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[edit] Omaha Population

If I'm not mistaken, the Omaha city population was listed as 390,007 in the 1970 census, not the 2000 census. Am I wrong? Equinox137 16:13, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

2000 census states population of 390,007. 2003 Current Population Survey states population of 378,815. Though the Census Population Finder lists the population as 404,267 -- though this may be for the Metro. In any event, perhaps we should correct the Demographics to reflect 2K3 census count as opposed to 2K... anyone, anyone... Bueller... --Mawhamba 17:46, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
The American Community Survey number excludes people living in institutions, dorms, and other group quarters; in addition, the 2003 ACS estimate is lower than the 2000-2002 estimates. As always, the only Census population count that truly means anything is the x0 census; the Census Bureau seems to be quite happy producing contradictory estimates in the interim. In my opinion, all the information in the Demographics section should use 2000 figures, since it's the only complete and reliable data set.
Also...if anyone can show me where the information that ranks the Omaha-CB metro as the 52nd largest in the US, I'd appreciate it. Everything I've read places it at 60th (the 2000 Census rank).
--Swid 23:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've read in places that it's 48th. Equinox137 16:25, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I checked the numbers and updated to show the 2004 Census estimate for the city population, which is 409,416, in the Template box and the lead paragraph. I have not checked the 800,000+ metro population for accuracy. I also recalculated the population density in the template box -- it was way off. The population stats in various parts of this article are somewhat in disarray -- the 2003 population history figure needs to be reviewed -- I changed the city figure to the 2003 Census estimate of 404,114 for now, but did not verify the metro population. Also, I left the Demographic section alone as that data should only use 2000 Census data. Frankly I wouldn't mind if the whole article stuck with the 2000 figures with only a brief mention of the 2004 estimate. Nick Storm 17:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

The most current population estimates are 409,419 in the city (which ranks it 43rd in the nation) and 807,305 for the Metropolitan Statistical Area (60th in the nation). I found these numbers here but I think you can find them anywhere.

[edit] FM radio station articles

It looks as if the links to the FM radio station articles point to the monikers. Somebody please change them to point to the callsigns. 66.245.124.50 03:44, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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But I don't know the stations' callsigns. 66.245.103.8 15:56, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I think I caught most of the stations and inserted the callsigns. Hot 107.7/97.3 is a toughie because 107.7 is a translator to 97.3 KBLR. Guess I'll go with KBLR as the callsign when I get around to it. I'll flesh out the rest of radio and TV too at some point. Nick Storm

Hi folks. I removed the old link for Omaha area radio stations and I added another one.

Do you think that adding a list of radio stations (maybe even television stations) to the article is a good idea?

KevinJ 01:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)KevinJ

Never mind, I saw that there were separate articles on radio and television.

KevinJ 01:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)KevinJ

[edit] Skyline Picture

I've posted a picture of the Omaha skyline at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Omaha_skyline_humid_day.png -- it's somewhat poor given that the day was fairly humid (fancy that).

--Mawhamba 16:49, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article Length

Does anyone else think this article's getting a bit lengthy? Any suggestions on how to go about diving it up -- I know the history section can get a lot longer, especially if one were to include information on Tom Dennison and his political machine. --Mawhamba 22:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Yup, many places for reduction, it seems the radio stations have gotten a bit out of hand. :) Perhaps breaking out a set of sub articles and summarizing on the main page is in order... NickVeys 05:15, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
The radio stations section and one or two others could warrant a sub-article of their own, I agree. I also personally think the list of law enforcement agencies is unnecessary -- one assumes that most incorporated municipalities have a police department and that most counties have a sheriff's department, no? The list doesn't supply much information over and above the fact that, yes, these counties and cities have law enforcement agencies just like most everywhere else in the U.S. Nick Storm 17:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I initiated the clean up of the article by eliminating most of the media section from the main article, and moving the items to separate sub-articles. --Mawhamba 10:11, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
Re: Law Enforcement, I was looking at the article for Los Angeles, California--as an example of an entry for a big city, the Omaha Article seems to have a lot of bulleted items which are, in my opinion, unnecessary. In regards to the Law Enforcement section, I believe this sentiment holds true. Perhaps we could modify the Law and Government section as follows:

[edit] Legal System

Might not need this sections -- what's unique about Omaha's legal system?

[edit] Sister Cites

Move from bottom of article here.

--Mawhamba 10:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More Cleanup Suggestions

Although this article contains a wealth of information about Omaha and the Omaha Metropolitan Area, perhaps that is, in-and-of itself a problem. This article is supposed to be about Omaha, Nebraska, not the Metropolitan Area. I think much of this article can be put into a separate article entitled "Omaha Metropolitan Area."

Additionally, much of the information contained within this article is simply bullets. Can we expand these lists into something that would make a good separate article. For example, the railroads section, under transport is well done, and could link to another article -- Railroad Tranport of Omaha, Nebraksa or perhaps Railroad History of Omaha, Nebraska--the section is not bulleted, though, as are many other sections (e.g. Famous People [is this section really needed, in full, in the main article?], Songs about Omaha [once again, really needed, in full?], Neighborhoods and Suburbs [could be mentioned briefly, but the meat, I would think, would go into the Omaha Metropolitan Area article]). There are numerous potential changes. I, however, do not want to start such a massive re-organization without consulting others first, though, as many people have contributed to this article and many people should have a say on its layout. --Mawhamba 10:36, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that is sorely needed for this article; fortunately, there's already an article that much of the Omaha metro information can be transferred into quite easily. I think the revamped articles should generally be along the lines of the Kansas City Metropolitan Area/Kansas City, Missouri division of information.
On a related note, the Omaha, Nebraska category *really* should be renamed Omaha, Nebraska metropolitan area (or something similar). --Swid 20:46, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Airports in the Omaha Metropolitan area

Is it really necessary to have a whole subsection simply for airports, or could we combine this all under Transportation? --Mawhamba 13:45, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Maybe a subsection under transportation will do since Omaha has three airports. Equinox137 4 July 2005 18:28 (UTC)

[edit] Pamida

An entry has been made under the Economy section of the Omaha, Nebraska article which needs to be cleared up. The case in point deals with suggesting that Pamida, a subsidiary of Green Bay, Wisconsin-based ShopKo Stores, Inc. Recently a reversion to a previous version of the Omaha, Neb. article was made, including Pamida as being "headquartered" in Omaha by Rdsmith4, with the justification that "Pamida was founded in Omaha and is an important part of its economic history." Regardless of whether Pamida was founded in Omaha, Nebraska or not (Pamida's history page suggests that the retail stores that were to eventually become Pamida, was opened, first, in Knoxville, Iowa -- see here), it is currently not headquartered in Omaha.

In any event, it is my opinion that Pamida needs to be listed elsewhere in this article. If Pamida was at one time headquarted in Omaha, that would be part of Omaha's history, it should not follow a statement such as, "Omaha is the home of the headquarters of a number of major corporations, including..." which is what precedes the listing of companies headquartered in Omaha. To me, and I would appreciate input on this, the statement "Omaha is the home of the headquarters of a number of major corporations, including..." suggests that the listed entities are presently headquartered in Omaha.

I would be open to the addition of another subsection listing companies founded and/or headquartered at one time in Omaha.

Anyone... anyone...

--Mawhamba 21:13, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Sure, put it in a different part of the article, but it certainly deserves a mention, having been founded by Rex Witherspoon, an Omaha resident "oracle", eccentric, namesake of Witherspoon Hall, etc. — Dan | Talk 21:43, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
Are there more companies, then, to stick in such a subsection? --Mawhamba 02:41, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Skyline Pic

Removed skyline pic posted by Ki-too as it may be a possible copyright violation. Image appears on Metropolitan Community College Website as well at http://www.mccneb.edu/presidentialsearch/images/Omahaphoto.jpg --Mawhamba 10:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject:Nebraska proposal

Would you like to help improve the quality of Nebraska-related articles? If so, reply on my talk page; I'd like to see if there is any interest in creating WikiProject:Nebraska. –Swid 16:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Omaha Sound Merger

I agree that this probably could be in the Omaha page as a Music in Omaha section (which then could spawn a daughter page) which would discuss things like Saddle Creek Records, 311, as well as the Rose Theatre, and Jazz on the Green. I always think the Omaha sound is an answer to the DC sound (Fugazi) or the Chapel Hill, an answer made by Saddle Creek artists (Cursive in particular), and it belongs there, not here (i mean not in any Omaha Sound page). Smmurphy 08:55, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear god please do not associate any of the unheard of and remarkably talentless bands listed in the "omaha sound" page with Omaha in general. They are awful and I hate to break it to people living outside of Omaha, but there is no such thing as an "omaha sound". I know the chip-on-the-shoulder-we're-a-big-city-too feeling many from Omaha have (I used to live there) but this is not the way to gain acceptance. -November 18. 2005.

I agree, they are non-notable. But that doesn't mean that there is not omaha scene, which could be discussed in greater length. Smmurphy 03:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
I've merged this article into Music of Nebraska, which already has a section called Omaha sound, and the article now redirects there. Smmurphy 01:43, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Schools

I removed Creighton Prep from the subsection on parochial schools; Prep is a Catholic Jesuit school completely autonomous from the Catholic Archdiocese. --Jose Bravo

[edit] Irish

What neighborhood of Omaha would be classified as an Irish neighborhood or as a neighborhood with a large Irish population? 75.3.4.54 00:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

If anywhere, it'd likely be in South Omaha. In any case, a large ethnic Irish neighborhood never developed in Omaha as it did for other ethnicities, as the era when Omaha grew rapidly was decades after the bulk of Irish immigration to the U.S. had already occured. – Swid (talk | edits) 00:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

That is surprising because so much of Omaha's population is Irish and the mayor is Irish. 75.3.4.54 00:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

German is the most common ancestry, followed by Irish. --Jack 06:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Climate

I changed some of the information in the Climate section of the article. I could not find a link to Omaha weather information, so I added the one I found. I'll look more into this and see if I can find a better site.

KevinJ 02:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)KevinJ

[edit] Largest US City

I believe that Sitka, Alaska is the largest city (by area) in the US, as it has over 2700 square miles of incorporated area. New York would be the largest city based on population. The first line of text should be removed.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.6.226.167 (talk • contribs) .

The first line of the article makes no such claim; it states that Omaha is the largest city in Nebraska, a fact that is easily verifiable. – Swid (talk | edits) 13:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
The first sentence reads, "Omaha is the largest city in the U.S. state of Nebraska." This is potentially confusing if you interpret the period at the end of U.S. as marking the end of the sentence; it then appears to say "Omaha is the largest city in the U.S." If the reader is not a native speaker of English, he or she may not realize that "state of Nebraska" is not a complete sentence on its own and is actually the last part of the first sentence. Maybe this could be reworded to avoid this confusion. —Bkell (talk) 23:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North O

"Predominantly an African-American neighborhood, North Omaha boasts a rich, diverse culture, and the highest crime rate."

Despite being a denizen of Omaha metro for a decade, I'm not sure I could identify anything "rich" about the culture of North Omaha. Do drug use and violence constitute a rich, diverse culture?

North O is the only neighborhood which receives this flowery attention. It's clearly not NPOV and it's not even accurate. Puskarm 18:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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