Talk:Oil

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[edit] Macaroni Grill

I think that it is very interesting and delicious to dip bread into oil with various seasonings in it. This succulent appetizer is my fantasy before any formal event. You may find the seasonings in the Publics bakery, or at Italian restaurants like Macaroni Grill. ENJOY!!!

[edit] Oil (disambiguation) to Oil

See Talk:Oil (disambiguation)#Requested move --Philip Baird Shearer 20:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merging

I put the merge thing on the page, I really think it's nessecary. Black gold is just another name for oil, so why have it as a seperate article? - Linuxx 19:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Oppose - black gold is another name for Petroleum, not oil in general. I am not sure inhowfar the meaning coal is also relevant. Black gold (oil) should rather be made a redirect to petroleum. There is no new content on that page anyway. -- Ravn 23:13, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Black gold (oil) should redirect to Petroleum, not Oil. The term "black gold" is much closer to petroleum than the various types of oils such as olive oil. --A bit iffy 06:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Moved - I took off the merge thing on this page and put it on the Petroleum page, I also changed the thing on Black gold (oil) to be mreging it with Petroleum instead of this page, I also put my proposal on the talk page on the talk page of Petroleum Linuxx 17:38, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Moving types of oils to oil disambig ..."

I strongly disagree with this move for the following reasons:

  • Moving this information consists of a) removing information from this page and b) adding this information to a disambiguation page
  • Concerning a): This is the main page dealing with oil as a liquid. I can see no good reason to remove information dealing with various types of oils from this page.
  • People who want to read about oil will reach this page first, not the disambiguation page.
  • I also oppose b) - A disambiguation page is not intended to be a search index, but to disambiguate conceptually different articles dealing with a similar term. It is not intended to display (or even replace) a list of various subtypes of this term. Please compare WP:D.

I reverted a), but I did not revert b) yet, because I see more room for discussions there. ;) Please comment. -- Ravn 10:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem ... upon further review I tend to agree that the types of oils should be on the oil page, tet without it, the disambig is alost pointless. I'm even thinking that the Oils -> oils (disambig) redirect should be Oils -> oil as well. Still the cause of this was further down the line with confusion in vegtable oils and fuel oils and the data for biodiesel. So, make what changes you feel are needed. -- Dbroadwell 06:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I did not notice there was a redirect from Oils.. I changed that one. -- Ravn 09:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: "the disambig is almost pointless" -- Yes, it's not a big disambig, it just lists some articles that you could have looked for when you really did not mean the liquid. That's also why I would not list all the types of oil there. The disambig is more for the few non-liquid-oily articles out there. -- Ravn 10:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] definition

Oil, in a general sense, is a chemical compound that is not miscible with water, and is in a liquid state at ambient temperatures.

Does this mean that mercury is an oil? --Donar Reiskoffer 07:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

IIRC mercury dissolves in water - see also mercury poisoning and google. -- Ravn 09:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Oil does dissove in water abiat slowly, but it does diffuse through water.~random Ch E here.

[edit] Siccative Oil

Is the term "siccative oil" synonymous with "drying oil"? (please see wp article) The latter term refers to oils wideley used in the paint industry. Typically, the list of natural "drying oils" is limited to linseed, poppyseed, safflower, tung, and walnut. There are no doubt others, but the sentence in the article makes it appear more universal: The triglycerides in cooking oil tend to contain unsaturated fatty acid chains (siccative oil) ...

Or if the information is essentially correct, please expand and clarify. It would be interesting to know if all unsaturated fatty acid chains are in fact drying oils of one sort or another.

Hoopiefromwayback 00:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)