Talk:Octatonic scale
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[edit] Names
I was hearing about this scale on radio 3 today -- but they called it the Octotonic scale. -- Tarquin 19:30 Jan 29, 2003 (UTC)
- That's what I call it too, because "diminished scale" might be confused with the notes of the diminished seventh chord - I'll make octatonic a redirect. Incidentally, this scale is the same as Olivier Messian's second mode of limited transposition (something else I keep meaning to write about....) --Camembert
- Yeah, interesting, I've studied this stuff for years and I've never heard it called anything but the octatonic scale. Antandrus 03:30, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Harmonic implications
I've just added a new section - hopefully it's of some use to people. However, I'm not sure if it's particularly clear as I lack the language and terminology to explain my knowledge on the subject properly so apologies for that.--Giggidy 00:15, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Béla Bartók
Where should the paragraph on Béla Bartók's use of the octatonic scale go? Here (as with Riff) or at his article?
- In his Bagatelles, Improvisations, Fourth Quartet, Cantata Profana, and Improvisations the octatonic is used with the diatonic, whole tone, and other "abstract pitch formations" (Antokoletz 1984) all "entwined...in a very complex mixture. Bartók does use the octatonic collection exclusively in his "Diminished Fifth" (no.101, vol. 4, Mikrokosmos) and "Harvest Song" (no.33 of the Forty-Four Duos for two violins) and "in each piece, changes of motive and phrase correspond to changes from one of the three octatonic scales to another, and one can easily select a single central and referential form of 8-28 in the context of each complete piece." However, even his larger pieces also feature "sections that are intelligable as 'octatonic music'" (Wilson 1992, p.26-27)
Hyacinth 14:38, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Accidentals
The accidental figures added appear as question marks (?) from my computer. Hyacinth 16:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's probably because you don't have a font that includes them. Do they appear in Character Map? —Keenan Pepper 17:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Comment mistakenly added to article
This article concerns the symmetric octatonic scale, which is the only octatonic scale lacking 3-halftone clusters. However, many other octatonic scales can be designed. For instance, jazz bass players will sometimes insert an extra tone into a seven-tone scale so that in walking up the scale can land on the root at the start of each measure. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 35.11.210.175 (talk • contribs) .
