Talk:Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists

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Was this the organization that rose against Poland during the Polish September Campaign, or were there others Ukrainian anti-Polish organizations at that time? Perhaps some pro-communist?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 15:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

There was a "Communist Party of Western Ukraine" - a NKVD backed structure that praised Soviets entering Halychyna. But it was hardly "Ukrainian" - only formally. Not sure about "September Campaign", never heard of :( Ukrained 18:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Operation Ohio

This piece of text was added anonymously and later removed. Is there any truth in this? Petri Krohn 02:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Operation Ohio was an assassination program which the U.S. Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC), U.S. Naval Intelligence, and U.S. Air Force Intelligence carried out through the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) during and after World War II. Control of OUN later passed to the CIA.

The source for the quote is namebase.org [1] The text refers to an article published in the Win Magazine (War Resisters League) in September 1975 on Operation Ohio.

Another reference: [2] Petri Krohn 07:40, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's pretty well documented that the CIA and MI6/SIS attempted to support/make use of nationalist resistance groups in the Soviet Union after WW2. Here's one hit from google books: [3] Most of these operations were complete failures. Apparently most of the Western files on this stuff are still sealed, probably because a lot of it would prove to be very embarassing, and most of the info is from KGB archives since the USSR dissolved. Some good books to check are:

• Peter Grose, Operation Rollback: America’s Secret War Behind the Iron Curtain (New York: Houghton Mifflin, 2000)
• Tom Bower, The Red Web: MI6 and the KGB Master Coup (London: Aurum Press, 1989)

cheers, heqs 01:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SUM promotion

The following poorly-written promo text has been added:

СУМ (Spilka Ukraïns'koï Molodi), or simply UYA (Ukrainian Youth Association), is the more predominantly nationalistic of the Ukrainian Youth Groups. It was established as a division of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) as a counter the Soviet pacification in Ukrainian after the rise of the bolshevik socialists. Its objective was to teach the Ukrainian youth of their true heritage, and to privately denounce the Russian communist tenets that were being forced upon them. It operated secretly under the authority of its founder, Mykola Pavlushkov and his associate, Serhij Yefremov. The Association was organized in groups of five (p'iatok) so as to keep from drawing attention to the undergound group. Should any member be caught, under this system, he would only be able to divulge the identities of the four other members in his group of five. Its motto, God and Ukraine (Boh e Ukraina) is a testament to the beliefs of the members of this organization, as well as its noble dedication to a greater good beyond themselves.

Today, the UYA operates both in Ukraine as well as what is known as the diaspora, which refers to countries outside of the motherland that have accepted Ukrainian immigrants. The UYA exists in Argentina, Canada, the United States, Germany, Australia, The United Kingdom, and other countries.

As one of the SUM members in Ukraine, I can assure anybody that this text is both underdeveloped and irrelevant here. If needed, feel free to make a separate NPOV article on SUM. Or rather SUMs since this organization in Ukraine is split in at least three parts. Given that, providing an external link to only one of the SUMs would be a real POV-pushing. So I just deleted it.

Instead, nobody cared :( to mention SUM-SVU trial or several other organizations more closely linked to OUN. Ukrained 09:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I just moved it as it had been added to Scouting in Ukraine, and doesn't really apply there. No offense meant. Chris 01:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

No offense were supposed either :). I was talking merely of a possible perception, not of your intentions anyway. Thanks for that contribution anyway. I'll make a separate article someday and get all needed ext links for it. Best wishes, Ukrained 10:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)