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Contents 1 2 Days Shy 2 Notability and Title 3 Capitalization 4 Kyle MacDonald 5 Is the story real? 6 cheap fraud 7 References 8 It should be noted...

[edit] 2 Days Shy

It's 2 days shy of being exactly one year, strictly speaking.

[edit] Notability and Title

So, first I would like to apologize for creating this article under the wrong title("one red paperclip" as opposed to one red paperclip) and the failures that I had in trying to change that title. I'm new around here. Can I change the title? If so, how? I believe that the website is notable because: 1.I get the impression that it's a fairly popular website 2.It represents an attempt to cause a paradigm shift in terms of how we view value. I'm going to make edits along these longs momentarily KevinPuj 03:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

The webpage is actually called "one red paperclip". The title in the browser and the logo are uncapitalized. Do Wikipedia style rules overrule this? KevinPuj 22:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

No, they don't. I'll move it right now. ~ Oni Lukos _ct 12:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kyle MacDonald

Interestingly, I created an article on Mr MacDonald himself just the other day. They should probably be merged, though it's arguable whether the blog or the person is the notable feature of this phenomena. -- nae'blis _(talk) 21:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, there is repeating information on both pages and it would be best if we had the details on the one red paperclip project on this page. On the Kyle Page we could just mention his involvement and how he started the project or something? -Ablaze (talk) 13:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that articles should be merged. Both are clearly separate entities - Kyle MacDonald is likely to remain interesting outside the context of the 'one red paperclip' project.

-- I second your thought! Keep Kyle and One Red Paperclip separate. Kyle's got lots more ideas that have yet to manifest, separate from this project.

I've merged the pages. If and when MacDonald becomes otherwise notable, that article can be resurrected, but right now it's just a magnet for silliness by recent editing history. The clue is that there's almost nothing encyclopedic to say about him other than the swap project. --Dhartung | Talk 05:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is the story real?

-- Don't you think that the story is all or partially false? Can this be discusses as well in the article? Is it possible that he made more money with the google ads posted in Kyle Mac Donald's blog that with the so called "trade off"? Can these be linked to some other article describing mediatic stories made up for lucrative porpouses like showing publicity or selling merchandise?

-- Kyle hardly made any money from Google Ads - not even close to enough to live on. He would not have survived this past year if his girlfriend didn't help pay the bills, and if his employer didn't fly him to different work related trade shows so he could be closer to people to make the paperclip related trades with. - TW

-- I posted two links to two articles - one from the BBC and one from ABC. Well, on the Kyle MacDonald page. - Anonymous

-- Yes we can add also a link to NBC were they promoted other hoaxes, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7406483/ , obviously this is driven by profits made by publicity in the respective websites. I am not saying that wikipeadia should not have these entries but it should be discussed in full extend by rational people that try to be; even when traditional press is not being able to have the minimal criteria to distinguish fiction from reality. Any voluntary with more knowledge than me in other cases?

[edit] cheap fraud

how can one man get all kinds of attenoin because of a paper clip when there are starving and dieing every day this gives the message that if you do a cheap trick you will be rewarded but if you live a honest life and try to work for what you have you get scorned

No it doesn't. Cardboard boxA 17:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

There is something wrong with the references in this article.. They are marked in the text but non existent. Theups 16:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I restored the missing references section (it had been removed in an edit dated 01:50, 26 October 2006). -- Zyxw 19:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It should be noted...

...that this story was also printed in the Reader's Digest, although I'm not sure which issue. --208.127.64.67 06:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)