fact you are fighting against Christianity - I mean - you can't blame me, judging by all the evidence - that seems to be the only purpose, fighting for those same ones who killed Christ what's worse. Or maybe the whole purpose of communism was to suppress Slavs (by killing them in gulags or reducing number of children in their families by poverty) and boost other ethnic groups - which is perfidious and diabolic (unfair to say the least), and now the "Otpor" organisation is finishing the job...
That means you are in fact fighting against democracy (demokratia (which is the orthodox Christian term (as orthodox Christianity is a fussion between original anti-hegemonial philosophy of 'demokratia' some philosophers proposed, and the Christ's anti-Roman movement (so, also against hegemony)))). "Otpor" members, Rome hated Christ ever since the day he was born because he was fighting for freedom of cultures ruled by Roman hegemony, and now you are helping it kill him again.