Talk:Order of Australia

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Is there in Wikipedia a list of all awardees of the Order of Australia over the years ? -- PFHLai 18:59, 2005 August 29 (UTC)

Good question. Should we at least create the Category:Members of the Order of Australia category, similar to the one I created for the Order of Canada? --YUL89YYZ 16:53, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I certainly think such a category would be of use, there are many great recipients of the Order and it would be good to have some way to track them. Dpd 00:06, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, I've added it and have started populating it. --YUL89YYZ 00:48, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Is Category:Members of the Order of Australia not the same as Category:Recipients of the Order of Australia Medal? Both lists seem to have different people in them. Dpd 10:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] accuracy of article

It states in the article that the Order of Austrailia has been distributed more liberally than the Order of Canada but on the official website it states that only Australians may be nominated for this order. [1] Dowew 23:25, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I got an e-mail responce. Turns out there are different nomination forms for foreigners Dowew 00:38, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bunyip aristocracy

User Xtra removed the Bunyip aristocracy link from the See also section. I believe it is directly relevant as it is a catch phrase deriving from an 1853 speech in response to a proposal by Wentworth to introduce a NSW peerage system - a form of honours, albeit with titles not merely letters. As a result of that firm, early and popularly received response, I believe it took longer than it might have otherwise for Australian orders of recognition to be established. I have thus retored the link. --A Y Arktos 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Honours has nothing to do with peerage. Do not have anything to do with it in Australia. Do not have anything to do with it anywhere. Also, there is no mention of its relevance to the honours system on that bunyip page (I would argue that it would require a significant mention as the two articles have nothing to do with each other). Xtra 23:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

They are related concepts and the link to Bunyip Aristocracy should remain. --Centauri 00:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

How are they related? There is no evidence of this on either page. Xtra 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• Peerage is a form of honours - albeit hereditary - see the peerage article and British honours system. The term bunyip aristicracy was in relation to the introduction of peerage, an heridatry honours system. This article, or an umbrella article, could do with expansion to cover the history of honours in Australia, including formerly granting of British honours to Australians and past attempts to introduce Australian honours.--A Y Arktos 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

At the moment there is no relevance in the link, and unless some sourced relevance is in that article soon, I will remove it as irrelevant again. Xtra 00:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

relevance asserted in see also section - refs in the Bunyip aristocracy article--A Y Arktos 00:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but it appears to be a speculation based on original research to me. Xtra 00:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing speculative about it. It's demonstrably relevant to this article - end of story. --Centauri 03:52, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Posthumous award?

This article claims the Order of Australia cannot be awarded posthumously, but didn't Graham Kennedy get one this Australia Day? Colonel Mustard 23:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

It was given retrospectively. Xtra 02:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Not quite retrospectively. I checked with Government House and nominations can only be received for a living person. If the person dies after nomination, then the award can still be made. The date of the award is not affected. --Dlatimer 00:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the award was actually dated back to his death when I read the Herald Sun. Xtra 10:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

There is a website called itsanhonour where you can search for all recipients of all medals. For Graham Kennedy it says Name: KENNEDY, Graham Cyril; Award: Officer of the Order of Australia (AO); Date Received: 26 January 2006; State: NSW; Suburb: Late of Bowral; Postcode: 2576. --Dlatimer 12:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I received an email as follows about this matter: --Dlatimer 01:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mr Latimer

Your email querying the date of effect of the award for Mr Kennedy has
been sent to me for reply.  The award was announced on 26 January 2006
and the appointment is with effect from 5 May 2005.

I hope this clarifies the situation for you.

Yours sincerely 

Judith Shackley
Assistant Director
Australian Honours Secretariat

That was what I thought. Xtra 02:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)