Talk:Old Trafford, Manchester
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M Johnson added a NPOV edit which I have deleted as the original author of this entry on Old Trafford. I would be happy to hear from M Johnson, through this discussion, what he feels is 'not neutral' about the article. The information contained within it is based on facts from the website of St. Bride's Church, Old Trafford, which is a long established CofE church and community centre in the area. Amendments and additions are based on my own knowledge of the area having grown up there and still owning a house in the area. M Johnson's other contributions to Wikipedia seem to have an Australian flavour so it intrigues me why an Australian would wish to profess greater knowledge of the area than a local inhabitant.
Mikeyboyproduct
I tend to agree with M Johnson. It's the tone rather than the facts - have a look through wikipedia for other examples of 'when you think of .......(old trafford etc). It's a device overused by minor regional journalists - have a watch of channel m or BBC north west. It takes the form 'when most people think of the pigeon fancying slot, they think of boring television, well not anymore!'
I accept this point about the tone and style and will gradually rewrite the article to adopt a more formal tone and support the various assertions with facts as and when I get hold of the evidence. MBP
[edit] Chinese Health Center
Is this a health center for Chinese people (use [[Han Chinese|Chinese]]), or a place that sells Chinese medicine (use [[Chinese medicine|Chinese]]? Thanks!--Ling.Nut 15:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
It's a Chinese medicine centre, not necessarily reflecting a significant Chinese population in O/T, but Manchester has the second highest Chinese population in the UK after London and some of that is reflected in the proliferation of centres such as this in various parts of the city. Also, I think the change of use of the building reflects wider societal changes, so I thought it worth mentioning. Thanks for your contribution. MBP
To the person who has recently made some edits: you are obviously an informed contributor so I've no intention of messing with your changes. However, a technical, if boring, point about Morrissey: he started life on Harper Street in Old Trafford and moved from there during the mid-60s when his family bought a house at Queens Square, Old Trafford. When this came up for demolition in 1969 his family moved to Kings Road, Stretford. The only point at which he could be said to have lived in Hulme was when he lived at Queens Square, which is so close to the Moss Side end of Hulme you could literally throw a stone into it from there. Some sources quote Queens Square as having been in Hulme but check the old maps, pre slum-clearances: it was in O/T! This is worth quibbling over because he spent his childhood in the kind of Victorian terraced houses made famous by Coronation Street and the iconography of his band, The Smiths. Some of the melancholy of their music could almost be said to be connected with a nostalgia for this lost world. People who want to make out that he grew up in Hulme have an axe to grind: go figure! Sure, Hulme was part of his childhood hinterland but if you want to be really pedantic he never actually lived there. There is a video on YouTube where he talks about all of this. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onEFbTS002U MBP
St. George's is part of Hulme, isn't it?
I've reinstated the original page because a whole chunk was vandalised, removed. The person who made the Morrissey amendment should feel free to make it again if you feel strongly about it. MBP
Old Trafford also had a small Turkish Cypriot population during the 1970s but I can't find much info about this on the web, stats etc. Anybody know? MBP
Under places of worship some wag put Football: Old Trafford, Sir Matt Busby Way so I removed it as vandalism. Enough already!
