User talk:Ordinary Person

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[edit] User Page

My User Page is not very cool. Is there a page on Wikipedia with tips on improving one's User Page? Ordinary Person 14:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Practice makes perfect. :-) There is a program to get design help, at Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. Prodego talk 14:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thanks

Re your message: You're welcome. =) I'm not a bot (most of the bots have "bot" in the name), just an avid RC Patroller. -- Gogo Dodo 04:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mini Mammoths

Thank you for your excellent and diligent work in the Mini Mammoths page. Ordinary Person 04:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I can't keep reverting the vandalism all night as I have to go to bed at some point. --TheFarix (Talk) 04:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
What are the de facto rules with regard to reversion? Can I really anticipate being punished for reverting to correct vandalism more than three times in a 24 hour period? Ordinary Person 04:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Reverting vandalism is the only thing that is an exception to the WP:3RR. Just be sure that what you are reverting is vandalism. BTW, a semi-protection request has already been filed for this page. --TheFarix (Talk) 04:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:THanks

No problem. Its a shame to see such utter crap in the encyclopedia. Keep going like you are and I thin you will make a fantastic editor. ViridaeTalk 04:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsigned template

I think you might find this useful: {{unsigned}}. ViridaeTalk 10:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, probably. :-) Does it work pretty automatically? Got it sorted. Thanks. Ordinary Person 10:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

No probs. ViridaeTalk 10:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

And justly so, your adminship. Ordinary Person 05:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much, but I am not sure wether Quarl will still submit it considering I have only been here for three months. I am leaving it up to him to decide. That said, I am flattered that people think I am a worth contributor. Crossposted from my talk page ViridaeTalk 05:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article requests

I just piddle here and there. I can't keep up with it. But you're very industrious. :) Maurreen 08:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aged requests

I first would like to compliment you on some of the work you have been doing on the WP:AR1 page. I do have some interest in that page, I created it and do the updating. To answer your question, I would not consider the pages linked from a person's user page to be their project. In most cases those user pages are archives of projects long abandoned, other times they themselves might have made the requests. In my view, if a request has sat unfilled for over a year that is proof that no one is doing much work in that area. - SimonP 06:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article requests

Hi, just letting you know, if you had not noticed, I've been putting stubs and categories on all the blue links. It's a good idea to at least put a stub tag because if the deleters see it, and it looks too short, they will give it a Speedy Delete --meatclerk 07:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
Ordinary Person -- for extraordinary work on Wikipedia:Articles requested for more than a year -- Maurreen 06:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


Yes, it's a good thing. :) You are most welcome and deserving. WP even has a couple pages about barnstars and Wikipedia:Barnstars. Maurreen 08:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Western New Guinea

You wrote that: "The article makes some fairly serious claims about the Indonesian armed forces that really should be backed up by references or removed. To say that there are claims they are still committing genocide implies that there was a time when they definitely were committing genocide. I think I'll put up some "citation needed" tags for a while and if nothing comes through, I'll "be bold" in my editing of this piece. Ordinary Person 05:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)"

Although I scrupulously avoid any of the political aspects related to this article, and none of the text in question originated with me, I think as someone new to the issues involved, you might consider a bit more cautious approach to be well-advised. To wit: 1. The article did not say that genocide was or is being carried out, but rather that asylum seekers made that claim. Unless the newspapers in Australia are complicit in an anti-Indonesia conspiracy, this is a true statement. 2. There is a link in the External Links section to a paper by Yale University that concluded there is "evidence [of] a strong indication that the Indonesian Government has committed genocide against West Papuans".

I am decidedly agnostic on this issue (genocide), but at the very least your assertion that a reference is absent is not accurate. (I would agree with you and Konstable, however, that the article in general needs a lot more in the way of references inserted into the body of the text. (Btw, the link is apparently no longer correct; it has been removed from the Yale website and thus should be changed to http://www.westpapua.net/docs/papers/paper12/yale-wphr.pdf#search=%22west%20papua%20application%20of%20law%20of%20genocide%22.) The other material suggesting that the military has been involved in abuses is a matter of record; the Indonesian government itself acknowledges that these have occurred in the province.

There are strong feelings (on both sides) about the issues here, and presumably some people who know what they are talking about have contributed to the article. I would agree that the pro-Indonesian side is not fully articulated, but this is an open-source project so it only awaits someone who wishes to do that. Bottom line is please read the article carefully next time before asserting that the characterizations therein are insufficient. Cheers. Arjuna 09:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

OP, thanks for your helpful comments. I understand your point and I agree. Hopefully removing the word "still" solves the problem. Aloha. Arjuna 01:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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