Talk:One-hit wonders in Canada
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How is one-hit wonder defined here? I can think of other songs by Helix, Five Man Electrical Band, Sugar Jones, and Change of Heart that were also hits, or at least well-known...actually I don't think I even know that Change of Heart song, while I have heard their "Little Kingdoms." Is it going by chart positions, or sales, or what? Adam Bishop 17:48, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I also find the title a little floosy. Maybe Music personalities with only one popular song? Not near as catchy, but... One hit wonder says that a "hit" must be in the Top 40. -- user:Zanimum
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[edit] Frontin' On Us
I'd question whether Frontin On Me was even a hit...
But seriously. Rymes with Orange had a subsequent hit (well-played radio song, at least) with "She's the One," so I'll remove their inclusion in the 90s section for "Memory Fade." Samaritan 00:02, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- They also had Toy Train, She Forgot To Laugh, and I Believe, all of which are still played on the radio (or at least, I have heard them on The Edge in Toronto and FM96 in London). Adam Bishop 00:42, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Nick Gilder, Canadian Idol and the definition of a hit
To the person who added a note under Nick Gilder's entry, citing "Roxy Roller" and "The Warrior" as other Gilder hits, "Roxy Roller" was by a band Nick Gilder fronted and does not count as a solo hit, and he doesn't get credited with a "hit" for merely writing "The Warrior", because he wasn't the credited performer. His article can mention that he wrote the song, sure, but we can't call the song his hit and say that it immunizes him against one-hit wonder status.
To the person who added Kalan Porter and Ryan Malcolm's second singles as their "one hits"... sorry, but their renditions of those icky Idol theme songs do count. So they're not one-hit wonders, either of 'em.
As for the discussion above: we have to remember that getting a song played on the radio is not automatically the same thing as having a hit, especially during the era when the CRTC required FM radio stations to play a significant percentage of "non-hit" songs. The definition is "charted in the Top 40 on a sales chart", not "got a song on the radio, but only three people ever actually bought the single in a store". Bearcat 05:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Whoever posted Change of Heart, the Rheostatics, the Inbreds and Sons of Freedom needs some serious help. The Inbreds never came close to a hit record despite 3 very good albuns. The Rheostatics have released about 15 albums, and are one of the most influentioal Canadian bands ever. Listen to Nautical Disaster or Gift Shop by the Tragically Hip and you can't help but here California Dreamline being co-opted. Sons of Freedom received as much or more airplay for Mona Lisa and the Criminal as they did for Your No Good, and Change of Heart received far more airplay for Herstory, Trigger, and Little Kingdoms than There You Go.----jeff@jeffsmusic.ca
- I can't speak to The Inbreds, but in all of the other cases the point remains: airplay does not, in and of itself, define a hit, and having a long and influential career doesn't make a band not a one-hit wonder if they only ever had one actual Top 40 hit. Rheostatics' "Claire", Change of Heart's "There You Go" and Sons of Freedom's "You're No Good" are each the only song by their respective bands ever to actually appear on a Top 40 chart. Bearcat 00:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Whose criteria?
So whose chart or criteria do we use?
Bearcat says "The definition is "charted in the Top 40 on a sales chart", not "got a song on the radio, but only three people ever actually bought the single in a store"." I don't see this def'n stated on the article page. If this is the case, why does the criteria differ from the US page, which uses only Billboard's Hot 100, which uses some sales/airplay/programming/ouija formula?
A small BTW: Patsy Gallant is listed here with "From New York to L.A."; however, on the Canadian charts for, say, April 1977, we see her song "Are You Ready For Love" peaking at #20: well within the definition of "Top 40". Now if this chart isn't reliable enough: she won the Juno award in 1978 for "Best-selling single" for the song "Sugar Daddy". I think she should be removed.
Again, then, my question: by whose criteria are we deciding who is a Canajun OHW? It might be nice if there were a brief note next to each entry explaining why it's there. SigPig 16:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
- Restricting the definition to "got a song in the sales charts" is the same criterion as the US page (using Billboard's Hot 100, after all, quite explicitly means "got a song in an actual documented pop chart".) How do you see it as different? Bearcat 00:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Chart info?
Is there a searchable chart anywhere on the net for Canada? RomeoVoid 06:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ambiguous areas
I removed some artists I added that I noticed had been previously removed (sorry about that). But I also removed some that I know have had other hits:
1. Kon Kan--they had other hits after "I Beg Your Pardon", such as "Harry Houdini" and "Liberty"
2. Tú (band)--they had a few videos and songs after "Stay With Me" including "I Used to Cry" and "The Language of Love"
Some artists I'm uncertain whether or not they qualify include:
1. After Ivan Doroschuk left Men Without Hats, he released one album under the name "Ivan" and he had one video, though I don't know if it even made the charts? If it did, would he qualify even if he was formerly in Men Without Hats?
2. Kish (rapper), who is listed, is widely regarded as a one-hit wonder. He did have a follow-up single called "She's a Flirt (Let's Do It)" but I don't know if it made the charts or even sold as it vanished quickly. I'm not sure, but his situation may be similar to Sugar Jones, who did have a follow-up single but it didn't do very well.
3. I know Nancy Martinez had one major hit across Canada with "For Tonight", but I don't know if any of her other singles charted. She may have charted again on some local or French charts but not nationally. So I don't know if she'd qualify or not.
I will leave it up for others more qualified than me to decide.
Banzaiboy 03:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
