Talk:Orange River

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[edit] Linking to main articles

Hi, When I have to refer to a subject that is covered by an existing article I have come to like using a short introduction to the subject and then refering to the main article in that introduction. Then I learnt how to use:

now I see it has been undone.. Please advise.. Gregorydavid 16:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crocodiles

Where did the information about the Orange River being too far South and therefore too cold in winter to support crocodiles? I'm rather dubious of this. The upper reaches of the river would certainly seem too cold to support crocodiles, but I find it difficult to believe that it is too cold for them in the lower reaches, such as the section that forms the border between South Africa and Namibia. After all, crocodiles thrive so well they are farmed commercialy hundreds of kilometres South of here in the southern Cape.

Beefart says: Crocodiles are indeed absent from the Orange River. Sad but true. I have swum in it from end to end and I wasn't eaten once! :) :) :).... Tables and diagrams at www.cites.org/common/cop/13/raw_props/NA-crocodile.pdf confirm that the reptile is not found in the Orange. It can be very cool on the lower reaches of the river in winter. Anyone who has spent a night at Vioolsdrif in August will testify to how nippy it can get. The best I can offer you is a likkewaan. My mother was chased by a likkewaan on the banks of the river in Upington but she escaped... I'd be interested to know whether the crocodiles being bred in the southern Cape are given a hot water bottle or a dop of brandy at night in winter. My research also shows that there is less salt in the Sout Rivier than there used to be, that the olifante have all fled from the Olifants Rivier and that there really never was a witch in the Hex River....Captainbeefart 01:58, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Good research, I've not been up to that part of the world. The crocodiles I saw in the southern Cape were near George and Oudtshoorn. I'm not sure how they spent the winter, but animals in captivity do have a wider tolerance range than those in the wild.

[edit] Renaming names and Politikal Korektniz

Why does Zaian consider my aside to be "gratuitous"? Is he suggesting that the renaming of the dams was not politically motivated? Or does he label as "political" (and delete) those remarks of which he does not approve? Why not go the whole hog and delete the (political) observation that the names of the dams were changed? Few would notice the omission. I don't really care what the dams are called. I don't worry too much that history in South Africa is being rewritten. It is human nature to do so. To the victor the spoils. (For what it is worth, I grew up in the time of Verwoerd and loathed the man). But I draw the line at trying to kid myself that it isn't happening... P.S. Somebody might add the new names. I don't know them.Captainbeefart 12:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I seem to stand accused of something. It seemed a pretty gratuitous link to me. PS The new names are already there in the previous sentence. Zaian 15:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)